Sadly, this is exactly the right answer. The 300,000 untrained mobiks are a fine place to start. Maybe their deaths won't be in vain if they finally convince Russians that their invasion was a foolish (and costly) idea.
Sadly, this is exactly the right answer. The 300,000 untrained mobiks are a fine place to start. Maybe their deaths won't be in vain if they finally convince Russians that their invasion was a foolish (and costly) idea.
Sadly, this is exactly the right answer. The 300,000 untrained mobiks are a fine place to start. Maybe their deaths won't be in vain if they finally convince Russians that their invasion was a foolish (and costly) idea.
This is a childish and simplistic opinion.
No. It's a realistic opinion. Russian setback on the battlefield are going to be necessary. That's going to come with Russian deaths. I'm happy to hear some other options you have for how else to convince Russia that their decision to invade Ukraine was the wrong one.
Amazing how American posters cheer on a terrorist act in Crimea. People who live there are now suffering because of infrastructural damages, not to mention 3 civilians that died due to explosion.
That's the problem, most Americans are pathological psychopaths (inability to feel empathy) and they absolutely do not care about Ukrainians. They only care about "sticking it" to Russians, liberals, democrats, blacks, mexicans, gays and whoever else is not a white middle aged American male.
This is why you deserve every single school shooting and terrorist attack. Because sowing hate reaps hate. Try to feel something for someone else who isn't you, for change.
You lost any remaining shred of credibility when you referred to the attack on the Kerch Bridge as a "terrorist act". The people who live in Ukraine have been suffering because of infrastructural damages that Russia's invasion has caused over the last 7+ months. An invasion that you don't condemn. So, please explain how Americans are the pathological psychopaths when they overwhelmingly favor supporting Ukraine, while you can't even condemn Russia's invasion. Maybe it's time to get your news from some place other than TASS, because you seem to parrot all of their talking points without even thinking about how much a f*cking nut job you sound like.
You are also one of the LRC hypocrisy warriors. Since Russia has been targeting civilian infrastructure since the beginning of their invasion, and Ukraine's attack on the Kerch Bridge is a "terrorist act", does that make every Russian a terrorist? Or just most of them? You do want the same rules for everybody right?
So according to you, it is ok to commit a terrorist act and kill civilians, because Russia has done so before? Yes or no question.
I already explained how Americans are psychopaths, just re-read my previous post as many times as you need.
I have never said it is good for Russia to target civilian targets. What I have said though is if AZOV fighters gonna use empty schools, hospitals and theaters as their military bases, those building will be shot (back) at. I do not see any Russian soldiers using Kerch bridge as their military base. This was a pure act of terrorism, a prime example of what a terror act looks like. Damaging civilian infrastructure with civilian casualties without attacking any military personell.
C'mon, buddy, step it up. I know you can do this better. Sending you a virtual cup of coffee ☕
Sadly, this is exactly the right answer. The 300,000 untrained mobiks are a fine place to start. Maybe their deaths won't be in vain if they finally convince Russians that their invasion was a foolish (and costly) idea.
You lost any remaining shred of credibility when you referred to the attack on the Kerch Bridge as a "terrorist act". The people who live in Ukraine have been suffering because of infrastructural damages that Russia's invasion has caused over the last 7+ months. An invasion that you don't condemn. So, please explain how Americans are the pathological psychopaths when they overwhelmingly favor supporting Ukraine, while you can't even condemn Russia's invasion. Maybe it's time to get your news from some place other than TASS, because you seem to parrot all of their talking points without even thinking about how much a f*cking nut job you sound like.
You are also one of the LRC hypocrisy warriors. Since Russia has been targeting civilian infrastructure since the beginning of their invasion, and Ukraine's attack on the Kerch Bridge is a "terrorist act", does that make every Russian a terrorist? Or just most of them? You do want the same rules for everybody right?
So according to you, it is ok to commit a terrorist act and kill civilians, because Russia has done so before? Yes or no question.
I already explained how Americans are psychopaths, just re-read my previous post as many times as you need.
I have never said it is good for Russia to target civilian targets. What I have said though is if AZOV fighters gonna use empty schools, hospitals and theaters as their military bases, those building will be shot (back) at. I do not see any Russian soldiers using Kerch bridge as their military base. This was a pure act of terrorism, a prime example of what a terror act looks like. Damaging civilian infrastructure with civilian casualties without attacking any military personell.
C'mon, buddy, step it up. I know you can do this better. Sending you a virtual cup of coffee ☕
You do realize that Russian were using the Kerch Bridge to move significant amounts of military equipment to Ukrainian Crimea, or did TASS neglect to tell you that? So, now that we’ve established that you’re a pro-Russian fanatic, I think we can safely dismiss any further comments you have in this thread as garbage.
