xc runner and current wrestler wrote:
I have an ex-teammate who is a current navy seal. He has told me that their training is nothing compared to our high school practices. High school practices.
Lol sorry but this is retarted. Like the guy above me said, send verification. No way in hell that any SEAL would say that. Also by "training", did you mean buds?
As a runner who has no first-hand experience in wrestling, and hasn't even been to a match, since we didn't have wrestling teams in my school, two opinions stand out to me:
My high school coach grew up running cross in the fall and wrestling in the spring, and he always said wrestling was harder because every workout was totally intense and had the anaerobic burn, unlike running. He told me "Don't ever let anyone tell you running a marathon is hard" (worth noting that this was a guy who didn't believe in easy aerobic conditioning, and would race his guts out back in the day).
A college teammate of mine who had been a champion wrestler in high school insisted that cross country was harder than wrestling. This guy was the most intimidating runner I've ever known, because he was extremely muscular, and seemed to run off a mixture of pure hate and merciless tactical maneuvers. Everything was a race, and he was always breaking away at random times, then maintaining his lead when you thought there was no way he was fit enough to keep up the pace he'd just set.
If you think wrestling is harder then you're not pushing yourself hard enough in running/racing.
I would gladly wrestle 5 people before facing the pain of of a pure hate 800 or a fast mile.
Wrestling is certainly more unpleasant.
If that's your definition of "harder."
Wilkommen wrote:
If you think wrestling is harder then you're not pushing yourself hard enough in running/racing.
I would gladly wrestle 5 people before facing the pain of of a pure hate 800 or a fast mile.
Also all my friends were wrestlers and some were really good, and I would practice with the wrestling team in the mornings when they would condition. I would beat them easily in conditioning and I would wrestle my friends and I could beat all the guys who didn't make it to the state meet. And one wrestlers who was a runner up in the PA state meet (the hardest wrestling state) can't keep up with me when we hike mountains.
I played basketball and I regret not wrestling.
xc runner and current wrestler wrote:
I have an ex-teammate who is a current navy seal. He has told me that their training is nothing compared to our high school practices. High school practices. Imagine what college is like.
*facepalm. Wrestling is tough but it doesn't have 80% drop rate.
Yes.
I never wrestled, but I'd say that is definitely harder, based on how the wrestlers at my school looked immediately following practice. My school's wrestling coach actually really wanted me to go out for wrestling my junior year because I could cut down to 103 and score tons of forfeit points. I declined because I was already skinny and didn't want to deal with cutting weight.
Overall, it's wrestling by far. In cross country, over 50% of your mileage is pretty easy. In wrestling, it's like you're doing intense speedwork every single day. Maybe in competitions, they can be somewhat close, but day-to-day, it's not close.
Wilkommen wrote:
If you think wrestling is harder then you're not pushing yourself hard enough in running/racing.
I would gladly wrestle 5 people before facing the pain of of a pure hate 800 or a fast mile.
You don't get your ass beaten in a fast mile.
xc runner and current wrestler wrote:
I have an ex-teammate who is a current navy seal. He has told me that their training is nothing compared to our high school practices. High school practices. Imagine what college is like.
LOL this made me die of laughter. College wrestling and buds can't even compare much less high school. Also funny how you make up your fake navy seals.
I would like to see you prove that you are for real.
split decision wrote:
Bottom line is, whatever you enjoy more will be easier for you but you will tell people it is harder than what they do. Most likely because you put more work in because you are more driven.
Its all relative
Sifted through all the drivel to find the gem. Your welcome.
Good boy wrote:
Wilkommen wrote:If you think wrestling is harder then you're not pushing yourself hard enough in running/racing.
I would gladly wrestle 5 people before facing the pain of of a pure hate 800 or a fast mile.
You don't get your ass beaten in a fast mile.
No but your heart will be beating out of your chest and you'll likely puke your guts out. I've never seen a wrestler puke after a match. Also there are a lot of breaks to catch your breath in a wrestling match. No such breaks in a race.
Wilkommen wrote:
Good boy wrote:You don't get your ass beaten in a fast mile.
No but your heart will be beating out of your chest and you'll likely puke your guts out. I've never seen a wrestler puke after a match. Also there are a lot of breaks to catch your breath in a wrestling match. No such breaks in a race.
