Nice short piece at Track & Field News:
Nice short piece at Track & Field News:
does anyone know rupps spilts?
Leader splits for Rupp (from TFN site):
Lap Split
1 66.1
2 65.9 [2:12.0]
3 68.1 [3:20.1]
4 66.6 [4:26.7]
5 65.7 [5:32.4]
6 66.6 [6:39.0]
7 67.1 [7:46.1]
8 68.9 [8:55.0]
9 65.6 [10:00.6]
10 66.6 [11:07.2]
11 68.1 [12:15.3]
12 66.7 [13:22.0]
13 64.9 [14:26.9]
14 64.6 [15:31.5]
15 64.7 [16:36.2]
16 64.4 [17:40.6]
17 65.9 [18:46.5]
18 66.6 [19:53.1]
19 67.6 [21:00.7]
20 66.2 [22:06.9]
21 67.6 [23:14.5]
22 68.8 [24:23.3] [This is roughly where Rupp went into the lead, so you can see he picked up the tempo significantly.]
23 64.9 [25:28.2]
24 65.0 [26:33.2]
25 60.3 [27:33.48]
Leader splits for the race (Rupp led last c1100 meters): (66.1, 65.9 [2:12.0], 68.1 [3:20.1], 66.6 [4:26.7], 65.7 [5:32.4], 66.6 [6:39.0], 67.1 [7:46.1], 68.9 [8:55.0], 65.6 [10:00.6], 66.6 [11:07.2], 68.1 [12:15.3], 66.7 [13:22.0], 64.9 [14:26.9], 64.6 [15:31.5], 64.7 [16:36.2], 64.4 [17:40.6], 65.9 [18:46.5], 66.6 [19:53.1], 67.6 [21:00.7], 66.2 [22:06.9], 67.6 [23:14.5], 68.8 [24:23.3], 64.9 [25:28.2], 65.0 [26:33.2], 60.3)
Fam dropped out midway in the race. I was standing next to his pile of sweats. He mentioned disappointment because (according to him) it was the first time he had dropped out of a race. He didn't need the qual time for this year, but a good time Sunday night would have put him in good shape for the Olympic year, esp. after his Mt SAC 5K.
I overheard a few lines he had with someone (perhaps a coach) who meanwhile came to the area. I don't want to comment on overheard conversations, but there was nothing out of the ordinary. He'll be back. Tough Italian boys from the city are hard to kill.
? wrote:
To all runners jealous of Galen Rupp,
There is a painful yet simple reason why you criticize Galen Rupp and also why his name is in the news and your name is not: he is faster than you. It is ironic to note that if you were as fast as Galen Rupp you probably would not be wasting your time criticizing other runners because you yourself would understand what is required to become a world-class athlete. You would also feel better about yourselves if you were as fast, although basing your self-worth strictly off of running performances would be a self-destructive and superficial way to live your life. Be that as it may, all you runners - and I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you actually are runners - must not forget that Galen has the two crucial factors necessary for success: talent and discipline. It takes talent to run 100-plus miles a week (i.e. your body physically being able to withstand the taxing training) and to run your last lap of a 10000 meters in 60 seconds; it takes discipline to train day in and day out, through injuries/sickness, and make sacrifices like not going out on the weekends and binge drinking. Keep in mind these factors are required regardless of any alleged drug/steroid uses which by the way have yet to be proven. Instead of wasting your time online criticizing Galen Rupp I suggest you get outside because your time would be better spent running. If you want to stay inside and play the intellectual game then I suggest you read the genealogy of Morals by Nietzsche and learn about how people with less power develop a sense of ressentiment (no I didn't spell it wrong) towards people in power, forming attitudes of blind jealousy and mindless hatred. So on that lovely note, I defy you: go on, keep criticizing Rupp, in the end you will only be getting what you want, not what you need.
Pardon me if I've missed something, but it appears to be the Rupp defenders that seem to be caught up in dysfunction. These claims of jealousy are a dead dog, where are all the Ryan Hall detractors, Nietzsche... give me a break. It is odd that you consider Rupp a "person in power", what does that say about you?
I haven't noticed anyone suggesting they wish to see Rupp lose or fail, or that they hate him, or wish him any sort of ill.
What's it to you if someone is not a Rupp fan?
I happen to be very happy for Rupp and all the other Stanford competitors, what a huge contribution to American distance running. Rupp ran a break through time, and he should be pleased, I am.
I am, however, not a Rupp fan. Is there any reason I should be other than to satisfy some prickly brat on letsrun? Knowing a little bit about AlSal's past and current connections, I think it's fair to voice curiosity about potential drug use. Not that my (or anyone elses) curiosity diminishes Rupp's hard work and talent, it doesn't. Rupps is an inconsistant performer, he has obviously run some great races, and plenty of boners. Does being inconsistant make Rupp a drug cheat? No, just inconsistant. I was in Eugene for the Pepsi meet sitting right on the finish line for Rupps 14.XX 5k, way more people were cheering for Shadrack. Rupp and AlSal don't just have some baggage, they are baggage, and while some embrace it, others grow weary of lame drama.
