It's incredible that you could run sub 26 on workouts like that, around 5:15 mile repeats on 3:00 rest, or 22-22:20 4M tempo. Congratulations! I wish that I raced better than my workouts the way you do.
It's incredible that you could run sub 26 on workouts like that, around 5:15 mile repeats on 3:00 rest, or 22-22:20 4M tempo. Congratulations! I wish that I raced better than my workouts the way you do.
jjjjjjj I'm assuming you'r talking to me? If so, thanks. I was nervous going into the race but just tried to stay strong through it because sub 26 was what I really wanted to open up the the season in. It was a fast course that I ran on though. I think I've always been able to race a bit better than I workout.
I hope I can go 25 low by the end of the season but I'm not sure how many fast opportunities I have. I think I am competing again next week so I'll have another good update. My training has been ok but I haven't been eating all that great still. Really gotta make some changes there and be more healthy as I feel it's impacting how I feel for workouts
Today i ran 10.87 miles solo @7:15 pace. Last two miles were sub 7. I would also get another sub 7 mile if i was able to run the .13. My .87 was 6:11.
I've been doing core and swimming as well. May race this saturday depending im in or not. Even if im in, i plan to train through it.
Plan to do 8-10 1ks on wednesday
Just out of curiosity, why do you run the last few miles at a faster pace. What kind of run is this?
Its my long run. Went from 7:57 and then kept going faster at almost each mile. I know i should be doing more than 11 miles but i just got back from injury.
letsdoit, just being honest but your training isn't at all indicative of anywhere close to a 26:00 8k time. you're free to post of course, but a 10 miler at 7:15 pace and going sub 7 your last 2 miles is really not noteworthy. thats an easy run for the majority of posters and basically a run that you would do between workout days.
not trying to be that guy, just kinda feel like your posts are clogging up the thread and its kinda boring to read what your training is just cus its not the level that the title of this thread is about
Well one im going SOLO and its hella tough to go very fast by yourself. I do have one person to train with but i only meet him on interval or tempo days. Two im returning from injury. Yes i agree thats going easy pace, but I probably would get injured again if I had more 6 min miles.
I'm not trying to go for sub 26 since I got injured. I might have a chance if I didnt get injured. My focus at the moment is REGAINING MY SPOT BACK. In order to do that, my best chance is getting in that 26:00-26:30 range at best. Who knows maybe i might get on with something slower but at least 26 something.
I know i can do something in the 26s. My track times (4:11 1500) and the training I did show I can do something like that.
Because of my injury, i was close to calling it off. But now that i can train, why not give it a shot especially when I know I have room to improve. Since i plan on going to grad school and use my final yr of eligibility there, i gotta improve my credentials unless I go to a good D3 school.
I'm not gonna give a f*** about you not liking what i do. Im just doing this for fun. Cant tell me what to do, boss me around. As i mentioned before, it will get better each day.
I have a training set up for the next couple weeks. Yes it crash course. If you want to see it, let me know maybe u can put ur input.
If this was track season or the injury occurred a little earlier, then i wouldn't worry too much. Im injury prone but after i get injured, running gets better like i had plantar fasciitis during track season. It was tough getting back in shape and as a result i ran 4:11 end of season. Now that im cross training and rehabbing hard, i know now what to do in the event i get injured.
Also i dont give up unless I SAY. Keep in mind that I'm not saying todays run indicate im in 25 shape. Its a step which my fitness is getting better! Im also the person who likes to make a good story and inspire others.
In fact, I went through a lot to get to where I am today. Im not gonna go into detail unless u ask. So my knowledge in running is decent but can get better. Hopefully i learn more so it will help in the future.
Final post before i get questions or comments.
Getting my spot back is really important to me as i mentioned before. I wasnt on the team freshman year which is a huge mistake. Being on the team the last 2 years was the best yrs of my life and the decision i wont regret. Im fortunate to get the opportunity to regain my spot back and its worth something to pursue. Being off the team feels little depressing. I know I have so much room to improve after track season. Im capable of improving my 400, 800 and 8k time. Improving those times can help my 1500. How am i gonna do it? Well i need to do it with the guys i started with and want to finish my undergrad career with. Therefore i need to get my spot back and train hard.
If i dont get it, then i would still be happy knowing i tried. Ill just take a few weeks to think my future and go from there. If that happens ill post another thread about it.
Also i was in 27:39 shape before i got injured. That 28:43 8k was likely because of slow course and my calf.
good on you for having a positive attitude. dont justify yourself to me, you dont have to prove anything obviously. and im free to voice my opinion at all. keep at it, good for you..guess i shouldve expected a defensive response so fair enough. im simply saying that its a bit boring and rather "meh" to read about your current training just because its slow and not very relevant to the 25/26min 8k time range. and yes, i understand its because you're injured. im simply saying it somewhat clogs up the thread since its not that interesting to read about mediocre easy runs and the like. thats all ill say. if you continue to post in this thread so be it, obviously you have the right to. i just feel its a bit out of place
i respect your opinion as well and I understand your point. Therefore its all good.
Now about your response...
I can't go run paces of 25-26 8k the minute I get off injury. As I keep mentioning many times: IT WILL GET BETTER EACH F***ING DAY!! Now don't make me mention that again. And I will do my role of getting closer to running the paces of 25-26 8k.
I understand you dont like it, but just bear with it. I have few more weeks left of training. Today's run was a step forward to my goals.. can't take huge steps. Also in terms of my paces, I dont try to go too fast each day. I've seen people do that and as a result they dont do well. My training will get interesting later on. Stay tuned to Wednesday.
just being real: while he may not be in sub 26 shape you're comments are rude. If you don't want to read his posts don't. You can skip reading them.
