Official Russia vs Ukraine War Thread

Lollys Master wrote:

SeattleSilver wrote:

That makes no sense. Why would American's feelings about 9/11 give them an understanding of how Russians feel. Russians haven't been attacked. They are pretending to be afraid of NATO missiles in Ukraine -- missiles that don't exist.

You probably haven't heard of the Kerch Bridge attack yet? Crimea bridge has been exploded.

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:

european1 wrote:

YM

My God, only americans can believe this. It was clearly a criminal act, as all elementary school kids around the world -but americans- know.

A bunch of stupid people agreeing doesn't make something true.

The bombs removed the need for the invasion.

The invasion would have killed more than 20x as many people as the bombs did.

Don't be a fool.

european1 wrote:

european1s

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:

A bunch of stupid people agreeing doesn't make something true.

The bombs removed the need for the invasion.

The invasion would have killed more than 20x as many people as the bombs did.

Don't be a fool.

Sophisms to justify a crime, based on unproven hypothesis

SeattleSilver wrote:

Lollys Master wrote:

You probably haven't heard of the Kerch Bridge attack yet? Crimea bridge has been exploded.

Not by NATO missiles, and only in the context of a war Russia started. How many NATO or Ukrainian soldiers carried out that mission? Zero.

Lollys Master wrote:

SeattleSilver wrote:

Not by NATO missiles, and only in the context of a war Russia started. How many NATO or Ukrainian soldiers carried out that mission? Zero.

Oh boy. How many Afghanistan soldiers carried out 9/11 attacks?

SeattleSilver wrote:

Afghanistan was harboring the AQ. Moreover, I was responding to your comparison of how Americans felt about being attacked on their own soil when not at war with how Russians arguably felt about hypothetical missiles in a neighboring country. Your comparison failed, so you moved the goalposts.

Lollys Master wrote:

SeattleSilver wrote:

Afghanistan was harboring the AQ. Moreover, I was responding to your comparison of how Americans felt about being attacked on their own soil when not at war with how Russians arguably felt about hypothetical missiles in a neighboring country. Your comparison failed, so you moved the goalposts.

Is it why the US killed 200.000 Afghani?

Terrorists where Saudi and Egyptian, btw.

The comparison was made by YOU, that's why it fails. My statement was referring to Russians feeling about Kerch Bridge the same way Americans felt about twin towers. A monument of power being hit by terrorists.

Lollys Master wrote:

SeattleSilver wrote:

Afghanistan was harboring the AQ. Moreover, I was responding to your comparison of how Americans felt about being attacked on their own soil when not at war with how Russians arguably felt about hypothetical missiles in a neighboring country. Your comparison failed, so you moved the goalposts.

Is it why the US killed 200.000 Afghani?

Terrorists where Saudi and Egyptian, btw.

The comparison was made by YOU, that's why it fails. My statement was referring to Russians feeling about Kerch Bridge the same way Americans felt about twin towers. A monument of power being hit by terrorists.

Real Obvi wrote:

Russia invaded Ukraine.

Russia has been targeting civilians and civilian infrastructure all along.

Russia has been committing genocide in Russia occupied Ukraine all along.

And Russians have the gall to call a counterattack on a bridge "terrorism"?!?

Seriously, WTF is wrong with you?

TheAdultInTheRoom wrote:

european1 wrote:

european1s

Sophisms to justify a crime, based on unproven hypothesis

The Japanese literally killed more children with bayonets in China than were killed in the a-bombings.

Ending a war with the least amount of bloodshed possible isn't a "crime" you ignorant pig.

You need to pump the brakes on your emotional righteous indignation and crack a f'ing book.

Real Obvi wrote:

Russia invaded Ukraine.

Russia has been targeting civilians and civilian infrastructure all along.

Russia has been committing genocide in Russia occupied Ukraine all along.

And Russians have the gall to call a counterattack on a bridge "terrorism"?!?

Seriously, WTF is wrong with you?

Lollys Master wrote:

SeattleSilver wrote:

Afghanistan was harboring the AQ. Moreover, I was responding to your comparison of how Americans felt about being attacked on their own soil when not at war with how Russians arguably felt about hypothetical missiles in a neighboring country. Your comparison failed, so you moved the goalposts.

Is it why the US killed 200.000 Afghani?

Terrorists where Saudi and Egyptian, btw.

The comparison was made by YOU, that's why it fails. My statement was referring to Russians feeling about Kerch Bridge the same way Americans felt about twin towers. A monument of power being hit by terrorists.

Russia is t Future wrote:

Real Obvi wrote:

Russia invaded Ukraine.

Russia has been targeting civilians and civilian infrastructure all along.

Russia has been committing genocide in Russia occupied Ukraine all along.

And Russians have the gall to call a counterattack on a bridge "terrorism"?!?

Seriously, WTF is wrong with you?

The only genocide is from the US imposed 2014 Kiev Nazi coup, genociding of Russians inside the Ukraine, and refusal to admit to let the Donbas region become a separate state despite them having managed to defend themselves from the Nazis for 8 years.

All the Ukraine's "victories," other than retaking areas that Russia isn't defending, amount to terrorism: murdering a Russian philosopher's daughter with a car bomb, blowing up a civilian bridge (so proud of it, they issued new postage stamps next day), shooting up a training camp inside Russia. Hail the great "heroes" of Urakine.

HotToTellLollyIsLying wrote:

You're comparing an explosion on a bridge Russia built to an peninsula they illegally annexed and then used as a vital supply route for their military while invading another country that resulted in 3 deaths and an attack on civilians in an office building that killed nearly 3,000? And you expect people to take you seriously? Hell. Russia killed more Russians this morning by flying a jet into an apartment building than died in the Kerch Strait Bridge explosion.

Russia is t Future wrote:

The only genocide is from the US imposed 2014 Kiev Nazi coup, genociding of Russians inside the Ukraine, and refusal to admit to let the Donbas region become a separate state despite them having managed to defend themselves from the Nazis for 8 years.

All the Ukraine's "victories," other than retaking areas that Russia isn't defending, amount to terrorism: murdering a Russian philosopher's daughter with a car bomb, blowing up a civilian bridge (so proud of it, they issued new postage stamps next day), shooting up a training camp inside Russia. Hail the great "heroes" of Urakine.

Lollys Master wrote:

Real Obvi wrote:

Russia invaded Ukraine.

Russia has been targeting civilians and civilian infrastructure all along.

Russia has been committing genocide in Russia occupied Ukraine all along.

And Russians have the gall to call a counterattack on a bridge "terrorism"?!?

Seriously, WTF is wrong with you?

Go back and read 400 pages of this thread untill you catch up. Regurgitating basic Western media is not gonna cut it for a discussion. I will waste no time explaining things to you that have been explained many times over.

If this is all you know about Ukraine-Russia-NATO conflict then you're just not ready for this thread.

Lollys Master wrote:

Well, the US illegally annexed the land from Native Americans, yet that doesn't seem to bother anyone. Just let 200 years pass and everybody will shrug the shoulders about Crimea and Donbas, like they shrug now about the US.

I'm also tired of repeating the same thing. Crimea is not Russian because Russia says so. It is Russian, because the vast majority of the population there are ethnic Russians and say so. Crimea is much more Russian than Hawaii is American.

By the way, having nearly 3000 killed still doesn't justify killing more than 200.000 Afgani. If it does to you, then don't complain about Russia bombing Ukraine for Kerch bridge.