Official LRC President Joseph R Biden Thread

Lunacy1 wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

When is the right time and the right way? We've been asking that question for almost 20 years. Do you have an answer?

Damn man, I've already made a list multiple times! The right time would be in the winter when the Taliban are hiding out in their caves and camps. The right way would be to secure (remove) or destroy our military equipment so the Taliban doesn't have it all, to draw down slower, to get our people, our allies and our Afghan friends out BEFORE jumping ship, to give air support to the Afghan military that had trained with and desperately needed air support to hold on, to work with our allies like Great Britain to coordinate a plan and get buy in, and so on. Those are just the most obvious.

I'll chime in to make 2 points:

1) The good news is that with now far less than 2,500 troops in the country, my guess is that the Taliban is getting it's hands on very little U.S.-OWNED equipment - and almost certainly NOTHING of any great cost or sophistication. The very bad news, of course, is that they DO now own EVERYTHING that we bought and/or maintained for the ANSF over the last 20 years. That's a hell of a lot of bullets, artillery rounds, rifles, machine guns, vehicles, buildings, comm systems, night vision devices, aerostats and their fancy cameras, etc., etc., etc. And hell, it even means the relatively new attack planes and H-60s.....the only consolation being that they won't be flying for long.

2) A few weeks ago - maybe even last week - I very well might have felt bad for the stoppage of allied air support. But on the whole (with exceptions made for at least some of their SOF and I'm sure a few others), the ANSF has now proven itself to have been utterly and completely unworthy of ANY support. We gave it to them in spades for 20 years and they crumbled in weeks. And finished it off by giving up Kabul without a fight.

Lunacy1 wrote:

Fat hurts wrote:

When is the right time and the right way? We've been asking that question for almost 20 years. Do you have an answer?

Damn man, I've already made a list multiple times! The right time would be in the winter when the Taliban are hiding out in their caves and camps. The right way would be to secure (remove) or destroy our military equipment so the Taliban doesn't have it all, to draw down slower, to get our people, our allies and our Afghan friends out BEFORE jumping ship, to give air support to the Afghan military that had trained with and desperately needed air support to hold on, to work with our allies like Great Britain to coordinate a plan and get buy in, and so on. Those are just the most obvious.

You are completely wrong on this. The Afghan military gave up and folded completely... they were never participating in any transition here. It reaffirms our decision to have left. We shouldn't have stayed another day. And your comment about the winter is idiotic. The Taliban has not been hiding anywhere for many years. They have mostly operated freely outside of Kabul, save for the larger cities. And to assume they are afraid of cold weather is just stupid. Had we moved the deadline to the winter, the Taliban would have simply moved their takeover to the same day. Re our military equipment, this is being exaggerated. The logistical apparatus was mostly dismantled in the last couple of years. You can't take every single thing back, especially when the idea was for the Afghan military to take it over.

I didn't see you complain this passionately when trump pulled us out of Syria overnight.

wazzu1452 wrote:

94% of covid deaths were people with pre existing conditions.

So you don't care about people with pre-existing conditions? They should just die?

Man up and get the shot. It only hurts for a second but you might save some Republican lives.

You won't save any Democrats though because we already did the right thing. We were brave and got our shots.

Only Republicans are dying these days. It's the Republican flu.

"So you don't care about people with pre-existing conditions?"

They should take every precaution to protect themselves.

However, don't limit my freedom or liberty on their behalf.

Hey....guess what...if you don't like my response you can GFO you liberal Nanny State TWAT.

LIBERALS - QUICK - Now is the time to care about Biden's complete F'up in Afghanistan!!

One of your own is in peril........

"sob, cry, sob, We need to do something now" ~ The Progressives

https://www.washingtonblade.com/2021/08/15/transgender-usaf-veteran-trapped-in-taliban-takeover-of-kabul/

wazzu1452 wrote:

They should take every precaution to protect themselves.

Like getting the shot... I promise, it won't hurt!

Watching Biden live now.. I repeat, you are nuts if you think he's senile. You knew that, but I insist on reminding everyone. Even with his classic propensity for gaffes, he's a very articulate speaker and clearly he has great judgement. Light years better than the former social media influencer. Thank you President Biden for getting us out of another pointless war.

Trollminator wrote:

Watching Biden live now.. I repeat, you are nuts if you think he's senile. You knew that, but I insist on reminding everyone. Even with his classic propensity for gaffes, he's a very articulate speaker and clearly he has great judgement. Light years better than the former social media influencer. Thank you President Biden for getting us out of another pointless war.

