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3 years ago 10/23/2022 8:30pm EDT

re: Lollys Master

Lollys Master wrote:
Saudi Arabia joining BRICS in 2023. I wonder what will happen to the US when 40% of worlds population stops using Dollar.
Either US Economy crashes completely or NATO begins a war against BRICS to protect Dollar. Either way big things are coming in the nearest future.
Link:news.bitcoin.com/robert-kiyosaki-says-...

If there was ever any doubt that Lolly Is nothing but Carmine-brained conspiracy loon with a bizarre hatred for America, this crazed prediction seals the deal. It's now NATO v. BRICS in The Great Dollar War. The US will invade Brazil any day now! We have no choice!

3 years ago 10/23/2022 8:56pm EDT

re: Lolly The Liar

My daughter is in Geneva right now. Around lunchtime today walking down street and 4 girls around 20 (not migrants) surrounded her and demanded the food she was eating.

3 years ago 10/23/2022 10:30pm EDT

re: Lollys Master

Lollys Master wrote:
Absolutely right. This is also the only reason why Western media escalated this 8 year old conflict in Donbas to worldwide levels. Need to unify the West to "stick it" to Russia, because strong BRICS would mean the end of Dollar.
9 step US scheme that has been used for decades now:
[ Merely dumb stuff deleted]
5) CIA sharp shooters shoot at both the protesters and army/police.
[More merely dumb stuff deleted]
Since CIA can't just up and kill Putin, the US has to ruin Russia financially to significantly weaken BRICS. Pelosi flying to Taiwan is also a sign to China, that they're next, so don't even think about that new BRICS currency. I wonder how long now untill Mohammed bin Salman will be declared a terrorist?

This is some tinfoil-hat level thinking. All that unrest around the world - it was the CIA sharpshooters all along, casually shooting at both sides! I'd trust a Tarot reader or the movements of a Ouija board more than this nonsense.

3 years ago 10/24/2022 12:18am EDT

re: still bothered

still bothered wrote:
SeattleSilver wrote:
We are in agreement on one thing - we can't believe you did either.
I love how you don't deny being a warmonger ;)
But yeah, limousine libs sense that they're in power now, so the mask of being the "kind" side of the political spectrum has slipped off. Libs are bloodthirsty savages, who put on airs of "niceness"

It would be easier to label us as the warmongers if Russian hadn't proved early on that their Special Operation involved murder and rape of civilians, theft, and kidnapping. So we are just cheering for the side trying to protect themselves from murder, rape, theft and kidnapping.

3 years ago 10/24/2022 12:34am EDT

re: my 2c

my 2c wrote:
Lollys Master wrote:
Absolutely right. This is also the only reason why Western media escalated this 8 year old conflict in Donbas to worldwide levels. Need to unify the West to "stick it" to Russia, because strong BRICS would mean the end of Dollar.
9 step US scheme that has been used for decades now:
[ Merely dumb stuff deleted]
5) CIA sharp shooters shoot at both the protesters and army/police.
[More merely dumb stuff deleted]
Since CIA can't just up and kill Putin, the US has to ruin Russia financially to significantly weaken BRICS. Pelosi flying to Taiwan is also a sign to China, that they're next, so don't even think about that new BRICS currency. I wonder how long now untill Mohammed bin Salman will be declared a terrorist?
This is some tinfoil-hat level thinking. All that unrest around the world - it was the CIA sharpshooters all along, casually shooting at both sides! I'd trust a Tarot reader or the movements of a Ouija board more than this nonsense.

I think he flipped his lid when it finally dawned on him that Russia is now retreating from Kherson. He's spinning out of control now, tossing out every whacked theory he can type; CIA, Pelosi, BRICS, dollars, Mohammeds. Wingo dingo.

At least we now know he also posts as Heartless, a handle he previously used only for conspiracies and wishful thinking related to BRICS.

3 years ago 10/24/2022 3:54am EDT

re: Colin Bombo Harris

Good lord. For those, seemingly not understanding fundamental economics, I pose these questions:

1) What is USD backed by?