Running is without a doubt more painful
Wilkommen wrote:
Wilkommen wrote:No but your heart will be beating out of your chest and you'll likely puke your guts out. I've never seen a wrestler puke after a match. Also there are a lot of breaks to catch your breath in a wrestling match. No such breaks in a race.
Running is without a doubt more painful
+1. The goal of running is to run the fastest which is inherently painful. The goal of wrestling is to cause pain to your opponent. Which sport is more masochistic?
McCafe wrote:
I've been wrestling for ywo years now, and some of my friends say cross country is harder than wrestling but i disagree. We have to run alot during practice too, and we lift alot too. what do you think?
XC is a tough sport, but wrestling may have it beat. I wrestled for a couple of weeks, primarily just hanging out with my brother. I only had one match, it was an intersquad match and what I can tell you is your arms feel like you just finished doing your last rep of bench presses and the 3rd lap of a mile at the same time. Granted I was told its gets better when your skills improve and you learn you to manage your effort. Btw, my brother went on to get a D1 scholarship with me spending years as his practice dummy which was no fun either, but in return he would run with me when he was trying to make weight. Oh, I forgot to mention, imagine being a 15 year old not being able eat what you want.
xc runner and current wrestler wrote:
First off, let me say that I was extremely successful in both sports. I won state titles in Division 1 (big schools) wrestling and D1 xc in Michigan. I'm now currently a collegiate wrestler for a Big Ten (the powerhouse wrestling conference) school. I love xc, and I love wrestling. But this debate is ridiculous.
You comparing different weight classes to guys that run different times is completely inaccurate. Different weight classes would be like comparing a sprinter to a distance runner. Lightweight wrestlers wrestle entirely different than heavyweights. Middleweights have to succeed where lightweights and heavyweights are experts.
How about the fact that there are 14 weight classes for high school wrestling, and just one race for xc runners? Well keep in mind that as you guy up in the ranks in wrestling, the weight classes get larger. Two years ago I competed in a tournament that had over 160 wrestlers in ONE weight class.
In wrestling, there is no rest time (apart from break in the periods, or going out of bounds). In xc, you can let up for half a second to regain your composure before making the final push.
I have an ex-teammate who is a current navy seal. He has told me that their training is nothing compared to our high school practices. High school practices. Imagine what college is like. Wrestling tests you mentally like no other sport can. There is something about going toe to toe with another guy, who is trying inflict pain on you, and knowing that no matter what the result, it's all on you. And the entire crowd can see that. You have to own your losses in front of family and friends, just like you own your wins. Winning and losing is something that people universally understand, where as few people know the significance of 5 seconds of dropped time from your previous personal record in a race.
XC runners don't have to deal with the weight loss issue. Many of you have said that you know "plenty of elite wrestlers who don't cut weight." That is a flat out lie. As a collegiate wrestler, who has taken trips to the Olympic Training Center, I know for a FACT that elite wrestlers on all levels cut weight. Henry Cejudo, a 2008 Olympic Gold Medalist, was notorious for having issues with his weight. The kid was huge. And by huge, I mean muscular. He is in tremendous shape, with very little fat on his body. Sure, there are wrestlers that can have some success without cutting weight. But when you get to the upper echelons of the sport that is impossible to do. Nutrition is vital throughout the year.
Which brings me to my final point, there is no off season. Some of you have claimed that wrestlers are monsters during the season, but then let off in the off-season. On my team, we workout MORE in the off season since we don't have to worry so much about preserving our bodies for competition. Staying at a healthy weight year round is required as well. Yes, wrestlers "balloon up" in weight right after the season. But that weight becomes muscle in the off season, with many wrestlers entering the season 15 pounds over, with 6% body fat. Still think they are out of shape?
You're definitely right on most of these things. B
However, not all wrestlers cut weight. Some of the wrestlers at my high school cut weight. Secondly, I call BS when you say that you have an ex- teammate who is a navy seal. Lol if their training is nothing to hs practices, I guess that BUD/S is equivalent to MS wrestling? Bullshit. I did middle school wrestling and anybody can do it. HS is harder but it is nowhere near BUD/S.
