Kennedy's 5K AR to go at Reebok on Sunday

The American 5K Record is a really tough record to catch. Though I do believe the talent is there to beat the record...some day, but not this week end. Also, I am surprized that Kennedy's record isn't talked about openly enough. He did Amazing things as a runner. Sacrificing a lot of media exposures and endorsements to train with the Kenyans. I believe Bob to be perhaps the greatest middle distance runner America has ever seen. My bet is - when it's all over with, the kid from Oregon; G. Rupp will be the Man.

oh alan wrote:

mets or jets? wrote:

Alan, you forgot about 2006 when NINETEEN men broke 13 minutes (and another ran under 13:01). How does that fit into your EPO test vs. no EPO test era?

Oh give alan a break, he only reads body building mags, so he doesn't know much about track and field. But he we will make up a reason why your little stat STILL doesn't refute his argument!

Was a competitive distance runner for 15 years. I have PRs better than the majority of the people here. I actually remember BK running 12:58 and wished he had done it only two years earlier (would have been a WR then). I watched the '96 Olympics when he led for a instance only to fade to 6th. Shit...I remember reading about BK's college title when I was like a freshman in High School.

IF you don't believe EPO was highly responsible for a lot of the depth in the 90s you are naive.

The POINT of my post is that people underestimate the value of a sub 13:00 5k....regardless of how far away it is from the WR.

Alan

You actually remember watching BK during the '96 Olympics? My God, your brain is like some sort of super computer!

And you're fast!!!!

Given the age, or maturity level, of the this board the average Letsrun poster was in diapers in '96...;)

Alan

Runningart2004 wrote:

I actually remember BK running 12:58 and wished he had done it only two years earlier (would have been a WR then)

eh ???

12:45.09 Daniel Komen KEN 17.05.76 1 Zürich 14.08.1996

12:52.70 Haile Gebrselassie ETH 18.04.73 2 Zürich 14.08.1996

12:54.72 Paul Tergat KEN 17.06.69 3 Zürich 14.08.1996

12:55.76 Khalid Boulami MAR 07.08.69 4 Zürich 14.08.1996

12:58.21 Bob Kennedy USA 18.08.70 5 Zürich 14.08.1996

how was that going to get him the wr ?

For a guy who throws around scientific formulas in nearly all of his posts, you're actually a pretty stupid person.If Bob Kennedy had run his 12:58.21 time in 1994 instead of 1996, yes it would have been a world record. All of the times you listed below are from 1996 and hadn't happened in 1994. Of course if any of the guys below would have run their times in 1994 they also would have set the world record. but that's not the point that runningart made.

ventolin wrote:

Runningart2004 wrote:

I actually remember BK running 12:58 and wished he had done it only two years earlier (would have been a WR then)

eh ???

12:45.09 Daniel Komen KEN 17.05.76 1 Zürich 14.08.1996

12:52.70 Haile Gebrselassie ETH 18.04.73 2 Zürich 14.08.1996

12:54.72 Paul Tergat KEN 17.06.69 3 Zürich 14.08.1996

12:55.76 Khalid Boulami MAR 07.08.69 4 Zürich 14.08.1996

12:58.21 Bob Kennedy USA 18.08.70 5 Zürich 14.08.1996

how was that going to get him the wr ?

i see you are even more stoopid

guy comes 5th & that makes him wr holder at any time in history ???!!!

I can't believe we're even still talking about Lagat and his "status" as an American.

Lagat is an American and is exactly what it means to be an "American" in my opinion.

The rules say nothing about not being native to any of the fifty states. Get over it. Not being born here doesn't make you "less of an American." To even think that or imply that means you really don't understand what "America" is.

read runningart's quote word for word :

"I actually remember BK running 12:58 and wished he had done it only two years earlier (would have been a WR then)"

his statement is correct. if bob kennedy had run 12:58.21 in 1994 insted of 1996 it would indeed have been a wr. because the wr at the start of 1994 was 12:58.39. you are complicating a simple statement by introducing irrelevant facts. if a guy runs 12:58.21 at a time when the wr is 12:58.39 he breaks the wr. thats what runningart said.

now run along son and let the big boys talk on this thread

4 guys ran quicker than him in that race

if this is the "mental faculty" of a "big boy" perhaps you shoud leaving the posting to your 5y ole nephew

