It's 100% wrong on its face. In fact, it's logically and factually ludicrous. In what bizarro universe is it bad for Ukraine to be supplied weapons to defend itself from a murderous invading force? I'm good at figuring out where jaded, deluded nutjobs like yourself are coming from, but I can't even conjure up a whacko explanation for how supplying weapons to Ukraine to fight Russians is bad for Ukraine. Your neighbor's home is being invaded by a criminal, but don't give him a gun to defend himself because it's bad for him . . . . WTF?
I mean I "get" when you dictator/terrorist appeasers say it's bad for America to supply weapons to Ukraine because that costs money and it's not respectful of Russia's feelings, but how on earth is it bad for Ukrainians fighting for their country (and their lives) to be supplied weapons to fight with? All the evidence accumulated since March is that Ukraine has been pretty successful defending themselves against Russia with those weapons. You appeaser types are just hopelessly confused people.
Watch and see how it turns out.
1. America's $31 TRILLION in debt. No American who actually cares about America should be for sending tens of billions to Ukraine.
2. Russia is Europe's problem. We paid to babysit them for the last 70+ years. It's high time those pompous clowns paid for their own defense.
3. Russia is a failed state. The only threat they pose to the world is nuclear and the current policy in Ukraine is driving them into using them.
4. Ukrainians aren't any better off under corrupt Ukrainian politicians than they are under corrupt Russian politicians.
The first three items above (1-3) are nothing more than the goal-post shifting deflections you are famous for. They have nothing to do with your illogical assertion that "it was bad for Ukraine that the west was willing to send weapons," or my response to that truly stupid assertion. They are absolute irrelevancies, as if you think just broadly reciting your favorite themes is an actual response to any and everything posted about Russia's invasion of Ukraine.
Only item four (4) above has any kind of slim relevance, but it is not factual, just some nebulous and speculative opinion you hold. Ukrainians don't agree with you at all as to when they are better off. They do not want the Russia military in their country telling them what to do at gunpoint, and they are willing to die to prevent that from happening. The judgment of Ukrainians as to when they are better off is FAR more informed than your judgment.
Your assertion that "it was bad for Ukraine that the west was willing to send weapons" remains a ludicrous, illogical and unsupportable statement, for the reasons set forth in previous responses. You were challenged to support that statement and could not come up with ANY reason that it is bad for Ukraine to be supplied with weapons to fight off an invasion by Russia.
America's $31 TRILLION in debt. No American who actually cares about America should be for sending tens of billions to Ukraine.
Russia is Europe's problem. We paid to babysit them for the last 70+ years. It's high time those pompous clowns paid for their own defense.
Russia is a failed state. The only threat they pose to the world is nuclear and the current policy in Ukraine is driving them into using them.
Ukrainians aren't any better off under corrupt Ukrainian politicians than they are under corrupt Russian politicians.
And America shouldn’t be spending $5 billion dollars to build a wall that Mexico is paying for. And Florida shouldn’t be spending millions of dollars to send people from Texas to Massachusetts. And America shouldn’t have spent millions of dollars protecting Trump while he played golf every day. But, here we are.
Border security is worth the money. We could have built 3 walls with the money we've sent to be stolen by corrupt Ukrainians.
Biden's been on vacation for most of his first 2 years and he's still managed to destroy the economy. God help us if the diaper wearing old fool ever actually shows up to work.
1. America's $31 TRILLION in debt. No American who actually cares about America should be for sending tens of billions to Ukraine.
2. Russia is Europe's problem. We paid to babysit them for the last 70+ years. It's high time those pompous clowns paid for their own defense.
3. Russia is a failed state. The only threat they pose to the world is nuclear and the current policy in Ukraine is driving them into using them.
4. Ukrainians aren't any better off under corrupt Ukrainian politicians than they are under corrupt Russian politicians.
The first three items above (1-3) are nothing more than the goal-post shifting deflections you are famous for. They have nothing to do with your illogical assertion that "it was bad for Ukraine that the west was willing to send weapons," or my response to that truly stupid assertion. They are absolute irrelevancies, as if you think just broadly reciting your favorite themes is an actual response to any and everything posted about Russia's invasion of Ukraine.
Only item four (4) above has any kind of slim relevance, but it is not factual, just some nebulous and speculative opinion you hold. Ukrainians don't agree with you at all as to when they are better off. They do not want the Russia military in their country telling them what to do at gunpoint, and they are willing to die to prevent that from happening. The judgment of Ukrainians as to when they are better off is FAR more informed than your judgment.
Your assertion that "it was bad for Ukraine that the west was willing to send weapons" remains a ludicrous, illogical and unsupportable statement, for the reasons set forth in previous responses. You were challenged to support that statement and could not come up with ANY reason that it is bad for Ukraine to be supplied with weapons to fight off an invasion by Russia.