He's reading an F'ing teleprompter the words others have put together for him, and he isn't even reading it particularly well. I will say it is as good a speech as they could put together given the f-up. Especially since he just keeps repeating the same things. Boring as hell, but maybe it will work on many mindless people out there.

Lunacy1 wrote:

Trollminator wrote:

Watching Biden live now.. I repeat, you are nuts if you think he's senile. You knew that, but I insist on reminding everyone. Even with his classic propensity for gaffes, he's a very articulate speaker and clearly he has great judgement. Light years better than the former social media influencer. Thank you President Biden for getting us out of another pointless war.

He's reading an F'ing teleprompter the words others have put together for him, and he isn't even reading it particularly well. I will say it is as good a speech as they could put together given the f-up. Especially since he just keeps repeating the same things. Boring as hell, but maybe it will work on many mindless people out there.

And he answers NO questions!!! So this only proves he is mostly capable of reading from a teleprompter. Nothing else.

Biden refused to take a single question after his speech. He sprinted out like he was trying to catch a plane out of Kabul.

Trollminator wrote:

Watching Biden live now.. I repeat, you are nuts if you think he's senile. You knew that, but I insist on reminding everyone. Even with his classic propensity for gaffes, he's a very articulate speaker and clearly he has great judgement. Light years better than the former social media influencer. Thank you President Biden for getting us out of another pointless war.

The man is barely alive after a rigorous day of teleprompter reading. He wants the Afghanistan people to fight but he CANNOT even face reporters and take a single question. Then he ran away to Camp David to hide like a scared little b!tch. What a worthless clown we have for a POTUS.

nonequals wrote:

There is some level of U.S. forces and material aid to the ANSF that could have indefinitely stopped the Taliban from substantially interfering with our CT operations in and from AFG.

How do people not understand after 20 fvcking years of troop activity and money spent that this is obviously not the case. The only options were to leave, or to become a permanent occupying force and turn Afghanistan into a colony.

I'll say it again - what you are seeing unfold is the inevitable result. You could replay the past 20 years and re-spend how ever many trillions of dollars in a near infinite number of different permutations, and every single one of them would lead to this endgame.

Racket, PhD wrote:

nonequals wrote:

There is some level of U.S. forces and material aid to the ANSF that could have indefinitely stopped the Taliban from substantially interfering with our CT operations in and from AFG.

How do people not understand after 20 fvcking years of troop activity and money spent that this is obviously not the case. The only options were to leave, or to become a permanent occupying force and turn Afghanistan into a colony.

I'll say it again - what you are seeing unfold is the inevitable result. You could replay the past 20 years and re-spend how ever many trillions of dollars in a near infinite number of different permutations, and every single one of them would lead to this endgame.

Hey dummy, it was Biden's clusterfu*k of the withdrawal process, not his decision to leave.

Lunacy1 wrote:

Lunacy1 wrote:

He's reading an F'ing teleprompter the words others have put together for him, and he isn't even reading it particularly well. I will say it is as good a speech as they could put together given the f-up. Especially since he just keeps repeating the same things. Boring as hell, but maybe it will work on many mindless people out there.

And he answers NO questions!!! So this only proves he is mostly capable of reading from a teleprompter. Nothing else.

Facts!

wazzu1452 wrote:

"So you don't care about people with pre-existing conditions?"

They should take every precaution to protect themselves.

However, don't limit my freedom or liberty on their behalf.

Hey....guess what...if you don't like my response you can GFO you liberal Nanny State TWAT.

Would you look at that. Wazzu being a covid tool, as usual. You can’t talk rights without talking about responsibilities.

Good heavens…. you know it’s getting bad when they don’t even dare let Dementia Joe take a single question (even why most of the Fake News media coddle him).

Defund the Democrats.

Most of you posting really have little credibility. You flip and flop based on what your side does.

I voted Biden. Trump is a douche bag and anybody who supported him I believe to be the same. Biden and co. absolutely mucked this up. Pulling the troops out is what a majority of Americans want. But nobody wanted to see this. I’m glad Biden took some responsibility for this (didn’t know it would happen this quickly). He said that the Afghan army, the Afghan government basically laid down and fled. Well, how could they not know this was a good possibility? I’m watching Greg Gutfield on fox and I can’t believe I agree with him on this. It’s rich that those on Fox are so critical and so upset here when they were far from upset when Trump agreed with the Taliban to withdraw all troops by May 1st.

I don’t know how Biden recovers from this. I wonder what those who claimed were in favor of withdrawing troops would say now that it has happened. This was a massive political gamble by Biden. And I think he has miscalculated here. And I’m afraid that this decision will now push people to vote red in upcoming elections.