Does Putin really think he can tun this around is he really that far out there from reality? All that is going to happen from here on out is more dead Russians and destroyed equipment, All Putin gained was NATO on his border.
That gang roaming Russia causing problems should have happened long ago.
Where is this guy really at, he comes off being pretty stupid. Thinking you can just steal country, what a dummy. Thinking .....hey guys drop what you are doing and join in the special operations in Ukraine. Did the dummy really think that was going to work? These guys are immediately surrending once they arrive some even joining in vs Russia.
Putin is whipped, love xeeing it.
If Putin getting whipped is a double-edged sword.
Sure it might be satisfying in the short term, but in the medium term it makes him and the Kremlin more and more desperate. The stakes for Putin if he loses this war could be his life, and at the very least he would be removed from power (and likely replaced with someone even more militaristic).
So before you continue cheering on Putin's losses, remember that a defeated Putin is a dangerous Putin. If he's cornered, nukes are 100% on the table. Then what?
The only way forward from here is 1) de-escalation through negotiation or ceasefire or 2) massive regime change in Moscow
You do realize that Russian were using the Kerch Bridge to move significant amounts of military equipment to Ukrainian Crimea, or did TASS neglect to tell you that? So, now that we’ve established that you’re a pro-Russian fanatic, I think we can safely dismiss any further comments you have in this thread as garbage.
Following this logic, should Russia attack Poland? Since so many Russian (and Ukrainian) citizens died because NATO is moving weapons through Poland.
You can establish all you want, yet it won't make your IQ go up any higher. Only through a mental exercise of being challenged you can get better. If you only come here for an echo chamber, just say so and I won't adress you ever again :)
lilli-Putin launching missiles into all the Ukrainian cities to kill hundreds of civilians in a retributive tantrum for losing a handful of people and a lot of face on the Kerch bridge. His bruised and blooded ego is that of a punypenised little nazi. It is apparent that theKremlin is in chaos right now, and the fish has rotted from the head down.
You do realize that Russian were using the Kerch Bridge to move significant amounts of military equipment to Ukrainian Crimea, or did TASS neglect to tell you that? So, now that we’ve established that you’re a pro-Russian fanatic, I think we can safely dismiss any further comments you have in this thread as garbage.
Following this logic, should Russia attack Poland? Since so many Russian (and Ukrainian) citizens died because NATO is moving weapons through Poland.
You can establish all you want, yet it won't make your IQ go up any higher. Only through a mental exercise of being challenged you can get better. If you only come here for an echo chamber, just say so and I won't adress you ever again :)
Russia would love to attack Poland to stop the flow of NATO supplied weapons into Ukraine, but is too scared to do so. You know, because NATO.
Let's summarize your argument, and then you can finish off that second handle of vodka for the evening.
In post #7745 you stated: " I simply want an equal system where the same rules apply to all countries."
Now, you pose the question (post #8304): " So according to you, it is ok to commit a terrorist act and kill civilians, because Russia has done so before?"
Well, if you want the same rules to apply to all countries, then the answer to your question is "YES". Just as you were okay with Russia committing hundreds, if not thousands, of terrorists acts over the last 7 months. Since you refuse to condemn, Russia's actions, then you by your logic, you shouldn't condemn Ukraine's.
Now, even more troublesome is that you consider blowing up a bridge used as a vital military supply route as a "terrorist act" simply because there were no military vehicles on the bridge at the time. The only other people stupid enough to make that argument are the Russian ultra-nationalists that are advocating for Putin to use nuclear weapons just for funsies.
I would love to come here and hear a compelling argument in favor of Russia. You seem utterly incapable of providing one, and can't help but resort to whataboutistm, while exposing your own hypocrisy, all while not providing any fact-based arguments to support your fantasy.
Does Putin really think he can tun this around is he really that far out there from reality? All that is going to happen from here on out is more dead Russians and destroyed equipment, All Putin gained was NATO on his border.
That gang roaming Russia causing problems should have happened long ago.
Where is this guy really at, he comes off being pretty stupid. Thinking you can just steal country, what a dummy. Thinking .....hey guys drop what you are doing and join in the special operations in Ukraine. Did the dummy really think that was going to work? These guys are immediately surrending once they arrive some even joining in vs Russia.
Putin is whipped, love xeeing it.
If Putin getting whipped is a double-edged sword.
Sure it might be satisfying in the short term, but in the medium term it makes him and the Kremlin more and more desperate. The stakes for Putin if he loses this war could be his life, and at the very least he would be removed from power (and likely replaced with someone even more militaristic).
So before you continue cheering on Putin's losses, remember that a defeated Putin is a dangerous Putin. If he's cornered, nukes are 100% on the table. Then what?
The only way forward from here is 1) de-escalation through negotiation or ceasefire or 2) massive regime change in Moscow
The other options are NOT GOOD.
the only quick way out of this is regime change in RU
UKR is nowhere close to making concessions to RU. Could happen after a few years of this but now we are nowhere close.