I'm not shifting anything I've had the same opinion since the war started. The US shouldn't be involved.
If the west doesn't prop up Ukraine Russia wins fairly quickly and the status quo in Ukraine is back to normal. Life under corrupt Russians isn't much different than life under corrupt Ukrainians.
Giving Ukraine weapons and endless aid has dragged the war our for what will probably be years now and is just resulting in the destruction of 20% of Ukraine.
The west is using Ukrainian blood to have a proxy war with Russia. The west doesn't give a damn about Ukraine.
Life under corrupt Russians isn't much different than life under corrupt Ukrainians.
If you think life in a pro-Western democracy is the same as life under an authoritarian dictator, then you’re even dumber than I gave you credit for.
Please compare freedom of expression in Ukraine vs. Russia.
How about censorship on the internet in Ukraine vs. Russia.
How about freedom to protest the government in Ukraine vs. Russia.
Ukraine isn’t perfect by any means, but Russia is a f*cking sh*thole. I mean, people are legitimately concerned about Putin using nuclear weapons to defend his ego.
Life under corrupt Russians isn't much different than life under corrupt Ukrainians.
If you think life in a pro-Western democracy is the same as life under an authoritarian dictator, then you’re even dumber than I gave you credit for.
Please compare freedom of expression in Ukraine vs. Russia.
How about censorship on the internet in Ukraine vs. Russia.
How about freedom to protest the government in Ukraine vs. Russia.
Ukraine isn’t perfect by any means, but Russia is a f*cking sh*thole. I mean, people are legitimately concerned about Putin using nuclear weapons to defend his ego.
Ukraine isn't a democracy...
Zelensky is a corrupt thug. The invasion was the best thing that's ever happened to him.
The first three items above (1-3) are nothing more than the goal-post shifting deflections you are famous for. They have nothing to do with your illogical assertion that "it was bad for Ukraine that the west was willing to send weapons," or my response to that truly stupid assertion. They are absolute irrelevancies, as if you think just broadly reciting your favorite themes is an actual response to any and everything posted about Russia's invasion of Ukraine.
Only item four (4) above has any kind of slim relevance, but it is not factual, just some nebulous and speculative opinion you hold. Ukrainians don't agree with you at all as to when they are better off. They do not want the Russia military in their country telling them what to do at gunpoint, and they are willing to die to prevent that from happening. The judgment of Ukrainians as to when they are better off is FAR more informed than your judgment.
Your assertion that "it was bad for Ukraine that the west was willing to send weapons" remains a ludicrous, illogical and unsupportable statement, for the reasons set forth in previous responses. You were challenged to support that statement and could not come up with ANY reason that it is bad for Ukraine to be supplied with weapons to fight off an invasion by Russia.
I'm not shifting anything I've had the same opinion since the war started. The US shouldn't be involved.
If the west doesn't prop up Ukraine Russia wins fairly quickly and the status quo in Ukraine is back to normal. Life under corrupt Russians isn't much different than life under corrupt Ukrainians.
Giving Ukraine weapons and endless aid has dragged the war our for what will probably be years now and is just resulting in the destruction of 20% of Ukraine.
The west is using Ukrainian blood to have a proxy war with Russia. The west doesn't give a damn about Ukraine.
When the issue is your stupid assertion that ""it was bad for Ukraine that the west was willing to send weapons," it is the definition of deflecting/moving goal posts to defend that stupid assertion by raising irrelevant issues about America's debt, Russia being Europe's problem, and Russia being a failed state.
On this, your third try at it, you seem to now be saying that it is bad for Ukraine to have weapons to fight off Russia's invasion because, you wildly speculate, Ukrainians are too misguided and/or misinformed (i.e., dumb) to realize that quickly losing the war and being conquered by Russians is actually better for them than being ruled by their own politicians. Again, the judgment of Ukrainians as to whether and when they are better off is FAR more informed than your judgment. Are you really so narcissistic and pompous that think you know better than the Ukrainians who are risking their lives fighting Russian invaders as to what is best for them? I don't think Russian state TV talk shows have even tried out that demented spin. You are one weird banana.
You and Carmine were in the same mental hospital, am I correct?
Carmine definitely takes the cake as the biggest nutjob poster on the board. He makes the other Putin fanboys almost seem rational. Almost.