2) What happens to an asset, once it loses at least 25% of it's demand?

3 years ago 10/24/2022 4:13am EDT

re: CarminesDaddy

CarminesDaddy wrote:
You think somebody earning CHF 30,000 per year is going to buy a house in the middle of Geneva? How about rent an apartment? There are plenty of places in the US where somebody earning $12,000 per year could do both. Shockingly, this agrees with what I said - that trying to put a single number on the poverty line for the whole US - and then trying to compare it to Switzerland is something only a wanna-be ETH graduate would say.

So there it is, you admitting that there are many parts in the US where people live like in a 3rd world sh*thole and will do ok with 12.000$

I would recommend 30.000$ in Geneva over 12.000 in Wichita, Kansas or 1000$ in Cambodia any day. Apparently to you all three are the same.

By the way, prices for appartments in Kanton Genf and Wichita, Kansas both start at 500$.

3 years ago 10/24/2022 6:21am EDT

re: Lollys Master

Lollys Master wrote:
CarminesDaddy wrote:
You think somebody earning CHF 30,000 per year is going to buy a house in the middle of Geneva? How about rent an apartment? There are plenty of places in the US where somebody earning $12,000 per year could do both. Shockingly, this agrees with what I said - that trying to put a single number on the poverty line for the whole US - and then trying to compare it to Switzerland is something only a wanna-be ETH graduate would say.
So there it is, you admitting that there are many parts in the US where people live like in a 3rd world sh*thole and will do ok with 12.000$
I would recommend 30.000$ in Geneva over 12.000 in Wichita, Kansas or 1000$ in Cambodia any day. Apparently to you all three are the same.
By the way, prices for appartments in Kanton Genf and Wichita, Kansas both start at 500$.

You’re really having a hard time with Russia getting routed in Ukraine.

p.s. Now try to find a $500 per month apartment in the City of Geneva, not Kanton Genf.

p.p.s There you are admitting that the best city in Switzerland is equivalent to Witchita, Kansas.

3 years ago 10/24/2022 6:27am EDT

re: my 2c

my 2c wrote:
Lollys Master wrote:
Absolutely right. This is also the only reason why Western media escalated this 8 year old conflict in Donbas to worldwide levels. Need to unify the West to "stick it" to Russia, because strong BRICS would mean the end of Dollar.
9 step US scheme that has been used for decades now:
[ Merely dumb stuff deleted]
5) CIA sharp shooters shoot at both the protesters and army/police.
[More merely dumb stuff deleted]
Since CIA can't just up and kill Putin, the US has to ruin Russia financially to significantly weaken BRICS. Pelosi flying to Taiwan is also a sign to China, that they're next, so don't even think about that new BRICS currency. I wonder how long now untill Mohammed bin Salman will be declared a terrorist?
This is some tinfoil-hat level thinking. All that unrest around the world - it was the CIA sharpshooters all along, casually shooting at both sides! I'd trust a Tarot reader or the movements of a Ouija board more than this nonsense.

They got you

3 years ago 10/24/2022 6:41am EDT

re: CarminesDaddy

CarminesDaddy wrote:
Lollys Master wrote:
So there it is, you admitting that there are many parts in the US where people live like in a 3rd world sh*thole and will do ok with 12.000$
I would recommend 30.000$ in Geneva over 12.000 in Wichita, Kansas or 1000$ in Cambodia any day. Apparently to you all three are the same.
By the way, prices for appartments in Kanton Genf and Wichita, Kansas both start at 500$.
p.p.s There you are admitting that the best city in Switzerland is equivalent to Witchita, Kansas.

Says all we need to know about this guy

3 years ago 10/24/2022 7:02am EDT

re: carmine9

carmine9 wrote:
CarminesDaddy wrote:
p.p.s There you are admitting that the best city in Switzerland is equivalent to Witchita, Kansas.
Says all we need to know about this guy

Hey Carmine! Did you figure out how to read tables on Wikipedia yet?

