50+ Masters Training and Racing Open Forum

FIRST race in 10 months this morning...we, the Fightin' Fossils, set out after the event's longest standing record...the 60-69 one that has stood for 22 years...each of us got our jobs done and we erased the old standard by 35 seconds...personally I had a very good first outing after not having been able to get on a starting line since last April (my feet are ruined)...finished quite strong and in so doing, caught 4 teams in the final 1000 yards

Good week of training although abbreviated due to the caliber of the two track sessions and backing off for the race...so just 28 miles

First track session was 1200 sprint straight and run (not jog) turn at 5:29...then 400 at 88...then 1200 sprint straight/run turn in 5:09

Second track session was 2 x 300 w/100 recovery 1:14, 1:12, jog 400 , 600 at 2:18, jog 300, 2 x 300 w/ 100 jog at 1:06, 1:03

So, slowly making progress towards track racing condition...tad more tedious whist on the brink of age 62 and crippled ;}

Coyote, I too am distressed by the loss of our mutual pal, Jon Grey...and Ken Young who I have known a little bit since 1979...had been in touch with him as recently as 8-10 weeks ago...uggghhh

KP, solid 800...2:17, wow!

Igy, continued thoughts of wind at your back, brother

Everybody get/remain healthy...train don't strain...thanks for the continued encouragement and inspiration...catch you all next week.

Your pal,

MF

I love names like the "Fightin' Fossils.” Reminds me of the old HFC Striders.

Mike Long wrote:

I love names like the "Fightin' Fossils.” Reminds me of the old HFC Striders.

you mean HFC like 'hurtin' for certain'...the Jon Sinclair and company squad down in Ft Collins or????

best

MF

Coyote Montane wrote:

Another volume week (79 miles) with a 2X5K tempo on Tuesday and 4X 4 minute, 4X 1 min reps on Saturday.

Things are looking good for outstanding racing in 2018. When are you in the new age group, or are you already? It's gonna be fun to follow along.

amkelley wrote:

My heel was so sore that I could hardly walk Saturday afternoon, but after a couple of days completely off it started to feel better and quickly got pretty much back to the recent status quo (sore but manageable) ...

Thurs: 10.5 miles ...

Fri: 10.2 miles ...

Sat: 10.5 miles ...

Sun: 10.8 miles ...

Amazing how quickly you can bounce back to double-digit daily mileage. Right now, I would describe my own injuries as "sore but manageable," also. But that's how I spent much of last year, which wasn't much fun. Hope to do as well at you at getting the volume back.

MikeF wrote:

Mike Long wrote:

I love names like the "Fightin' Fossils.” Reminds me of the old HFC Striders.

you mean HFC like 'hurtin' for certain'...the Jon Sinclair and company squad down in Ft Collins or????

best

MF

That’s what it stood for, but this was a local branch. Great name.

Funny I don't recall her having a high heel kick in the Olympics Mike. Probably a good thing, the judges might not have liked it lol.

Greetings from SC where the daffodils are blooming and the trees are budding...perfect running before the heat/humidity arrive.

My week was uneventful except for the return of the nagging pain in my foot. I think a nerve or tendon is getting irritated when I run which makes pushing off painful. I can't run more than 4 days in a row or I'm limping more than running. I've got an ortho appt in early March to see what's going on. I did get in 36 miles running, 2:18 biking, and 1700 yds swimming so I did pretty well in spite of my foot. I'm at a conference this week so getting workouts in will be challenging. Maybe that will help it to heal.

Sun: 6.1 E, 1:10 biking intervals

Mon: 6.1 Hills

Tue: 1:08 biking

Wed: 7.1 Fartlek - 12 x 1H/1E

Thu: 6.3 E

Fri: 3.5 E

Sat: 6.3 with pickups, 1700 swim

Igy & LucKY - sending you both healing thoughts! Igy, glad to hear the prognosis is good.

MikeF - congratulations on your record breaking run!

Michael Rohl - Impressive run for your wife. Hope to see her at masters meets. Good race for you too - you sure were pushing it with those HR numbers.

MikeL & mo,pak - Thanks for the drug advice. The bone density issue was in my left hip (the same side as my broken ankle). My other density numbers improved. I think having no weight bearing on it for 3 months caused the problem. I'm sticking to exercise and nutrition for now and will see what happens on the next scan.

MikeF, likewise I'd been in email contact with Ken Young fairly recently. He did mention that he was looking for people to step in with the databases because of his age, but didn't expect this. And Jon Grey was such a shocker he had so much going for him.

Allen1959, this week! I got two big open races coming up and then 4-5 of USATF masters circuit events.

mo'pak, do you do a lot of sitting at work? My wife's hamstrings became much less painful by not having to sit so much during the workday (plus getting deep tissue massage to break up scar tissue that she'd had).

Last week was a good week, 31 miles and a track workout Tuesday with my wife, 10 x 300 and averaged 1:21, started slower and finished faster than average. Only a 7:15/mile average pace, but our first track session this year. She averaged 7:01 mile pace for 8 of them. We really felt it the next day!

Yesterday was long run day of 11 miles for me in 1:51, and 7 for her, my last mile was in 9:24 with a 20 mph tailwind, 50 degrees. And I didn't need a nap after, so was glad of that.

Healthy living and loving to all of you!

Usually up and about for all but 20 minutes of my shift Mike. But the issue flared during a stint of night shift where we often sit for a large % of the 11 hours. I had the same issue with the other leg in 2015 and guess what? Yep I was on nights then too.

