This thread was deleted by a volunteer moderator. I certainly don't want a thread this big deleted so I've restored. THat being said, this thread has served it's purpose. I've closed it to new posts.
We have a new 2024 vaccine thread here. New people don't need to try to wade through 20,000 posts to figure out what is going on.
So much right wing misinformation and conspiracy theories on here. It’s sad
Such as?
Seymour Hersh's detailed investigative report on the Nordstream Pipeline explosion? (Spoiler Alert - We Did It).
Or The Columbia Journalism Review's takedown of the RussiaGate hoax by Jeff Gerth? (Yep. It Was a Hoax)
Or the truth about the Covid "vaccines" - in a study in Cell Host & Microbe co-authored by no other than Dr. Fauci himself? (They Failed, Indeed They Never Could Have Worked)
Or the Fascist connection between the US Surveillance State and Twitter beiing exposed in the Twitter Files by Musk?
So many choices about "right wing misinformation and conspiracy theories" that all just happen to be completely correct, that our vaxxer friends will never even be able to seriously consider, because of their religious faith in their gate keepers and fact checkers.
Seymour Hersh's detailed investigative report on the Nordstream Pipeline explosion? (Spoiler Alert - We Did It).
Or The Columbia Journalism Review's takedown of the RussiaGate hoax by Jeff Gerth? (Yep. It Was a Hoax)
Or the truth about the Covid "vaccines" - in a study in Cell Host & Microbe co-authored by no other than Dr. Fauci himself? (They Failed, Indeed They Never Could Have Worked)
Or the Fascist connection between the US Surveillance State and Twitter beiing exposed in the Twitter Files by Musk?
So many choices about "right wing misinformation and conspiracy theories" that all just happen to be completely correct, that our vaxxer friends will never even be able to seriously consider, because of their religious faith in their gate keepers and fact checkers.
1) Hersh has a theory... but hes an older and more senile man than Trump and Biden combined... pass
2) RussiaGate yawn... its 2023 bro.
3) Fauci writing a review (not a study) talking about how many respiratory vaccines fail to provide sterilizing immunity... is not saying the vaccines dont work. I already tried to discuss this with you.
4) Did you read the files? Nothing happened? It's Twitter? Like 15% of the US uses it...
"There is no evidence of such a huge death toll and COVID-19 particularly affected large cities where spikes in the mortality rate would be readily visible."
"For example, the estimates for Kenya equate to an increase of more than 50% from a baseline of 280 000 deaths annually and imply that a country with alert health services and a mandatory death registration system identified only 3% of COVID-19-related deaths."
"No regional estimates suggest such a high death toll."
A study1 by the COVID-19 Excess Mortality Collaborators estimates more than 18 million COVID-19 deaths globally by the end of 2021—three times those reported. The COVID-19 Excess Mortality Collaborators claim that under-ascer...
You mean I got away with not getting a Covid shot AND not getting a flu shot ?
How am I still alive ?
Lol, right? I mean, aren’t we supposed to have myocarditis or, at least, long Covid? Thank God for the control group.
Actually the risk of both is quite low. Kinda like driving home after too many beers. Yeah, you’ll probably make it, but everyone around you thinks you’re a moron for taking such a risk.
"There is no evidence of such a huge death toll and COVID-19 particularly affected large cities where spikes in the mortality rate would be readily visible."
"For example, the estimates for Kenya equate to an increase of more than 50% from a baseline of 280 000 deaths annually and imply that a country with alert health services and a mandatory death registration system identified only 3% of COVID-19-related deaths."
"No regional estimates suggest such a high death toll."
You mean I got away with not getting a Covid shot AND not getting a flu shot ?
How am I still alive ?
Don’t ask questions Dan. You have no interest in having an honest discussion about public health. Maybe that’s where you should start researching. ‘Public health’ as a concept. Every time you post all I read is about ME..and MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE. And why haven’t I gotten sick!? Vaccines aren’t about YOU it’s about the COMMUNITY.
You mean I got away with not getting a Covid shot AND not getting a flu shot ?
How am I still alive ?
Don’t ask questions Dan. You have no interest in having an honest discussion about public health. Maybe that’s where you should start researching. ‘Public health’ as a concept. Every time you post all I read is about ME..and MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE. And why haven’t I gotten sick!? Vaccines aren’t about YOU it’s about the COMMUNITY.
"Citizens cannot sue vaccine manufacturers – including Pfizer, Moderna, and Johnson & Johnson – for any harms resulting from the Covid shots."
"Americans bore costs related to producing the company’s products and purchasing the inventory of vaccines. In return, they faced mandates to take the mRNA shots, and they lost their right to hold commercial powers accountable for malfeasance."
"Scott Gottlieb resigned as Commissioner of the FDA in 2019 to join Pfizer’s Board of Directors, a position that pays $365,000 per year. Gottlieb went on to advocate for lockdowns and censorship during Covid, even encouraging Twitter to suppress pro-vaccine doctors who discussed natural immunity."
The industry dedicated billions of dollars to manipulating Americans into taking its products while their government stripped them of their right to legal action.
