Susan Komen cuts off funding for criminal organization Planned Parenthood.

Milerpho wrote:

I, for one, believe that we do have souls. I believe a fetus has a soul, as do millions of other people in our country.

I believe only white people have souls. So, abortions of non-white fetuses at any stage should be legal.

Elle oh Elle wrote:

Yes, because atheists never use intellectualism as a tool to belittle religion.

GTFO.

Okay. I don't see what that has to do with what I was pointing out, though.

In case you're confused, I was referring to this exchange:

[quote] Hate to break it to you wrote:

For all we know, your master's degree is in Creationism from Conservative Christian U.[quote/]

[quote] 3rdcoaster wrote:

As opposed to lefty's degree in 19th Century French Poetry. I love stereotypes![quote/]

joedirt wrote:

I find it ironic that Komen ever gave PP funding in the first place considering that use of oral contraceptives increases a young woman's risk for breast cancer by about 40%. Maybe PP should start hosting races with black t-shirts and call it "Race for the Cause". Just my 2 cents.

Well either 40% or, you know, zero. Try not to tell such ridiculous lies in the future.

"The findings of the Women’s Contraceptive and Reproductive Experiences (Women’s CARE) study were in contrast to those described above. The Women’s CARE study examined the use of OCs as a risk factor for breast cancer in women ages 35 to 64. Researchers interviewed 4,575 women who were diagnosed with breast cancer between 1994 and 1998, and 4,682 women who did not have breast cancer. Investigators collected detailed information about the participants’ use of OCs, reproductive history, health, and family history. The results, which were published in 2002, indicated that current or former use of OCs did not significantly increase the risk of breast cancer. The findings were similar for white and black women. Factors such as longer periods of use, higher doses of estrogen, initiation of OC use before age 20, and OC use by women with a family history of breast cancer were not associated with an increased risk of the disease (3)."

Planned Parenthood is the only clinic available and affordable for hundreds of thousands, if not millions of women, and far more than 99 percent of its work has nothing to do with abortions and everything to do with women's health. They stop the spread of STD's and treat the male partner as well. Physical breast exams (!) are always the first option prior to mammograms. What nonsense! And Susan G. Komen fan is a tremendous money-maker but does not treat anyone. They finance research while Planned Parenthood does great good for all of society. This was a politically-motivated and extremely foolish move on Komen's part. They are so bad that they don't even record times in many of their over-priced "races."

roe wade fixed wrote:

Abortion should be ENDED on one condition.

Everybody that registers to vote has to declare if they are FOR or AGAINST abortion.

All those AGAINST get put on a list. When the next unwanted baby comes up, it goes right to whoever is at the top of the list and they are solely responsible financially from that point on as if it was their own.

Now let's see who really wants to step up and back their "beliefs".

Well, actually - the way it is now, whichever declaration you make, we're (excuse me, those of us who pay taxes) responsible financially from that point on. AFDC, SNAP, WICs, Medicaid, free lunch, free breakfast, education, and judicial system.

Soul train wrote:

Milerpho wrote:

I, for one, believe that we do have souls. I believe a fetus has a soul, as do millions of other people in our country.

I believe only white people have souls. So, abortions of non-white fetuses at any stage should be legal.

Well, I believe that the soul does not enter the body until age 5. Therefore, fetuses under 5 years old, or "day-walkers", may be "aborted".

abortion = clipping a fingernail

Oh, yeah. Let's get that spelling correct, now. They might not accept their donation otherwise. Why do morons worry about somebody's spelling. Sheez, get a real life will ya??!!

it figures that you would support cutting off abortion rights and support cutting aid to Planned Parenthood, whose programs of contraception radically reduce abortion rates. And then Republicans never want society to help pay for living children.

I hate planned abortion and all their stupid supporters. Those murderers should have to watch one of those later term abortions for themselves and hold that dead murdered baby in their arms...then let's see if they so pro abortion.

Freelove is correct in that, officially, contraceptives are not listed as a cause of breast cancer.

However the number of studies which have shown links between abortion and breast cancer would, at best, strain the relationship between PP and SGK. Kinda makes the whole situation sketchy. Again, officially in the scientific community, abortion is not a cause either, but there have been quite a few studies suggest that that are strongly coorelated (obviously, more the other way), and the fact that those exist at all would make the PP-SGK relationship kinda awkward...

not true and many times debunkedanyway..it's not your body so why would you care? do i care if you cut your hair? or take a dump?

Captain Tenneal wrote:

Freelove is correct in that, officially, contraceptives are not listed as a cause of breast cancer.

However the number of studies which have shown links between abortion and breast cancer would, at best, strain the relationship between PP and SGK. Kinda makes the whole situation sketchy. Again, officially in the scientific community, abortion is not a cause either, but there have been quite a few studies suggest that that are strongly coorelated (obviously, more the other way), and the fact that those exist at all would make the PP-SGK relationship kinda awkward...

Just to clear up a few of the untruths from a medical perspective (I am an M.D. radiologist specializing in breast disease).

Oral contraceptives do not increase the risk of breast cancer.

Abortion does not increase the risk of breast cancer.

The Komen grant money given to Planned Parenthood does not pay for a physical breast exam. It pays for mammograms, ultrasounds, and breast biopsies (not something women can do on their own).

Look you child in the eye as your writing the check you misguided idiot.

What does any of this have to do with running? This isn't even fun trolling - it sounds like a 10th-grade Englis-class seminar!

coach d wrote:

I'll make my financial contribution to Planned Parenthood instead.

Hopefully they use the money on your not future grandchildren.

To bad they didn't have all this funding when your mother was pregnant.

MarathonMind wrote:

coach d wrote:

I'll make my financial contribution to Planned Parenthood instead.

Good choice. PP got $400,000 in the first 24 hours since the announcement.

74 left dive wrote:

not true and many times debunked

anyway..it's not your body so why would you care? do i care if you cut your hair? or take a dump?

Captain Tenneal wrote:

Freelove is correct in that, officially, contraceptives are not listed as a cause of breast cancer.

However the number of studies which have shown links between abortion and breast cancer would, at best, strain the relationship between PP and SGK. Kinda makes the whole situation sketchy. Again, officially in the scientific community, abortion is not a cause either, but there have been quite a few studies suggest that that are strongly coorelated (obviously, more the other way), and the fact that those exist at all would make the PP-SGK relationship kinda awkward...

So what are you saying has been debunked? Read the bold. We agreed, it is not officially a cause. You can not argue the existence of such studies though. And their mere existence would, as I said make the PP-SGK relationhip awkward.

Although in my opinion, none of this really has anything to do with women's rights, science, or what studies have proven or haven't proven...It's a money game. There are many doctors who make hundreds of thousands of $$ a year off abortions, and there are owners of clinics who make millions. It is a small, but important part of the "medical" industry. If the AMA or other medical associations came out against abortion, the amount of money that a lot of people made would go significantly down.

Open your eyes...the more and more science advances, the more and more is discovered about the fetus in the womb. You have a fetus with a functioning brain, heart, lungs, arms, legs, it moves, kicks, etc. The only difference between the fetus and a newborn is that a fetus is connected to its mother. It relies on support from its mom, but so does a newborn. How would a newborn feed itself without someone to do it? It wouldn't. It would starve to death and die. Same thing in the womb: Mother feeds it when the fetus is in the womb too. In both instances the entity is given food by the mother for survival, and relies on her for survival. The science against abortion is unbelievable and undeniable. There is no doubt that you are taking a living entity, which can grow into a human being, and terminating the life. Those are scientific facts, no way around them. We aren't in the dark ages of science anymore. Educate yourself, open your eyes and see the light.