Yesterday I was able to run slowly for 3 km without discomfort. I have been working on eccentric hammy strength for the last few weeks.

I read two interesting articles this morning, one on aging and the other on endurance training. I am not sure which is more interesting to people on this thread. So I have decided to post links to both of them.

The Surprising Secrets to Living Longer — And Better

http://time.com/5159852/the-surprising-secrets-to-living-longer-and-better/?xid=homepage&pcd=hp-magmod

How to train like the world's most successful female cross-country skier

https://medicalxpress.com/news/2018-02-world-successful-female-cross-country-skier.html

Here is my week.

M: off.

T: 3.5 miles / 6.5 miles.

W: 12 miles. (7th-11th miles @ 7:53-7:47-7:41-7:35-7:30)

R; 3.5 miles / 6.5 miles.

F: 9 miles.

SA: 7 miles.

SU: 16.7 miles. (last three miles @ 7:55-7:52-7:38)

I added 0.5 miles to both of my runs on Tuesday and Thursday, but only ran 16.7 on Sunday. So the total mileage is slightly lower than the previous week. Now two week taper for the first race of the year. (A half marahton.)

Mo Pak

Indeed Michelle did not have that high back kick in 2000. Before she racewalked she was a 2:09/4:20 mid distance runner.

SC Gal - she will be at some masters races - Spokane for certain.

In my 20s I often raced against our star walker Sally Pierson in running events. She was a 33 min 10 km runner and I would think around the 4.20 for 1500 ( my pb).

My little club has a young gun walker at the moment who is also a very good mid distance runner. Her big sister just clocked a 4.18 at Nats at age 20. I reckon younger sister will be as good a runner so not sure whether she sticks to the walks.

63 years old. Prostate Cancer, 2 surgeries on knee, colectomy, 6 spine epidurals in a 41 year running career.

300 miles of training this year so far.

Won the first road race of my life yesterday....

First year of a race that had only 50 runners.

Only a couple of them probably, actually had any sort of training program.

Looking forward to when they get all the kinks ironed out because I really believe in them.

It will be nice to get back to fighting for an age group award again....that will mean more runners will show up and want this group to succeed.

Thanks to them for even thinking about putting on the race and hope to see them again next year and hope Im not in the top 50.

Anyway, first road victory!!! Runner since 1977...ha

Robert E . Lee wrote:

63 years old. Prostate Cancer, 2 surgeries on knee, colectomy, 6 spine epidurals in a 41 year running career.

300 miles of training this year so far.

Won the first road race of my life yesterday....

First year of a race that had only 50 runners.

Only a couple of them probably, actually had any sort of training program.

Looking forward to when they get all the kinks ironed out because I really believe in them.

It will be nice to get back to fighting for an age group award again....that will mean more runners will show up and want this group to succeed.

Thanks to them for even thinking about putting on the race and hope to see them again next year and hope Im not in the top 50.

Anyway, first road victory!!! Runner since 1977...ha

Good job Robert.

Robert E . Lee wrote:

63 years old. Prostate Cancer, 2 surgeries on knee, colectomy, 6 spine epidurals in a 41 year running career.

300 miles of training this year so far.

Won the first road race of my life yesterday....

First year of a race that had only 50 runners.

Only a couple of them probably, actually had any sort of training program.

Looking forward to when they get all the kinks ironed out because I really believe in them.

It will be nice to get back to fighting for an age group award again....that will mean more runners will show up and want this group to succeed.

Thanks to them for even thinking about putting on the race and hope to see them again next year and hope Im not in the top 50.

Anyway, first road victory!!! Runner since 1977...ha

Robert,

How cool to get your first road race victory!

I've won the women's division of a number of small races, but I too got my first overall road-race victory in my 50s, about three years ago. But in my case there were only three other people in the race! I've also been a runner since about 1977...

In honor of our friend mo’pac enjoying a little Dire Straits this evening.

https://youtu.be/8Pa9x9fZBtY

Igy

Robert E . Lee wrote:

63 years old. Prostate Cancer, 2 surgeries on knee, colectomy, 6 spine epidurals in a 41 year running career.

300 miles of training this year so far.

Won the first road race of my life yesterday....

First year of a race that had only 50 runners.

Only a couple of them probably, actually had any sort of training program.

Looking forward to when they get all the kinks ironed out because I really believe in them.

It will be nice to get back to fighting for an age group award again....that will mean more runners will show up and want this group to succeed.

Thanks to them for even thinking about putting on the race and hope to see them again next year and hope Im not in the top 50.

Anyway, first road victory!!! Runner since 1977...ha

Most impressive! (btw, I like your call sign).

Curious: what type of knee surgeries did you have? (meniscus probably?). Any limitations with the knee? Any osteoarthritis developing or anything like that? I've haven't had any knee surgery but I have some mild OA developing in one knee that's starting to become a problem (late 50s here).

Completed my first treatment Friday. Only one issue, they gave me a Neulesta injectable patch and it shook off the first half mile of my Saturday run. Oncology pharmacist said in the past just added to the treatment regime but Amgen came up with this new improved product?. The pharmacist noted the happy people on the over promoted commercials was probably not me. He ordered me an injectable this time. Last treatment is June 8th. So turning a page from diagnosis to treatment.

16 miles walking and jogging last week. I plan to add some spin bike, core and weights next week. I am mapping out a plan to compete in the 800m at USATF Masters Outdoor late July. I think it is doable, and certainly good for the spirits in the meantime. Funny a marathoner mapping out a plan for the 800m.

Best to everyone.

Igy