3 years ago 10/24/2022 7:12am EDT

re: CarminesDaddy

CarminesDaddy wrote:
Lollys Master wrote:
So there it is, you admitting that there are many parts in the US where people live like in a 3rd world sh*thole and will do ok with 12.000$
I would recommend 30.000$ in Geneva over 12.000 in Wichita, Kansas or 1000$ in Cambodia any day. Apparently to you all three are the same.
By the way, prices for appartments in Kanton Genf and Wichita, Kansas both start at 500$.
You’re really having a hard time with Russia getting routed in Ukraine.
p.s. Now try to find a $500 per month apartment in the City of Geneva, not Kanton Genf.
p.p.s There you are admitting that the best city in Switzerland is equivalent to Witchita, Kansas.

I am absolutely at peace, knowing Donbas doesn't have to endure Kiev bandits in law anymore.

I'm also admitting that people live incomparably better in Genf (and Kanton Genf) than in
Wichita, Kansas. Fact is, that Switzerland is small, safe and has a very high standard of living all over. The US is large, unsafe and has many parts where people live that 3rd world life. Now that we're clear on this matter, let's get back to the reasons, why the US needs to win in Ukraine so desperately:

1) What is USD backed by?
2) What happens to an asset once it loses at least 25% of it's demand?

3 years ago 10/24/2022 7:18am EDT

re: Lollys Master

Lollys Master wrote:
CarminesDaddy wrote:
You’re really having a hard time with Russia getting routed in Ukraine.
p.s. Now try to find a $500 per month apartment in the City of Geneva, not Kanton Genf.
p.p.s There you are admitting that the best city in Switzerland is equivalent to Witchita, Kansas.
I am absolutely at peace, knowing Donbas doesn't have to endure Kiev bandits in law anymore.
I'm also admitting that people live incomparably better in Genf (and Kanton Genf) than in
Wichita, Kansas. Fact is, that Switzerland is small, safe and has a very high standard of living all over. The US is large, unsafe and has many parts where people live that 3rd world life. Now that we're clear on this matter, let's get back to the reasons, why the US needs to win in Ukraine so desperately:
1) What is USD backed by?
2) What happens to an asset once it loses at least 25% of its demand?

I’m glad you’re happy in Switzerland. I’ve been there. It’s not on my list of places to go back to. As you said, it’s basically equivalent to Witchita, Kansas.

1. The USD is backed by “the full faith and trust in the government that issued it”.
2. Depends on its price elasticity.

3 years ago 10/24/2022 7:38am EDT

re: Lollys Master

Lollys Master wrote:
CarminesDaddy wrote:
I know numbers are hard Carmine, but you take stupidity to a whole new level. From YOUR link:
“The percentage of the population living below national poverty line (%):
Switzerland
Source 1 - 15.5% in 2019
Source 2 - 16.0% in 2018
Source 3 - 8.5% in 2020”
So, yeah so my claim of 10% seems WAY off. You’re such a f*cking idiot.
Swiss poverty line for a single person is 30.000 CHF which is worth a bit more than 30.000 USD. In the US it is 12.000 USD.

The numbers are a joke.

Not only for the reason you note but --

From 15.5% in 2019 to 8.5% in 2020? How did that happen?

3 years ago 10/24/2022 7:43am EDT

re: carmine9

carmine9 wrote:
Lollys Master wrote:
Swiss poverty line for a single person is 30.000 CHF which is worth a bit more than 30.000 USD. In the US it is 12.000 USD.
The numbers are a joke.
Not only for the reason you note but --
From 15.5% in 2019 to 8.5% in 2020? How did that happen?

They come from different sources, which calculate the poverty level using different approaches (either by setting a different value for the poverty level for different sizes of family, and/or by using different survey / statistical techniques to estimate the number of people below the poverty level that they've established). Again, learn how to read a f*cking table.

3 years ago 10/24/2022 7:47am EDT

re: carmine9

carmine9 wrote:
Lollys Master wrote:
Swiss poverty line for a single person is 30.000 CHF which is worth a bit more than 30.000 USD. In the US it is 12.000 USD.
The numbers are a joke.
Not only for the reason you note but --
From 15.5% in 2019 to 8.5% in 2020? How did that happen?

