trollism wrote:
Jon Orange wrote:No, I don't accept any such thing. You're making stuff up again.
Read it again genius.
I said that you don't accept this roundly accepted fact so therefore you're a crazy person.
Marita Koch didn't benefit from steroids? Crazy person Jon.
Your writing style needs some work. As for your opinions about drugs and training, you have no interest in learning. I do.
I'm not the crazy person. I see the stupidity and the ignorance, you just lap it up.
ukathleticscoach wrote:
It's not what Renato thinks its what the runners inclined to cheat think. If they think it will work they will take it
True. And this is a real problem. But what is the source of that belief? Who told them what to take.
They are just young people being brainwashed by the latest drug fad. Then the fad grows until everyone believes that this new drug is the Emperor's new clothes.
Jon Orange wrote:
trollism wrote:Read it again genius.
I said that you don't accept this roundly accepted fact so therefore you're a crazy person.
Marita Koch didn't benefit from steroids? Crazy person Jon.
Your writing style needs some work. As for your opinions about drugs and training, you have no interest in learning. I do.
I'm not the crazy person. I see the stupidity and the ignorance, you just lap it up.
So the fact that Koch was essentially a man didn't benefit her?
You never seem to answer this question.
Cuckoo.
I did answer that question. You have forgotten. You seem rather obsessed with this.
I told you that speed is natural and that her female genetics limited her top speed. So she was 10% slower than the men. Without the extra steroid bulk, she would have been even faster.
How many times do I have to say it? How many times are you going to return to this same argument? Asking me the same questions expecting me to agree with you?
Jon Orange wrote:
I told you that speed is natural and that her female genetics limited her top speed. So she was 10% slower than the men. Without the extra steroid bulk, she would have been even faster.
She would have been faster without steroids?
It gets funnier every time you say it.
Yes, under guidance of a coach like Clyde Hart, she would have been faster without steroids.
Jon Orange wrote:
Yes, under guidance of a coach like Clyde Hart, she would have been faster without steroids.
So what you're saying is that the East Germans had really good coaches, (not as good as Clyde Hart, but better than perhaps the coaches of a lot of the women today.)
The state-sponsored steroid thing made absolutely zero difference to their performance levels?
They seemed to be very good at women's events and sports that require a degree of power too. Massive coincidence there? You would think the brilliant coaching would transfer to other, less power dependent sports (and of course male events.)
Why don't you write a book about it?