McCafe wrote:
I've been wrestling for ywo years now, and some of my friends say cross country is harder than wrestling but i disagree. We have to run alot during practice too, and we lift alot too. what do you think?
If you said any other sport but wrestling I probably would have said XC. I've played all of the major sports except hockey and soccer, I would say XC is harder than all of those. I've boxed and wrestled a little bit and I would say both are harder than XC. I had twin brothers who boxed on my H.S. XC team, they only ran in a couple of early season meets, but they were running low 18s on a tough course with no summer running or a running background. 18 may not seem too fast for the LRC, but in my league the best guys only ran in the upper 16s. We would usually run at least 30 seconds faster on another course. And, we always had at least one wrestler on the team and they were usually pretty good runners as well.
xc runner and current wrestler wrote:
First off, let me say that I was extremely successful in both sports. I won state titles in Division 1 (big schools) wrestling and D1 xc in Michigan. I'm now currently a collegiate wrestler for a Big Ten (the powerhouse wrestling conference) school. I love xc, and I love wrestling. But this debate is ridiculous.
You comparing different weight classes to guys that run different times is completely inaccurate. Different weight classes would be like comparing a sprinter to a distance runner. Lightweight wrestlers wrestle entirely different than heavyweights. Middleweights have to succeed where lightweights and heavyweights are experts.
How about the fact that there are 14 weight classes for high school wrestling, and just one race for xc runners? Well keep in mind that as you guy up in the ranks in wrestling, the weight classes get larger. Two years ago I competed in a tournament that had over 160 wrestlers in ONE weight class.
In wrestling, there is no rest time (apart from break in the periods, or going out of bounds). In xc, you can let up for half a second to regain your composure before making the final push.
I have an ex-teammate who is a current navy seal. He has told me that their training is nothing compared to our high school practices. High school practices. Imagine what college is like. Wrestling tests you mentally like no other sport can. There is something about going toe to toe with another guy, who is trying inflict pain on you, and knowing that no matter what the result, it's all on you. And the entire crowd can see that. You have to own your losses in front of family and friends, just like you own your wins. Winning and losing is something that people universally understand, where as few people know the significance of 5 seconds of dropped time from your previous personal record in a race.
XC runners don't have to deal with the weight loss issue. Many of you have said that you know "plenty of elite wrestlers who don't cut weight." That is a flat out lie. As a collegiate wrestler, who has taken trips to the Olympic Training Center, I know for a FACT that elite wrestlers on all levels cut weight. Henry Cejudo, a 2008 Olympic Gold Medalist, was notorious for having issues with his weight. The kid was huge. And by huge, I mean muscular. He is in tremendous shape, with very little fat on his body. Sure, there are wrestlers that can have some success without cutting weight. But when you get to the upper echelons of the sport that is impossible to do. Nutrition is vital throughout the year.
Which brings me to my final point, there is no off season. Some of you have claimed that wrestlers are monsters during the season, but then let off in the off-season. On my team, we workout MORE in the off season since we don't have to worry so much about preserving our bodies for competition. Staying at a healthy weight year round is required as well. Yes, wrestlers "balloon up" in weight right after the season. But that weight becomes muscle in the off season, with many wrestlers entering the season 15 pounds over, with 6% body fat. Still think they are out of shape?
Comparing the misery of buds to high school wrestling with your fake seal made me laugh. Nothing compares to BUD/S.
TrackCoach wrote:
McCafe wrote:I've been wrestling for ywo years now, and some of my friends say cross country is harder than wrestling but i disagree. We have to run alot during practice too, and we lift alot too. what do you think?
If you said any other sport but wrestling I probably would have said XC. I've played all of the major sports except hockey and soccer, I would say XC is harder than all of those. I've boxed and wrestled a little bit and I would say both are harder than XC. I had twin brothers who boxed on my H.S. XC team, they only ran in a couple of early season meets, but they were running low 18s on a tough course with no summer running or a running background. 18 may not seem too fast for the LRC, but in my league the best guys only ran in the upper 16s. We would usually run at least 30 seconds faster on another course. And, we always had at least one wrestler on the team and they were usually pretty good runners as well.
I definitely agree. I have played pretty much every sport except for boxing. The people who transferred from wrestling to XC were beasts.