Hey, since People are saying Historical Hero's are Villains (Examples Columbus, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson And tearing their Statue's down) I figured why not be in with the in crowd (That was a song, I'm in with the in crowd, I know where the ladies dance, was early 1970's I think) Then doesn't it make sense to make the Villains Heroes? And start putting up statues of Idi Amin, Pol Pot, Lenin (They have a Statue of Lenin in Seattle already) We can be like The Bizarro in the Superman Comics, where good is bad, bad is good, wrong is right, right is wrong etc. but it is true there is good in bad people and bad in good people and it can be very confusing, Oh yeah I stand by my statement Hitler was a good painter, not as good as Hunter Biden who gets Hundreds of Thousands for his painting skill, but he was good
I'm not shifting anything I've had the same opinion since the war started. The US shouldn't be involved.
If the west doesn't prop up Ukraine Russia wins fairly quickly and the status quo in Ukraine is back to normal. Life under corrupt Russians isn't much different than life under corrupt Ukrainians.
Giving Ukraine weapons and endless aid has dragged the war our for what will probably be years now and is just resulting in the destruction of 20% of Ukraine.
The west is using Ukrainian blood to have a proxy war with Russia. The west doesn't give a damn about Ukraine.
Weird that you know better than the Ukrainians what is good for the Ukrainians.
I'm not shifting anything I've had the same opinion since the war started. The US shouldn't be involved.
If the west doesn't prop up Ukraine Russia wins fairly quickly and the status quo in Ukraine is back to normal. Life under corrupt Russians isn't much different than life under corrupt Ukrainians.
Giving Ukraine weapons and endless aid has dragged the war our for what will probably be years now and is just resulting in the destruction of 20% of Ukraine.
The west is using Ukrainian blood to have a proxy war with Russia. The west doesn't give a damn about Ukraine.
When the issue is your stupid assertion that ""it was bad for Ukraine that the west was willing to send weapons," it is the definition of deflecting/moving goal posts to defend that stupid assertion by raising irrelevant issues about America's debt, Russia being Europe's problem, and Russia being a failed state.
On this, your third try at it, you seem to now be saying that it is bad for Ukraine to have weapons to fight off Russia's invasion because, you wildly speculate, Ukrainians are too misguided and/or misinformed (i.e., dumb) to realize that quickly losing the war and being conquered by Russians is actually better for them than being ruled by their own politicians. Again, the judgment of Ukrainians as to whether and when they are better off is FAR more informed than your judgment. Are you really so narcissistic and pompous that think you know better than the Ukrainians who are risking their lives fighting Russian invaders as to what is best for them? I don't think Russian state TV talk shows have even tried out that demented spin. You are one weird banana.
Why is it so hard for you to understand that there's more than one variable?
When you're spending tens of billions of dollars on a war that provides ZERO benefit to your own country the national debt isn't irrelevant.
When your country derives ZERO benefit and has ZERO vested interest in any outcome of a war it isn't irrelevant to point out that the people who do (Europe) should be the ones paying the bill.
Russia is a failed state. They are ZERO threat to America. They have no naval power and their military has been proven to be harmless by fat untrained Ukrainians. They're economically insignificant.
I DO NOT CARE what the Ukrainians think about anything. I simply do not want to pay for it.
This clean victory you think is coming isn't coming...
Carmine definitely takes the cake as the biggest nutjob poster on the board. He makes the other Putin fanboys almost seem rational. Almost.
Hey, since People are saying Historical Hero's are Villains (Examples Columbus, George Washington, Thomas Jefferson And tearing their Statue's down) I figured why not be in with the in crowd (That was a song, I'm in with the in crowd, I know where the ladies dance, was early 1970's I think) Then doesn't it make sense to make the Villains Heroes? And start putting up statues of Idi Amin, Pol Pot, Lenin (They have a Statue of Lenin in Seattle already) We can be like The Bizarro in the Superman Comics, where good is bad, bad is good, wrong is right, right is wrong etc. but it is true there is good in bad people and bad in good people and it can be very confusing, Oh yeah I stand by my statementHitler was a good painter, not as good as Hunter Biden who gets Hundreds of Thousands for his painting skill, but he was good
It's a Dobie Gray song from 1965, Douglas Burke. Your personal theme song "They're Coming To Take Me Away, Ha-Haaa" was released the next year by Napoleon XIV. You need to do more acid if you think Hitler was a good painter in his pastel period. Superman never made any money saving the world from Solomon Grundy.
When the issue is your stupid assertion that ""it was bad for Ukraine that the west was willing to send weapons," it is the definition of deflecting/moving goal posts to defend that stupid assertion by raising irrelevant issues about America's debt, Russia being Europe's problem, and Russia being a failed state.
On this, your third try at it, you seem to now be saying that it is bad for Ukraine to have weapons to fight off Russia's invasion because, you wildly speculate, Ukrainians are too misguided and/or misinformed (i.e., dumb) to realize that quickly losing the war and being conquered by Russians is actually better for them than being ruled by their own politicians. Again, the judgment of Ukrainians as to whether and when they are better off is FAR more informed than your judgment. Are you really so narcissistic and pompous that think you know better than the Ukrainians who are risking their lives fighting Russian invaders as to what is best for them? I don't think Russian state TV talk shows have even tried out that demented spin. You are one weird banana.
