hmmmm wrote:
PRE>VIREN
PRETZEL RODS>CHEESE
FOAM ROLLAR>HARRY POTTER AND THE CHAMBER OF SECRETS
Forsyth > Forys
GLRRRRRRRRRRRR this weekend!
hmmmm wrote:
PRE>VIREN
PRETZEL RODS>CHEESE
FOAM ROLLAR>HARRY POTTER AND THE CHAMBER OF SECRETS
Forsyth > Forys
GLRRRRRRRRRRRR this weekend!
Bobby Lockhart hasn't coached a squad but he has worked with the likes of Jerry Schumacher, Martin Smith and currently Dave Smith. Hes been part of winning programs and is use to winning so he knows what it takes to get there. I've only interacted with him a handful of times but he's a very likable person and hilarious. why not give a young coach a chance? he has proven to sign blue chip recruits consistently.
Beacause he has the maturity of a 12 year old. How many volunteer coaches brush elbows with great coaches and start to feel like they're playing a much bigger role in their development/success than they actually are? Almost all of them. It's a little different when your responsibilities become more than driving a van and holding backpacks while the runners warm-up!
king of the mountain wrote:
Bobby Lockhart hasn't coached a squad but he has worked with the likes of Jerry Schumacher, Martin Smith and currently Dave Smith. Hes been part of winning programs and is use to winning so he knows what it takes to get there. I've only interacted with him a handful of times but he's a very likable person and hilarious. why not give a young coach a chance? he has proven to sign blue chip recruits consistently.
He's a 25-26 year old who still hangs out with the kids on the team. He was a very successful junior who flopped in college and got into trouble with the law. No way is Michigan going to hand the "coaching" reigns to someone who still needs to grow up.
http://www.letsrun.com/forum/flat_read.php?thread=1134799&page=0I would doubt he hangs out with the kids on the team. Lockhart and Smith have a close relationship and there is no way that would fly under Smith. Lockhart didn't become an individual National Champion but he was a DI All-American twice and played a vital role in the successful Badger era. A team player, focused and driven. He's an excellent hire in my book.
olympic hopeful wrote:
Lockhart didn't become an individual National Champion but he was a DI All-American twice and played a vital role in the successful Badger era. A team player, focused and driven. He's an excellent hire in my book.
Not exactly. He wasn't on the team that won the National Championship, and a guy who's a 19 State Champion and multiple Foot Locker All-American should do better in college. Not mature enough.
http://www.dailycardinal.com/a-senior-runner-rsquo-s-fall-from-greatness-1.770059The Daily Cardinal
A senior runner’s fall from greatness
By Sam Pepper
Published: Wednesday, December 7, 2005
Updated: Wednesday, October 14, 2009
Everyone loves a great sports story. Tales of overcoming seemingly-impossible odds are enjoyable. Just think of Daniel E. ’Rudy’ Ruettiger. But some sports stories are not so magnificent. Those stories often tell accounts of potential that was not met and tragedy that ensued thereafter.
Unfortunately for senior cross-country and track team member Bobby Lockhart, his story has changed from the former to the latter.
In less than one month, Lockhart will appear in court to face charges of substantial battery with intended bodily harm, as well as disorderly conduct. According to WISC-TV, police reported that the senior threw an object at a 21-year-old woman, which then broke, requiring the victim to receive stitches.
Whether or not he is guilty of the charges that he will face at his Jan. 4 court date, those who have followed the career of Bobby Lockhart know where the 22-year-old has come from and know how far he’s fallen.
Back at John Handley High School, Lockhart was living a great sports story. Just look at the resume: 19-time state champion, four-time state indoor and outdoor champion at 1,600 and 3,200 meters and 2002 National Scholastic Champion at two miles.
’I just want to be the best I can be,’ Lockhart told the Running Times as he entered his senior year at Handley. ’But my ultimate goal is to be the best in the nation.’
Coaches at Wisconsin saw the makings of a star in Lockhart. They recruited the high school phenom after he continued his dominance in his final year before college. And he did not disappoint.
His freshman year as a Badger saw him finish third on the team and 21st overall in the cross country NCAA Championships’33 spots in front of Simon Bairu, now the team’s star. There was no surprise stemming from the performance of Lockhart, who defeated Chris Solinsky, often considered the heir to Bairu’s post as the Badger leader, in the Adidas Outside Classic just a year before.
Though his exemplary accomplishments continued throughout his freshman campaign, as the years went by there was no improvement. While most can blame injury for a lack of development, the excuse simply was not applicable to Lockhart. His star had simply peaked too early.
The Badgers recently won their first team cross country championship since 1988, breaking a string of three straight second place finishes, but where was Bobby Lockhart? In his senior year Lockhart failed to qualify for the race, after finishing 54th the year before. Bairu and Solinsky, who Lockhart had bested in races earlier in his career, hoisted the trophy in Terre Haute, Ind.
Three years ago, if you were to tell Bobby Lockhart that he would be arrested on the night of the party celebrating the Badgers’ victory that he had no part in winning, I doubt he would believe you.
’My client is a keeper,’ Lockhart’s attorney Ariana Cox said, ’and we look forward to our day in court.’
Maybe three years ago, Lockhart might have been a keeper with something to look forward to. Now, he is just a fading star.
