My goal of a sub 15:00 5000m: I will not stop until I reach my goal

CassdeFrance wrote:

I am so confused how everyone on here suddenly knows the history and current capabilities for the OP when he has merely shared a goal and his first few weeks of running after some time off. He's getting advice like its his first season running or he is 15 years old and trying to double his mileage and take 2 minutes off of his PR.

If you're confused you should go back and read the thread more carefully. He gives his background. This isn't a guy who has run sub-15 before trying to get back to where he once was. This is a guy who hasn't ever broken 16, who is in 17:30 shape right now, declaring he thinks he will be in 14:5x shape in 8 months.

Congratulations JCHOW, you ran a slow 1500 with a big negative split and a 400's workout averaging 71's. Big freaking deal.

People aren't being negative just to be negative. We are trying to inject a dose of reality into this thread. And also it's disrespectful to all the guys who worked their asses off to run sub-15 for you to think it is going to be so easy. You'll see, it's not easy.

I have never said it will be easy, but you are saying it will be impossible. I have been working my ass off so far, fitting in runs between the 70 hours a week I work, as well as the 5 hours of commuting every week and the VERY little time I have to run.

No disrespect to you, but you are disrespecting me by telling me that I don't have a hope in hell of breaking 15:00. It will be damn hard but I am going to work damn hard to reach my goal. I am not going to rely on the little talent I have, only hard work.

I suggest you stop posting. Im sure you will break 16:00 and you might be among the top 20 NCAA female atheletes. It doesnt need to be discussed every day.

get a blog website. Post a few pictures of yourself etc....

good luck

JCHOW wrote:

I have never said it will be easy, but you are saying it will be impossible. I have been working my ass off so far, fitting in runs between the 70 hours a week I work, as well as the 5 hours of commuting every week and the VERY little time I have to run.

JCHOW wrote:

I am 21 years old, work 30 hours a week as a waiter and have plenty of time to run.

Care to retract either of these statements?

30 as a waiter, 40 as a scale operator at an oil refinery.

Last post ever. Letsrun, you have smighted me. I will return when I break 15:00.

If you're working two jobs and commuting five hours every day, why would you claim you have plenty of time to run?

The proclaimed "injection of reality" is much appreciated by those of us who live in Narnia and only understand the workings of fanciful creatures and training like running a PR at age 18 and then not training consistently for 3 years, thereby immediately being a 17:30 5k and hopeless in the eyes of a bunch of...

Wait a tic. Hasn't this kid done something very similar to the BYU thread? You all (and I should say "they" but I'll assume we have some similar minds working here) bitched like crazy that the BYU guys could take 2 years away from the sport after HS to do their mission and then come back and run, therefore making them seniors when they are like 24 or 25. And I know what's next: "But the BYU guys were training and this guy specifically said he was not!" It was convenient for everyone to ignore every post of experience for runners who completed their mission and hardly had time for a lick of training.

Anyway, my point is, and I know we can argue this to the bone so I hope this is the last time I bother chirping in with this side of the thread, the kid is more mature than he was when he ran a 9:03 3k and a 4:06 1500, both not great but respectable high school times. When I got to college there were four freshman and three sophomores who had run 9:40 or better for 3200 meters (close enough to conversion) and every single one of them broke 15 on the track despite a poor training program and several alcohol problems. Can we please STFU and stop bickering, if you don't like his thread or our reality, stop reading.

I'll take his place. Hopefully this forum can help me out. 20 year old from Australia dont know any of this pounds/mile pace stuff soyou'll have to deal with kgs and kms. PB's (as I call them):

800: 1.58

1500: 4.04

3000: 8.50

5000: 15.36

10,000: 32.44 (Road)

Ran the 3km and 5km PBs in Feb got injured in June. Was running about 60-70km a week when I ran those times. Tibia problem, physio said it cant be Osgoods because I'm too old yet it fits all symptoms. Basically took 2 and 1/2 months off came back slow was feeling good then competed and problem has flared up again. Pretty much all fitness, ran 4.29 for 1500 when it flared up again.

My question is what is the best way to get past this injury and get back to getting near 15:30 sometime soon?

RE: My goal of a sub 15:00 5000m: I will not stop until I reach my goal 10/22/2009 6:56AM - in reply to reality doser Reply | Return to Index | Report Post

30 as a waiter, 40 as a scale operator at an oil refinery.

Last post ever. Letsrun, you have smighted me. I will return when I break 15:00.

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I think JCHOW has enough talent to break 15:00. But it will cost him lots of pain...

Today's run was 45 minutes. My judgment of distance has dissolved with my fitness, but I felt fine throughout the run so that's enough for me. Also added some core work and lifting; shoulders only. Day 8 complete.

Prediction: JCHOW posts a minimum of one more time.

Smighted? What did you expect? It's Letsruin.com

Work kept me away from running today. Sometimes a forced rest is just what a body needs though. Good luck to you all who recently joined this thread. I will be watching your progress.

Good luck to you man. Based on your background have definitely have the talent and potential to break 15 in 8 months. I took almost a year off from running after a PR in the 1500 but got injured then got lazy to start up again. Decided to get back into it when cross season was coming up. 2 months from the start of the season I just did easy running 3-5 miles 6 days a week. Now its been 2 months into season and I can already better my PRs in workouts with less effort. This is probably cause I increased to about 50mpw but nonetheless it shows anyone can get back fitness FAST. If you seriously trained for the 5k at the same time you ran the 4:06 1500m I'd say you would already but at least 15:3x if not better. Just stay consistent with your training and you will reach your goal.

JCHOW wrote:

30 as a waiter, 40 as a scale operator at an oil refinery.

Last post ever. Letsrun, you have smighted me. I will return when I break 15:00.

We won't be holding our breath. Thread over.

reality doser wrote:

JCHOW wrote:

I have never said it will be easy, but you are saying it will be impossible. I have been working my ass off so far, fitting in runs between the 70 hours a week I work, as well as the 5 hours of commuting every week and the VERY little time I have to run.

JCHOW wrote:

I am 21 years old, work 30 hours a week as a waiter and have PLENTY of time to run.

Care to retract either of these statements?

The guy´s a troll. He can´t even remember his own lies.

The troll alarm is going off. My ears are ringing. JCHOW, just go away and never come back.

JCHOW, please rename this thread to:

My goal is to be truthful: I will not stop working as a waiter until I quit the the oil refinery.

Probably is a troll. If he is, then I will give JCHOW 7/10. He's nearly at 100 replies. Mind you about a half are his own, but give the guy some props. He's putting in an effort to get some much needed attention he obviously isn't getting elsewhere else. I liked the post when he quit the bike workout because he got bored and went to the spa for a steam bath instead - unreal. I knew it was a troll at that point.

Well, you all know that I am not a troll and I have the same goal. There are others on this thread that are all working towards the same thing and I say we should stick at it and keep this thing going for all our sakes.

Tonight I ran 15 miles at 6:55 pace. Felt great as it was the first cool weather of the season here. Only 70 degrees and low humidity. Mileage is not were I would like it this week because work took me away on Tuesday and Thursday, but you can only do what the man lets you I guess.