Why is it so hard for you to understand that there's more than one variable?
When you're spending tens of billions of dollars on a war that provides ZERO benefit to your own country the national debt isn't irrelevant.
When your country derives ZERO benefit and has ZERO vested interest in any outcome of a war it isn't irrelevant to point out that the people who do (Europe) should be the ones paying the bill.
Russia is a failed state. They are ZERO threat to America. They have no naval power and their military has been proven to be harmless by fat untrained Ukrainians. They're economically insignificant.
I DO NOT CARE what the Ukrainians think about anything. I simply do not want to pay for it.
This clean victory you think is coming isn't coming...
Start with an obvious deflection, emphatically state three irrelevant points in an attempt to pretend those are the issue, and end with the usual strawman ("clean victory you think is coming").
I think I outlined your formula correctly. You're a parody of yourself at this point.
Why is it so hard for you to understand that there's more than one variable?
When you're spending tens of billions of dollars on a war that provides ZERO benefit to your own country the national debt isn't irrelevant.
When your country derives ZERO benefit and has ZERO vested interest in any outcome of a war it isn't irrelevant to point out that the people who do (Europe) should be the ones paying the bill.
Russia is a failed state. They are ZERO threat to America. They have no naval power and their military has been proven to be harmless by fat untrained Ukrainians. They're economically insignificant.
I DO NOT CARE what the Ukrainians think about anything. I simply do not want to pay for it.
This clean victory you think is coming isn't coming...
Start with an obvious deflection, emphatically state three irrelevant points in an attempt to pretend those are the issue, and end with the usual strawman ("clean victory you think is coming").
I think I outlined your formula correctly. You're a parody of yourself at this point.
You inability to see the big picture has you thinking simple logic is "deflection"...
You can't comprehend anything beyond "Russia bad".
Start with an obvious deflection, emphatically state three irrelevant points in an attempt to pretend those are the issue, and end with the usual strawman ("clean victory you think is coming").
I think I outlined your formula correctly. You're a parody of yourself at this point.
You inability to see the big picture has you thinking simple logic is "deflection"...
You can't comprehend anything beyond "Russia bad".
You can't comprehend your own posts. I'm asking you for the big picture, and every single factor, rationale and support you have for your glaringly stupid statement that "it was bad for Ukraine that the west was willing to send weapons." The only thing you can come up with big picture-wise on that is that Ukrainians are, in your opinion, too misguided and uninformed to know that they are better off losing the war quickly and being conquered and occupied by invading Russians than being ruled by their own politicians. I've already said what that "simple logic" says about you.
You inability to see the big picture has you thinking simple logic is "deflection"...
You can't comprehend anything beyond "Russia bad".
You can't comprehend your own posts. I'm asking you for the big picture, and every single factor, rationale and support you have for your glaringly stupid statement that "it was bad for Ukraine that the west was willing to send weapons." The only thing you can come up with big picture-wise on that is that Ukrainians are, in your opinion, too misguided and uninformed to know that they are better off losing the war quickly and being conquered and occupied by invading Russians than being ruled by their own politicians. I've already said what that "simple logic" says about you.
Bottom line is Putin will be shown to be the loser he is and hopefully he will be done in Russia, that right there is why we need to do whatever it takes to see Ukraine wins this. Putin must go;
As we are seeing Ukraine is winning this and will be taking the Championship belt when this is over, all Russia gained was 800 miles of NATO on their border.
I had no idea Russia was this bad at fighting, hell they couldn't take Fresno.
You can't comprehend your own posts. I'm asking you for the big picture, and every single factor, rationale and support you have for your glaringly stupid statement that "it was bad for Ukraine that the west was willing to send weapons." The only thing you can come up with big picture-wise on that is that Ukrainians are, in your opinion, too misguided and uninformed to know that they are better off losing the war quickly and being conquered and occupied by invading Russians than being ruled by their own politicians. I've already said what that "simple logic" says about you.
You're still not understanding how this ends...
Oh, you're moving again. Wise choice. Well, unlike you and your creepy friend Lolly, I've never claimed to know the unknowable with the 100% certitude you've expressed regarding how "this" ends.
What's your latest guarantee as to how the Russian invasion of Ukraine ends? 8 months tops?
Oh, you're moving again. Wise choice. Well, unlike you and your creepy friend Lolly, I've never claimed to know the unknowable with the 100% certitude you've expressed regarding how "this" ends.
What's your latest guarantee as to how the Russian invasion of Ukraine ends? 8 months tops?
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