Unknown(?) Local Runner Claiming to be Shooting for US Woman's 10 Mile Road Record

first off, awesome for Kristen. but really? you're upset about the negativity of this thread? Shame on all of us for even humoring the morons who put on this hoax, but it was so upsetting to see some hobby joggers pretending to know ANYTHING about elites and American records..when it's done with such little respect. The race director and the Rotary were contacted by numerous people trying to make them understand the absurdity of their claims, and instead of retracting ANYTHING, they just kept promoting it as if it was an actual possibility (which anyone who knows our sport, knows it never was). As a local runner, I'm embarrassed by this. I had planned to do this race before, but now I would boycott it just because this pissed me off so much, and yeah, it's a lame attempt to promote this race.

So I guess it is on to the West Wyoming Marathon for Jill now. I'm betting she can at least set a new CR there...

spearchucker wrote:

So I guess it is on to the West Wyoming Marathon for Jill now. I'm betting she can at least set a new CR there...

Good shout, Kip, Lawlor and Rossi could join her there and set all sorts of records.

Hey guys, quick update before I go to NY track states. Jill didn't start the race but her coach was there. They did hold it up 5 minutes at the start because they were waiting for her to come. I'm not really sure exactly why, but it's over now. I'll try to update more much later tonight. The course was actually certified (the certifier was there, and a reporter) and they had a pace car drive the whole way. Winner ran in the 61-minute range and was male.

I'm going to echo what I said before, and recommend that nobody personally attacks anyone related to this. It seems like some people wrote some particularly bad messages to the RDs that were really unwarranted. Like I said, I'll update more later.

calling it like it is wrote:

Poconos wrote:

Lots of negativity on this thread about the Rotary, Quakertown, etc. -- typical LetsRun idiocy.

Trying to sell your event with dishonest advertising is fraud. It's idiocy to call them out on it?

He's probably calling you an idiot for actually believing any of this was true.

I thought it was the most entertaining thread we've had on here in a while.

Jactical prokers.... wrote:

calling it like it is wrote:

Trying to sell your event with dishonest advertising is fraud. It's idiocy to call them out on it?

He's probably calling you an idiot for actually believing any of this was true.

I thought it was the most entertaining thread we've had on here in a while.

Did anyone believe it was true? And if we did believe it was true, which we didn't, how is that 'negativity'?

habs wrote:

Hey guys, quick update before I go to NY track states. Jill didn't start the race but her coach was there. They did hold it up 5 minutes at the start because they were waiting for her to come. I'm not really sure exactly why, but it's over now. I'll try to update more much later tonight. The course was actually certified (the certifier was there, and a reporter) and they had a pace car drive the whole way. Winner ran in the 61-minute range and was male.

I'm going to echo what I said before, and recommend that nobody personally attacks anyone related to this. It seems like some people wrote some particularly bad messages to the RDs that were really unwarranted. Like I said, I'll update more later.

You do know the difference between measuring a course FOR certification, and certification itself don't you? Please give us the name of the USATF official who certified it. Was this official at the race? Or do you mean the person who measured it?

habs wrote:

I'm going to echo what I said before, and recommend that nobody personally attacks anyone related to this. It seems like some people wrote some particularly bad messages to the RDs that were really unwarranted. Like I said, I'll update more later.

To be fair, they deserve everything they get, you don't talk the talk if you can't run the race.

Next time, say nothing and let the performance (or not) do the talking.

ExpertKipWatcher wrote:

To be fair, they deserve everything they get, you don't talk the talk if you can't run the race.

Next time, say nothing and let the performance (or not) do the talking.

-love this. put up or shut up....they were warned to shut up nicely...and they didn't

It is kind of disturbing how bent out of shape some people get about what any sane person could tell right away was a prank. I hope my life never gets that miserable.

Been around a long time wrote:

It is kind of disturbing how bent out of shape some people get about what any sane person could tell right away was a prank. I hope my life never gets that miserable.

Who is bent out of shape? If people put themselves out there and deceive other people, it is only right that people call them out on this, nobody needs to get the slightest bit out of shape.

Been around a long time wrote:

It is kind of disturbing how bent out of shape some people get about what any sane person could tell right away was a prank. I hope my life never gets that miserable.

If you've been around a long time, you can appreciate how distasteful this whole thing has been. Never mind LRC, what about the people they blatantly lied to in an attempt to promote their race? They spent time and money to come to the race billed as "a record attempt". Those who were blissfully ignorant or those who were morbidly curious wasted a lot today. This wasn't simply a prank, it was stupid and infantile. And for that they deserve to be punished, in a suitable manner of course.

habs wrote:

Hey guys, quick update before I go to NY track states. Jill didn't start the race but her coach was there. They did hold it up 5 minutes at the start because they were waiting for her to come. I'm not really sure exactly why, but it's over now. I'll try to update more much later tonight. The course was actually certified (the certifier was there, and a reporter) and they had a pace car drive the whole way. Winner ran in the 61-minute range and was male.

I'm going to echo what I said before, and recommend that nobody personally attacks anyone related to this. It seems like some people wrote some particularly bad messages to the RDs that were really unwarranted. Like I said, I'll update more later.

go home hillbilly

Been around a long time wrote:

It is kind of disturbing how bent out of shape some people get about what any sane person could tell right away was a prank. I hope my life never gets that miserable.

Prank? What prank? Pranks end in a punch line; someone yelling gotcha so everyone can enjoy a good laugh. Don't recall the RD or the good doctor 'fessing up to anything.

Just because no one believed this dumb tale doesn't make it a prank. It just means it was a pointless big fat fib.

Classic stuff. She didn't want to turn up to the race... but she turned up 2.5 hours early to run it then instead? Yes, good plan.

Jill, if you're a fast runner, just quietly turn up to some of the many certified races around your state and post a couple of fast times. You don't have to go for an AR. Just get something decent on the board. Then you can start thinking about records.

... and if you're *not* a fast runner, and you just made a mistake, like a km/mi error, or you did a short course, or your boss forced you into something you didn't want to do, then own up to it, or at least just learn your lesson.

It's been a fun ride with a boring conclusion. I especially liked the facebook screenshots and the fact that at least two organizations were involved in this. A++++ would follow again.

Mike is already practicing for that one. Looks like he is getting nicely into shape to earn his $200,000 in Wyoming!

ExpertKipWatcher wrote:

spearchucker wrote:

So I guess it is on to the West Wyoming Marathon for Jill now. I'm betting she can at least set a new CR there...

Good shout, Kip, Lawlor and Rossi could join her there and set all sorts of records.

Why doesn't she start with Broad Street? Catherine Ndereba's 53:07 is the course record. Just a win there without breaking the CR would be a huge accomplishment.

SmartRunnr wrote:

Mike is already practicing for that one. Looks like he is getting nicely into shape to earn his $200,000 in Wyoming!

Car been in for a service then?

Mr. Habs,

Please don't update us, you are irrelevant.

The clowns trying to hype their event deserve everything they got/get.

If Rotary was involved and a knowing participant they need to be sanctioned.

In the world these days, these event planners/sponsors are very lucky that something untoward didn't happen, too many nuts out there these days to try to be 'clever'.