Since obviously some of the kids on the Michigan team got in trouble recently (why else would Warhurst and Kaiser get pushed out simultaneously?), I would say Lockhart has a zero percent chance of getting this job with his own troubled past.
That's an article written by a a 20 year old student! Not living up to the hopes of a sports writer doesn't make him a bad candidate for a job. Seems like you are just looking to dis the guy.
You obviously have something against the guy otherwise you wouldn't keep posting s#it.
Kiwi's leaving to go back home.
The kiwis are leaving and more will probably matriculate with all the bad karma you could imagine after firing a legend like Ron
Lockhart drank too much and ran too little during his college career.
I am not judging him as a person. I did a lot of stupid things in college (as I'm sure a lot of us did) but was not a national caliber athlete and didn't get arrested so it did not get noticed.
He may already have those problems completely behind him, but when you have that kind of a past sometimes it takes a few years and a few more accomplishments to convince somebody to give you a chance, especially at a bigger job like Michigan. He might make a fine coach one day, I hope he does.
Lloyd Carr was pushed out also today....... of his cushy fake administrator job. This comes as no shock along with the recent firings of Warhurst and Kaiser. Carr planned to keep this cake job with good money for life. The new AD Brandon is kicking ass and taking names and is determined to improve the entire athletic department by clearing out the 'good old boy' network.
You are judging him as a person. I am friends with him and know many of the former badger runners. I know for a fact that the team didn't drink during the seasons ever. You obviously don't know the guy so quit making crap up. It's sad to see people who never made anything of themselves in the running world critique people who are accomplished. Being part of the great Wisco teams with Schumacher and having one of the best assistant jobs in the country doesn't just happen. Grow up because Bobby has always busted his ass to do well.
Michigan is a great school with a great history for cross country success. There has to be some serious interest from established coaches for this position. It is a real shame, and in my opinion a real mistake, if this job goes to someone that has never run their own program.
Being an assistant at Oklahoma State hasn't prepared Lockhart for a job like this. Oklahoma State is a distance only team with about 10 full-rides in distance runners and has no ambition to field a competitive track team. That type of apprenticeship would have you more prepared to take over a team like Portland, Providence or Butler.
experience please wrote:
It is a real shame, and in my opinion a real mistake, if this job goes to someone that has never run their own program.
Quick history of MI cross country before the Ronnie W era: Wolverine cross was a club, yes, a club sport until Fall '72 when it went varsity. Dixon Farmer coached UMich before RW. Ron was a grad assist @ EMU in the mid 60s, then a Huron volunteer coach a year or so around '70/'71. After that he roomed up w/his former WMU teammate, Mike Hazilla & did some decent running of his own. He hung around UMich, and was working for the U when he got the UMich coaching job. I'm sure Bob Parks put in a good word for him & Jack Harvey was likely familiar w/Ron.
The background above is minus a head coaching or even assist coaching cap. Did he know his stuff and connect w/all the guys he knew & worked with? Yes, and he kept up w/developments in the sport plus used his & MHazilla's experiences to craft his own version of what to do & how to do it. Hazilla was the 3rd American to break 2:20 in the marathon.
That is an interesting story, but it's not 1974 anymore. You can't hire a guy off someone's couch with no experience.
I don't know Lockhart but I remember Jerry Schumacher being hired after being a GA for a few years and then an assistant at North Carolina. I believe he was 27 or 28 years old. I was pretty surprised they went for someone with no head coaching experience but it seemed to turn out pretty good.
There are lot of good coaches out there. It seems the young ones with the right support (proven they are mature and organized) end up beating most of the old timers these days anyway.
George Webbs wrote:
I don't know Lockhart but I remember Jerry Schumacher being hired after being a GA for a few years and then an assistant at North Carolina. I believe he was 27 or 28 years old. I was pretty surprised they went for someone with no head coaching experience but it seemed to turn out pretty good.
There are lot of good coaches out there. It seems the young ones with the right support (proven they are mature and organized) end up beating most of the old timers these days anyway.
He wasn't the head track coach at Wisconsin just head cross country, same position he had at UNC. His first lead distance coach job was at UNC, which was a good starting place for a rising GA because the team stunk and Craddock didn't care about it.
Obviously everyone has to have their first full-time or head job sometime, but the progression should be something like: GA, assistant cross/distance, head cross/assistant track, head track. I don't think you can assume someone can run their own distance program because they assisted a successful head distance coach.
Same way in football it is usually GA, position coach, coordinator, head coach. You would never see Michigan football hire another school (even UF's) tight end coach to replace RichRod.
In reality, the decision belongs solely to U of M's new AD Brandon, who was a former CEO of Dominoes Pizza and a football player for Bo Schembechler. So he will choose whoever he wants. It will most likely be Fred Laplante because he isn't pissed at him like he was at Ron and Kaiser. Also, he will save money because Fred is already on staff as the head track coach. This is sad because Ron brought Fred in. Oh well, something similar happened not too far away recently at EMU....... Brandon has wasted a ton of money on Football and RichRod who he might have to fire this year and buyout his current contract at UofM and his former one from the lawsuit at WVU. Cross country isn't high on his priority list. Fred will hire an assistant or two to help in track, but it won't be for a ton of money.
In short, NO ONE has a chance to be the next head cross coach so everyone can just relax I guess!