Meep Meep! wrote:
Scam_Watcheroo, I agree your next experiment should include cadence. I didn't realize that was missing from the 3:30 mile. Evidently it looks as though one of the UK runners didn't like your example. It has now been flagged as suspicious!
LOL! What proof do they have that I didn't run a 3:30 mile? I have Strava proof!
I will definitely have cadence and heart rate for my next spoof.
Meep Meep! wrote:
Oops, I see it now in purple. You have to turn it on. Interesting.
Why lots of evidence needed wrote:
Gary Kiernan - So the crux of the issue is the tracker has been turned off or has been out of signal when it should have been in signal? Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't the tracker just so people could find Mimi to run with her and wasn't supposed to be part of the record evidence.
No, according to Mimi, as far back as a year ago, Guiness World Records was insisting upon live tracking data. Of course it should be accurate, and be part of the evidence. Links to the interview where Mimi said this was provided earlier in this thread.
excuze me wrote:
Why lots of evidence needed wrote:Gary Kiernan - So the crux of the issue is the tracker has been turned off or has been out of signal when it should have been in signal? Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't the tracker just so people could find Mimi to run with her and wasn't supposed to be part of the record evidence.
No, according to Mimi, as far back as a year ago, Guiness World Records was insisting upon live tracking data. Of course it should be accurate, and be part of the evidence. Links to the interview where Mimi said this was provided earlier in this thread.
Furthermore, all of the live tracking data, of Mimi, the RV, the support car, are to be uploaded near realtime. It is significant forensic evidence that should match very closely (but obviously not exactly) to Strava data taken from the watches. One of the problems here is that Mimi chose a tracking company that seems to be partial to her team; they are not independent, so probably not objective in data review.
Meanwhile, Sandy Vi ended her day at ~863 miles in 16 days; 53.9 miles per day. She is well ahead of the 63.5 day record, and at current pace to finish in 58 days.
Mimi has covered some 1200 miles in 19 days; 63 miles per day. At her current pace she would finish in 45-1/2 days. With Mimi I am going by where she currently is and the distance to LA City Hall and NYC City Hall.
Now 46 days, 8 Hours and 36 minutes is the 2nd fastest crossing of all time. Only Pete K has better that. Mimi is on pace to better Frank by nearly a full day!!! ... Yeah, sure thing.
Yeah, Mimi's very high mileage day after day is suspicious when viewed in conjunction with all the other abnormal pieces of evidence (plus Mimi having had knee surgery and much older than Pete) . There is just way too many suspicious things going on with Mimi's run compared with Sandra's. If both Mimi and Sandra finish and Mimi has the faster time, I'm still going to declare Sandra the record holder since Sandra is the one meeting current expectations.
Scam_Watcheroo wrote:
Yeah, Mimi's very high mileage day after day is suspicious when viewed in conjunction with all the other abnormal pieces of evidence (plus Mimi having had knee surgery and much older than Pete) . There is just way too many suspicious things going on with Mimi's run compared with Sandra's. If both Mimi and Sandra finish and Mimi has the faster time, I'm still going to declare Sandra the record holder since Sandra is the one meeting current expectations.
Mimi's attempt has been unofficial as far as I see it for several days. Hopefully she settles for that and avoids advertising her Marvellous run. But I see he trying to maximize the gain.
It's 8:15 PM Colorado time right now and Mimi's GPS tracker still shows her as on the move (funny that we didn't have any GPS tracker outages today after the big uproar yesterday). Her tracker shows the support car as going at 78 mph with Mimi at 1 mph, and the RV as stationary but online.
Mimi's Strava data shows that she had already finished her run at 6:06 PM yesterday (Monday). So why is it taking Mimi so long to finish today when it is already way past dark? I'm curious to see what they will post to Strava today.
I don't know how both of these ladies do it. And Mimi is coming off of knee surgery. It is amazing, no?
this is amazing, no? wrote:
I don't know how both of these ladies do it. And Mimi is coming off of knee surgery. It is amazing, no?
It is marvellous, yes.
Mimi finished as 03:14 GMT, or 8:14 pm Colorado time. A longer than usual day.
I'm going to double check the numbers tomorrow, but there is no way that a 55 year old woman coming off knee surgery could run 60+ miles / day through the desert in 100+ degree heat and up the Rockies. The idea is preposterous!
this is amazing, no? wrote:
I don't know how both of these ladies do it. And Mimi is coming off of knee surgery. It is amazing, no?
No. It is unbelievable.
Enough wrote:
I'm going to double check the numbers tomorrow, but there is no way that a 55 year old woman coming off knee surgery could run 60+ miles / day through the desert in 100+ degree heat and up the Rockies. The idea is preposterous!
I think a boots on the ground invasion is coming.
not amazing wrote:
this is amazing, no? wrote:I don't know how both of these ladies do it. And Mimi is coming off of knee surgery. It is amazing, no?
No. It is unbelievable.
Sandra's run is believable, Mimi's is not.
Marvellous Boots wrote:
I think a boots on the ground invasion is coming.
Just like we had boots on the ground for Rob Young. Talk talk talk and no action.
basement dweller wrote:
Marvellous Boots wrote:I think a boots on the ground invasion is coming.
Just like we had boots on the ground for Rob Young. Talk talk talk and no action.
Ahem, boots caught RY as he fled in his RV. Many of the boots will be in stealth mode. Tell Mimi she has no way of knowing when to be on the bike and when to actually run.
Scam_Watcheroo wrote:
It's 8:15 PM Colorado time right now and Mimi's GPS tracker still shows her as on the move (funny that we didn't have any GPS tracker outages today after the big uproar yesterday). Her tracker shows the support car as going at 78 mph with Mimi at 1 mph, and the RV as stationary but online.
Mimi's Strava data shows that she had already finished her run at 6:06 PM yesterday (Monday). So why is it taking Mimi so long to finish today when it is already way past dark? I'm curious to see what they will post to Strava today.
It is now 10:18 PM Colorado time right now and yet there is still no Strava upload. Why is it taking so long to upload after the run is over? Is that normal?
skkljljpop wrote:
Scam_Watcheroo wrote:It's 8:15 PM Colorado time right now and Mimi's GPS tracker still shows her as on the move (funny that we didn't have any GPS tracker outages today after the big uproar yesterday). Her tracker shows the support car as going at 78 mph with Mimi at 1 mph, and the RV as stationary but online.
Mimi's Strava data shows that she had already finished her run at 6:06 PM yesterday (Monday). So why is it taking Mimi so long to finish today when it is already way past dark? I'm curious to see what they will post to Strava today.
It is now 10:18 PM Colorado time right now and yet there is still no Strava upload. Why is it taking so long to upload after the run is over? Is that normal?
No it is abnormal. Mimi has been posting regularly post-run.
Abbey Normall wrote:
It is now 10:18 PM Colorado time right now and yet there is still no Strava upload. Why is it taking so long to upload after the run is over? Is that normal?
No it is abnormal. Mimi has been posting regularly post-run.[/quote]
^Does this bother anybody else? Guys, it can't be emphasized enough that THIS IS A HUGE RED FLAG!
Duh! Just because Scam_watheroo demonstrated that it actually is possible for someone to massage and clean up a Strava file before uploading, there is absolutely no reason for either of the parties in this World Record attempt to even be opening the files and looking at the raw data (let alone changing it) before uploading. If the participants truly want full accountability and credibility, then they should be making sure Strava data is uploaded as soon as the runners stop for the data. The data should be there within minutes of them stopping. As someone has repeatedly stated, there is plenty of cell coverage out there. So what gives?