Don’t ask questions Dan. You have no interest in having an honest discussion about public health. Maybe that’s where you should start researching. ‘Public health’ as a concept. Every time you post all I read is about ME..and MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE. And why haven’t I gotten sick!? Vaccines aren’t about YOU it’s about the COMMUNITY.
"Citizens cannot sue vaccine manufacturers – including Pfizer, Moderna, and Johnson & Johnson – for any harms resulting from the Covid shots."
"Americans bore costs related to producing the company’s products and purchasing the inventory of vaccines. In return, they faced mandates to take the mRNA shots, and they lost their right to hold commercial powers accountable for malfeasance."
"Scott Gottlieb resigned as Commissioner of the FDA in 2019 to join Pfizer’s Board of Directors, a position that pays $365,000 per year. Gottlieb went on to advocate for lockdowns and censorship during Covid, even encouraging Twitter to suppress pro-vaccine doctors who discussed natural immunity."
Don’t ask questions Dan. You have no interest in having an honest discussion about public health. Maybe that’s where you should start researching. ‘Public health’ as a concept. Every time you post all I read is about ME..and MY PERSONAL EXPERIENCE. And why haven’t I gotten sick!? Vaccines aren’t about YOU it’s about the COMMUNITY.
"Citizens cannot sue vaccine manufacturers – including Pfizer, Moderna, and Johnson & Johnson – for any harms resulting from the Covid shots."
"Americans bore costs related to producing the company’s products and purchasing the inventory of vaccines. In return, they faced mandates to take the mRNA shots, and they lost their right to hold commercial powers accountable for malfeasance."
"Scott Gottlieb resigned as Commissioner of the FDA in 2019 to join Pfizer’s Board of Directors, a position that pays $365,000 per year. Gottlieb went on to advocate for lockdowns and censorship during Covid, even encouraging Twitter to suppress pro-vaccine doctors who discussed natural immunity."
I don’t spend much time in this thread so humor me..
have antvaxers moved the goalposts on myocarditis? Weren’t they claiming that the jab caused it and we were all doomed to get it because we are sheep and trusted big pharma? And they had YouTube proof to click on to prove it?
Now antivaxers are claiming vindication of some type because they haven’t gotten myocarditis themselves?
I don’t spend much time in this thread so humor me..
have antvaxers moved the goalposts on myocarditis? Weren’t they claiming that the jab caused it and we were all doomed to get it because we are sheep and trusted big pharma? And they had YouTube proof to click on to prove it?
Now antivaxers are claiming vindication of some type because they haven’t gotten myocarditis themselves?
is that where we are now?
(hard to keep up)
The entire last 2 years has been goalpost moving.
From"vaccines dont work" to "vaccines dont work as well as infection driven immunity" to "vaccines are killing people" to "vaccines have some side effects" to ....
I'm still amazed how we got to this point, where antivaxxers will clown on themselves as hard as needed to own the libs. Just think how it would have went if seatbelt laws were proposed in 2021:
YoU kNoW tHeY dOn'T pRoTeCt yOu FrOm aLl cRaShEs rIgHt???
cAr cOmPaNiEs cAn'T mAkE mE wEaR a SeAtBeLt, iT's uNcOnStiTuTiOnAl!!!
iF gOd wAnTeD uS tO wEaR sEaTbElTs, hE wOuLd hAvE mAdE uS sEaTbElTs
70% cAr CrAsH sUrViVaL rAtE bUt ThEy lIvE iN fEaR sHeEp
I'm still amazed how we got to this point, where antivaxxers will clown on themselves as hard as needed to own the libs. Just think how it would have went if seatbelt laws were proposed in 2021:
YoU kNoW tHeY dOn'T pRoTeCt yOu FrOm aLl cRaShEs rIgHt???
cAr cOmPaNiEs cAn'T mAkE mE wEaR a SeAtBeLt, iT's uNcOnStiTuTiOnAl!!!
iF gOd wAnTeD uS tO wEaR sEaTbElTs, hE wOuLd hAvE mAdE uS sEaTbElTs
70% cAr CrAsH sUrViVaL rAtE bUt ThEy lIvE iN fEaR sHeEp
"I would rather be thrown free of the accident" was actually a talking point back in the day.
Despite the face that people that are "thrown free" are many times more likely to die.
It's all just contrarian vibes and virtue signalling.
I don’t spend much time in this thread so humor me..
have antvaxers moved the goalposts on myocarditis? Weren’t they claiming that the jab caused it and we were all doomed to get it because we are sheep and trusted big pharma? And they had YouTube proof to click on to prove it?
Now antivaxers are claiming vindication of some type because they haven’t gotten myocarditis themselves?
is that where we are now?
(hard to keep up)
I certainly do not spend as much time here compared to a year or two ago. The moment to wrap things up is fast approaching. Johns Hopkins, even they are about to shut down their Covid data monitoring. After 789 days of "vaccine" madness, I know I made the correct decision to remain unvaccinated. Hope all of you are convinced you made the right decision for yourself.
70% cAr CrAsH sUrViVaL rAtE bUt ThEy lIvE iN fEaR sHeEp
After accounting for all excess deaths in the US in 2020, 2021 and 2022, did you know that on December 31, 2022, 99.62% of all Americans who should have been alive on that day were, in fact, alive ?
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