Last 2 days:
- 14 miles
- 8.7 miles easy
Hey THGF,
Thanks for sticking up for me!
In return, Ill get in that shape quick ;) Well hopefully...ahaha
Good stuff.
he can post if he wants, just skip his posts if you want.
solo, it's funny that the poster said he was surprised your an under 26 with tempos in 22-22:20 and mile repeats at 5:15, but those are exactly what i would expect a 26:00 runner to run.
bit late on posting, but this was my last week:
last 6 weeks:
70-80-80-87-80-*81*
M 8 easy
T 9.5 w/ 2mi tempo, 8x400, 1mi hard
W 8 easy
Th 7 easy, 8 easy
F 9 w/ 16x(1min on/off), 5 easy
Sa 6 easy, 5 easy
Su 15, 7:30s out, 7:00s back
total 81, 7:08/mi avg
tue: easy workout but not feeling great. did 11:20 for the 2 miles, 78ish for the 400s (on grass) and 5:03ish for the mile on the roads
fri: easy fartlek. maybe 5:10 pace for the on segments
this week's mileage will probably be 80-85 again. school starts up again this week as well, so who knows how that will impact my training.
had a good workout today. 5x1mi on road/dirt path in 5:10.5 average, but I started really slow.
5:21, 5:18, 5:13, 5:06, 4:53.
the last one was technically a mile PR.
3min jogging recoveries, which is what our club has always done. 3min is too much for me, but i always do 3min so i can compare workouts over the seasons.
probably could've dropped 4:45 on the last one, but I didn't want to blow it out.
I may be racing a 10k on sunday. after this workout I know I could run under 5:20/mi, but I plan to run 5:20s most of the way, or at least the first 5k. 33:00 is 5:19/mi so I guess that's the goal.
YTD: 2575mi, 66.5 mpw
Sept: 329.9mi with 2 days to go, could be all-time PR
M 6.5, 5
T 11 w/ 5x1mi getting faster
W 12.3
Th 9 feeling good
F 11.6 easy
Sa 6, 5
Su 15.4 w/ 10k race and 7mi cooldown
total 81.4, 6:58/mi avg
tues: 5:21-5:18-5:13-5:06-4:53. 3min rec. easy workout, felt better as we went. shouldve started faster
the 4:53 is a mile PR
sun: 10k race, pretty flat. ran 33:29.9 for 6th place. 5th was 32:25ish and 7th was 34:30ish, so I ran alone. pretty good splits, 16:51-16:39. road PR but not as fast as track 10k pr. ran a 7mi cooldown to make it into a long run
probably couldve run 33 flat with some competition
Try Hard Go Far wrote:
biz man: Thank you. I hope your son is having also having a successful d1 track/xc career.
The majority of coaches aren't good at recruiting. Saying I have a chip on shoulder would be a massive understatement. It's more like a boulder.
D1 recruiting is a joke. I was not an elite hs runner, nor am I advocating or saying that I should have been widely or heavily recruited. But it just blows my mind how transactional the recruiting is. How fast did you run, is all the coaches care about. It doesn't matter if you're 17 or 19 years old your senior year. It doesn't matter if you look like you're 12 or if you look like a 30 year old man. It doesn't matter if you run 45mpw (which is what I ran as a junior) or 75mpw. It doesn't matter if you're coach never was a distance runner (he sprinted in hs), or whether you live in Wisconsin or New Jersey.
I think it's funny when a top d1 school gets an elite hs runner and he doesn't improve in college or doesn't do as well as expected. A recent example is Bernie Montoya. Why hasn't he come close to the 4:01 he ran jr year of hs? Probably because he was training at almost a professional level running 100mpw in hs. On the opposite side of the spectrum is Sam Penzenstadler. Sam finished 3rd in the 1500 at NCAA's with a time of 3:39. He runs at Loyola, the only D1 SCHOOL THAT EVEN RECRUITED HIM. He ran 4:18 and 1:57 as a senior. Another example, Cam Levins.
I'm out to prove that a guy who ran 4:22 in hs (as a junior, hurt at the end of senior year) can claw and scratch his way up to the top of NCAA D1 track and field. That's what drives me day in and day out. Okay rant over haha.
FWIW, my son IS having a successful career so far. He walked on a D1 program that qualified for Nats last year. Didn't get a sniff from D1 coaches as a Jr. Now he's about 9th or 10th of 16 distance runners on the team (that includes upperclassmen).
He was a lower mileage kid who started late and didn't get great track coaching. He ramped his mileage this summer and is now getting excellent coaching.
I'm not bragging about my son (well, maybe I am), just making the point that there are great athletes out there if you just look.
And THGF, he's got a similar determination to prove himself that you do. I'm rooting for him and I'm rooting for all of you guys, too.
reed wrote:
YTD: 2575mi, 66.5 mpw
Sept: 329.9mi with 2 days to go, could be all-time PR
M 6.5, 5
T 11 w/ 5x1mi getting faster
W 12.3
Th 9 feeling good
F 11.6 easy
Sa 6, 5
Su 15.4 w/ 10k race and 7mi cooldown
total 81.4, 6:58/mi avg
tues: 5:21-5:18-5:13-5:06-4:53. 3min rec. easy workout, felt better as we went. shouldve started faster
the 4:53 is a mile PR
sun: 10k race, pretty flat. ran 33:29.9 for 6th place. 5th was 32:25ish and 7th was 34:30ish, so I ran alone. pretty good splits, 16:51-16:39. road PR but not as fast as track 10k pr. ran a 7mi cooldown to make it into a long run
probably couldve run 33 flat with some competition
Could'a Would'a Should'a
bumping this thread
Anyone racing today or tomorrow?