Some of you need to grow up. Every time anyone says anything about Rupp that you even marginally disagree with, you start shrieking jealousy, hater, and generally sounding like big cry babies. One not even need be directly critical of Rupp to spark these insecure outbursts.
With the real season about to begin, I think the real drama will too.
You're seriously comparing Hall right now with Rupp right now? I don't even have to bother spelling out what kind of thinking that indicates, it speaks for itself.
boredman wrote:
Every time anyone says anything about Rupp that you even marginally disagree with, you start shrieking jealousy, hater, and generally sounding like big cry babies.
You're kidding, right? Defending a young man from condescending jerks makes you a "cry baby"?
Additionally, the hypocrisy in that statement is absolutely priceless. Have you seen some of the mature comments that you describe as "maginally disagree"?
"Can we get that A and B samples PUH-LEEZ?!?"
"That performance is as legit as Superman on a blue screen"
"MANCRUSH FANBOY"
Please tell me, how can somebody who makes ridiculous comments like those possibly accuse OTHERS of being a cry baby?
Someone who hasn't yet turned twenty-one years of age just ran the seventh fastest 10,000 by an American. Forget comparing him to his contemporary Americans, forget what he might or might not do in the future. What he achieved is worthy in and of itself.
You can never compare him to other Americans because of the advantages he has received.
I'm not saying it's bad for us as a country, and certainly not him, but you simply can't compare his output to others who haven't had his advantages.
Compare him to the people who have had his focus/coaching/backing.....
.....Like, say, the Africans.....
was this the deepest American 10k race ever?
AppleSeed wrote:
You can never compare him to other Americans because of the advantages he has received.
I'm not saying it's bad for us as a country, and certainly not him, but you simply can't compare his output to others who haven't had his advantages.
Compare him to the people who have had his focus/coaching/backing.....
.....Like, say, the Africans.....
ummmm.... dont you think that americans seem to have more advantages than the africans?
you can always compare rupp to other americans because he trains like other americans. You may, however, not want to compare him to other college runners cause you may believe he trains with advantages like a pro.
some of the people on here that dont like rupp think its unfair for him to compete against other college guys because he has more advantages than they do. Fine. But dont say he has more advantages than other professional runners, because there aren't nearly as many constraints on professional running and ettiquette. So it may be unfair that rupp runs collegiately, but as all of you are mad because he beats your favorite runner 'unfairly', im sure all he cares about is beating the best, for the most part beating professional runners. And guess what...? he has.
rupps spilts not the leaders!
Its good to see Shay back on the track. I think his last 10k was the '04 Trials, first outdoor track race since then too. Good PR.
AppleSeed wrote:
You can never compare him to other Americans because of the advantages he has received.
I can damn sure compare him to other Americans. Get a clue. Because no American athlete has access to the exact same "advantages" that he has? Excuse me, I guess I am ignorant, but I remember hearing about Ritz using the anti-G treadmill stuff, and many athletes using underwater treadmills. I may also be wrong, but I seem to recall many athletes having access to massage, trainers, and doctors whenever needed. I guess Rupp is the only American with all these advantages. Additionally, Rupp surely does not have the advantage of many years of training that many of the runners that his times put him in front of have had. But I guess you are right. Having access to an underwater treadmill must count for more than say Ritz having, what, 4 years oh him, whose PR Rupp beat?
"Defending a young man from condescending jerks makes you a "cry baby"?"
Not necessarily, but for the most part yes. I guess it depends on how you react to a dumb, offhand comment. As for you, judging from your reaction you are acting like a "big fat cry baby"!
Silly me, I thought dumb comments are what makes letsrun so much fun. Maybe you should start a new forum "sacred-order-of-the-defenders-of-Rupp.com".
Why does Rupp need your, and others, zealous defence anyway? Rupp is a public figure, a great runner who sometimes acts like a twit. Not even the Pope is immune from criticism. Why should Rupp be treated so specially?
This co-dependant thing some people (I'd bet its primarily youngish guys too) have with Rupp is acually quite funny.
boredman wrote:
Rupp is a public figure, a great runner who sometimes acts like a twit.
oh, i soo miscalculated your maturity
Nietzsche talked tough about how, "the poison by which weaker natures perish serves only to strengthen the strong" from the comfort and safety of his padded leather chair as he sipped Schnapps. Then he was so confident in his will to power that he broke down and cried like a baby over a flogged horse. Sounds like an apt "father of post-modernism" to me. Apply the "kill your idols" mantra selectively.
Galen Rupp (running)= Lebron James (basketball)
Could you imagine Ohio State this year with Lebron James as a senior?
The only difference is a few hundred million $ when their careers are over.
"HOLY SETH SUMMERSIDE!!!! What an incredible progression Seth has made. Came to Arkansas with PRs of 3:56 (I think that's right, he normally ran right around 4 flat but ran 3:56 once I think) and 15:32ish. This guy just works hard and races harder. Congratulations to Seth."
-good on you, lad! another great product of john's coaching and hard work added.