AW Fan wrote:

read runningart's quote word for word :

"I actually remember BK running 12:58 and wished he had done it only two years earlier (would have been a WR then)"

his statement is correct. if bob kennedy had run 12:58.21 in 1994 insted of 1996 it would indeed have been a wr. because the wr at the start of 1994 was 12:58.39. you are complicating a simple statement by introducing irrelevant facts. if a guy runs 12:58.21 at a time when the wr is 12:58.39 he breaks the wr. thats what runningart said.

now run along son and let the big boys talk on this thread

I hate you. You suck.

karma police wrote:

I can't believe we're even still talking about Lagat and his "status" as an American.

Lagat is an American and is exactly what it means to be an "American" in my opinion.

The rules say nothing about not being native to any of the fifty states. Get over it. Not being born here doesn't make you "less of an American." To even think that or imply that means you really don't understand what "America" is.

Absolutely he's an AMERICAN. But for distance running purposes, he's genetically and physiologically a Kenyan. And that's what makes his getting the AR disingenuous and uninspiring. It would be like us exporting our Team USA sprinters to Ecuador, so they could claim Ecuadorian records. Or, better yet, our Team USA basketball players so Ecuador could claim the Olympic gold.

irrelevant to the original statement made by runningart.you're dumb.have a nice a day.that's all i have to say about that.thx.

ventolin wrote:

4 guys ran quicker than him in that race

i like u : - )

millersj wrote:

I hate you. You suck.

Betsy Ross wrote:

Absolutely he's an AMERICAN. But for distance running purposes, he's genetically and physiologically a Kenyan. And that's what makes his getting the AR disingenuous and uninspiring. It would be like us exporting our Team USA sprinters to Ecuador, so they could claim Ecuadorian records. Or, better yet, our Team USA basketball players so Ecuador could claim the Olympic gold.

What if Lagat's parents had moved to the US before Lagat was born? Sure, Lagat would have been born an Amreican. But genetically and physiologically, as you put it, he would have been exactly the same. So I guess the only AMERICANS that exist for distance running purposes are white people like yourself. Asians, Africans and Latin Americans do not count.

ventolin wrote:

4 guys ran quicker than him in that race

if this is the "mental faculty" of a "big boy" perhaps you shoud leaving the posting to your 5y ole nephew

Geezuz, grow up kids.

If he ran that TIME..TIME...T.I.M.E. (note how I did not say "race") two years earlier he would have been the WR holder. It just shows how much closer he was to the world's best than our current crop. He led the damn Olympic final for a bit only to fade to 6th. He was born and raised in flippin Ohio..OHIO.

I swear I think there are people (lots of them) who simply log on to try and argue with people.

BK's 5k record will stand for a very long time. Lagat won't get it (too old), Rupp won't get it (too slow). BK went and trained with those years ahead of him in terms of natural ability and he became a much faster runner because of it.

Not sure how accurate this is but here's some training of his from that time ('96):

Here's a guy running a 3:40 1500 in prep for his 5k, ran an AR 7:31 3k as well. All he did was find people much faster than him and train with them.

Alan

Runningart2004 wrote:

I swear I think there are people (lots of them) who simply log on to try and argue with people.

Do you realize how hard it is to not argue with a complete idiot?

It takes more self control than I have.

Runningart2004 wrote:

If he ran that TIME..TIME...T.I.M.E. (note how I did not say "race") two years earlier he would have been the WR holder

only if you remove from existence the 4 guys who beat him + the other almost certain <13 guys who weren't in that race - niyongabo, morceli & hicham

ventolin wrote:

Runningart2004 wrote:

If he ran that TIME..TIME...T.I.M.E. (note how I did not say "race") two years earlier he would have been the WR holder

only if you remove from existence the 4 guys who beat him + the other almost certain <13 guys who weren't in that race - niyongabo, morceli & hicham

What is your IQ, retard? 20? He said IF HE HAD RUN THAT TIME TWO YEARS EARLIER IT WOULD HAVE BEEN A WORLD RECORD?

Do you want me to repeat that?

If Bob Kennedy had run 12.58,21 2 years earlier it would have been a world record.

Geez! My 3 year old daughter is smarter than you.