Let's look at the % of daily income < $5.50m per wikipedia and then their living in poverty %s.

Albania 38.4% < $5.50. Living in poverty (per CIA -- 2021) 14.3%

Switzerland 0.14% < $5.50. Living in poverty (per CIA -- 2018) 16.0%.

See any problem with these #s?

Also, why is the CIA the source for living in poverty data?

3 years ago 10/24/2022 7:47am EDT

re: Lolly The Liar

Lolly The Liar wrote:
carmine9 wrote:
The numbers are a joke.
Not only for the reason you note but --
From 15.5% in 2019 to 8.5% in 2020? How did that happen?
They come from different sources, which calculate the poverty level using different approaches (either by setting a different value for the poverty level for different sizes of family, and/or by using different survey / statistical techniques to estimate the number of people below the poverty level that they've established). Again, learn how to read a f*cking table.

And, again, you are the one that posted this source to refute my claim that "Something like 10% of Swiss people live in poverty." Which is manifestly true, even if you quibble over the exact numbers in the table you provided. So, just accept that you were wrong (as you usually are) and move on.

3 years ago 10/24/2022 7:49am EDT

re: carmine9

carmine9 wrote:
carmine9 wrote:
The numbers are a joke.
Not only for the reason you note but --
From 15.5% in 2019 to 8.5% in 2020? How did that happen?
Let's look at the % of daily income < $5.50m per wikipedia and then their living in poverty %s.
Albania 38.4% < $5.50. Living in poverty (per CIA -- 2021) 14.3%
Switzerland 0.14% < $5.50. Living in poverty (per CIA -- 2018) 16.0%.
See any problem with these #s?
Also, why is the CIA the source for living in poverty data?

Most people are aware that the cost of living can be different between different places. You seem entirely unaware of this concept.

3 years ago 10/24/2022 8:05am EDT

re: Lolly The Liar

Lolly The Liar wrote:
Lolly The Liar wrote:
They come from different sources, which calculate the poverty level using different approaches (either by setting a different value for the poverty level for different sizes of family, and/or by using different survey / statistical techniques to estimate the number of people below the poverty level that they've established). Again, learn how to read a f*cking table.
And, again, you are the one that posted this source to refute my claim that "Something like 10% of Swiss people live in poverty." Which is manifestly true, even if you quibble over the exact numbers in the table you provided. So, just accept that you were wrong (as you usually are) and move on.

Manifestly true? Not just true?

Let's look at the % of daily income < $5.50m per wikipedia and then their living in poverty %s.

Albania 38.4% < $5.50. Living in poverty (per CIA -- 2021) 14.3%

Switzerland 0.14% < $5.50. Living in poverty (per CIA -- 2018) 16.0%.

See any problem in consistency with these #s?

Nearly 250 times as many Albanians make less than $5.50 per capita than do Swiss people.

Yet Switzerland has higher poverty rate?

How can these #s be legit

3 years ago 10/24/2022 8:07am EDT

re: carmine9

carmine9 wrote:
Lolly The Liar wrote:
And, again, you are the one that posted this source to refute my claim that "Something like 10% of Swiss people live in poverty." Which is manifestly true, even if you quibble over the exact numbers in the table you provided. So, just accept that you were wrong (as you usually are) and move on.
Manifestly true? Not just true?
Let's look at the % of daily income < $5.50m per wikipedia and then their living in poverty %s.
Albania 38.4% < $5.50. Living in poverty (per CIA -- 2021) 14.3%
Switzerland 0.14% < $5.50. Living in poverty (per CIA -- 2018) 16.0%.
See any problem in consistency with these #s?
Nearly 250 times as many Albanians make less than $5.50 per capita than do Swiss people.
Yet Switzerland has higher poverty rate?
How can these #s be legit

Do you think the cost of living is the same in Albania and in Switzerland?

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