Not sure why we're more likely to use nukes now than during previous proxy wars. Did we stop funding the Afghans or Vietnamese or Koreans because we were worried about nukes?
By slamming you mean “attacking civilians” but not actually doing anything to shift the frontlines. Congrats, Carmine, you now support a terrorist regimes and are proud of it.
I don't support NATO.
I have pushed for negotations and peace all along while you guys cheer on Ukraine attacks.
Foolishly thinking Ukraine can win a war with Russia.
I did tell you this would happen but could not penetrate the bubble.
Well now it's here
Bingo.
Much like the rest of the world (BRICS+SA), we view NATO as inherently disingenuous and corrupt.
Russia, China and India all aligning against the petrodollar….. Saudis now telling Brandon to F the F off (after making him bow down first)…..
Still have to wonder why the US political class cares so much about the Ukraine? Hmmm- just can’t figure it out. LOL
Russia would love to attack Poland to stop the flow of NATO supplied weapons into Ukraine, but is too scared to do so. You know, because NATO.
Let's summarize your argument, and then you can finish off that second handle of vodka for the evening.
In post #7745 you stated: " I simply want an equal system where the same rules apply to all countries."
Now, you pose the question (post #8304): " So according to you, it is ok to commit a terrorist act and kill civilians, because Russia has done so before?"
Well, if you want the same rules to apply to all countries, then the answer to your question is "YES". Just as you were okay with Russia committing hundreds, if not thousands, of terrorists acts over the last 7 months. Since you refuse to condemn, Russia's actions, then you by your logic, you shouldn't condemn Ukraine's.
Now, even more troublesome is that you consider blowing up a bridge used as a vital military supply route as a "terrorist act" simply because there were no military vehicles on the bridge at the time. The only other people stupid enough to make that argument are the Russian ultra-nationalists that are advocating for Putin to use nuclear weapons just for funsies.
I would love to come here and hear a compelling argument in favor of Russia. You seem utterly incapable of providing one, and can't help but resort to whataboutistm, while exposing your own hypocrisy, all while not providing any fact-based arguments to support your fantasy.
That's more like it, here you go, turning on your engine :)
In order to dig in deeper, whe have to define what a terror act is. For me personally, it is an attack against civilians and civilian infrastructure.
Russians blowing up a theater or a train station with soldiers inside is not a terror act, but a war act. Now, Ukrainians blowing up Kerch bridge with civilians passing and no military personell present is a terror act.
No terror acts are good, not Russian, not Ukrainian and not American.
My argument in favor for Russia is that Ukraine has been at war with itself way before the West cared about it. Only once Russia chose to support the Russian ethnic Ukrainian citizens in the fight for their rights, the US decided to "stick it" to Russia. I do not celebrate acts of war (or terrorism), but I understand how Western actions in Ukraine have been worrisome to Russian ethnic Ukrainians and also to Russia.
Sure it might be satisfying in the short term, but in the medium term it makes him and the Kremlin more and more desperate. The stakes for Putin if he loses this war could be his life, and at the very least he would be removed from power (and likely replaced with someone even more militaristic).
So before you continue cheering on Putin's losses, remember that a defeated Putin is a dangerous Putin. If he's cornered, nukes are 100% on the table. Then what?
The only way forward from here is 1) de-escalation through negotiation or ceasefire or 2) massive regime change in Moscow
The other options are NOT GOOD.
the only quick way out of this is regime change in RU
UKR is nowhere close to making concessions to RU. Could happen after a few years of this but now we are nowhere close.
Not sure why we're more likely to use nukes now than during previous proxy wars. Did we stop funding the Afghans or Vietnamese or Koreans because we were worried about nukes?
You answer your own question. The stakes are higher than in previous proxy wars because military defeat of Russia probably results in regime change in Russia.
The options seem to be
1) Russia regime change via internal politics, new regime can reach peace settlement without the baggage of starting the war.
2) Military defeat of Russia causing capitulation, which destroys Putin's standing with Russians and probable loss of power.
3) Ukraine conceding land in a peace settlement or military defeat of Ukraine following withdraw of western military support. This could come from fracturing of EU support due to energy supply driven hardship through coming winter and beyond.
It's not apparent how Russia benefits from nuclear escalation, but when Putin position and maybe is life are threatened it's hard to say for certain that he won't knock over the table.
the only quick way out of this is regime change in RU
UKR is nowhere close to making concessions to RU. Could happen after a few years of this but now we are nowhere close.
Not sure why we're more likely to use nukes now than during previous proxy wars. Did we stop funding the Afghans or Vietnamese or Koreans because we were worried about nukes?
Or change of the regime in UKR. Or change of the regime in the US.
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