why is no one looking into lowering of E levels? It's an anti-androgenic substance that's a competitive inhibitor of T.....ummmmm, if he had low levels of E....T becomes way more effective.
why is no one looking into lowering of E levels? It's an anti-androgenic substance that's a competitive inhibitor of T.....ummmmm, if he had low levels of E....T becomes way more effective.
Anyone know if Irish 1500m runner Gareth Turnbull had synthetic testo in his sample....or could he just go free because he had a ratio of 5:1?
It was... (Floyd excuse No. 423)
Landis offers new drug test theory to Leno
Cyclist tells ‘Tonight Show’ host he could\'ve ingested foreign substance
The Associated Press
Updated: 10:35 p.m. ET Aug. 8, 2006
BURBANK, Calif. - Jay Leno didn’t let Floyd Landis off easy, and the embattled Tour de France champion responded with yet another theory as to why he flunked a drug test.
Questioned by the “Tonight Show” host Tuesday, Landis said he may have unknowingly ingested something that made him test positive for a high testosterone ratio.
“I see you on these shows and I do want to believe you and evidence seems — I don’t know if it’s overwhelming — but it seems pretty conclusive, right?” Leno said.
Landis said yes, if one goes by the tests, and Leno shot back, ‘Why should we not go by the tests? Tell me why.”’
Landis responded that there were several possibilities, saying, “The tests and the people doing the tests would like you to believe that the only possibility is that I essentially took some drugs and that’s why the test is that way.”
He offered still another new theory: “Now there’s also the possibility, and it’s an argument that has been used by other people. At this point, I don’t know if it’s somehow or some way I ingested something that caused the tests to be that way.”
Landis went on to repeat some possibilities he and his defense team had floated earlier, that there was some type of natural occurrence in his body that caused the positive tests.
He added, “And I’m beginning to wonder about this myself after the way the situation’s been handled, is that after the (sample) leaves my hands ... after I give them the sample, I don’t know where it goes.”
There wasn’t much joking while Landis was on the show, although Leno had said in his monologue, “Tonight we have a man on this show who has way too much testosterone — Bill Maher.”
Leno also said that he rode his bike to work because Landis was going to be on the show, grinning and adding, “Oh, yeah. It was my Harley.”
Landis himself got a laugh from the studio audience by defending Leno against Maher.
At one point during the exchanges between Leno and Landis, Mahler chimed in, “It seems like we’re having a giant debate about a sport no one gives a ... about. Does anyone ever watch people bicycle racing, except for the last 10 seconds?”
Landis spoke up, “He has a hard time getting guests here. Leave the guy alone.”
The crowd laughed and applauded.
After falling out of first place and back into the pack at this year’s Tour de France, Landis came roaring back to win stage 17 in the Alps with one of the more remarkable rides in cycling history.
Both of Landis’ “A” and “B” samples taken after that stage turned up a testosterone/epitestosterone ratio of 11:1 — far in excess of the 4:1 limit. Further tests also showed that the samples contained synthetic testosterone, indicating that it was from an outside source.
Landis has maintained his innocence throughout.
He and his defense team initially claimed that any of numerous factors could have led to the high testosterone readings, including cortisone shots taken for pain in his degenerating hip; drinking beer and whiskey the night before; thyroid medication; his natural metabolism; and dehydration, a theory rebuffed by anti-doping experts.
Making the round of TV shows this week, Landis has said his early reaction to the case led people to believe that he was just trying to come up with new excuses.
Tour de France officials no longer consider him the champion, and Landis’ Swiss racing team dismissed him. He likely will try to keep his champion’s yellow jersey by appealing, a process that could take months.
If he eventually is stripped of the championship, he would be the first rider to lose the title in the race’s 103-year history.
Technically, Landis would be the first to lose the title because of doping. At least one early winner was stripped of the title for cheating in some other way.
Is there anyway that this guy is not dirty? I want to believe that he is clean yet all people that have tested and got popped have cried that someone is out to get them.
Now claiming that the test wasn't anonymous. If this is true then surely he will get off because it's a clear breach of protocol.
So now I think the excuses total:
- Naturally high T levels
- Reaction to cortazone
- Dehydration
- Thyroid medication
- Beer
- Something else he injested
- The test was rigged
- What next?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/other_sports/cycling/5254402.stm
Landis blames testing procedure
Landis has not been stripped of his Tour de France title yet
Floyd Landis claims his doping test was "fatally flawed" and says officials behind the process have an agenda.
The American tested positive for unusual levels of testosterone after winning stage 17 of this year's race and is set to lose his title.
But Landis, 30, claims the leak of his test broke rules and questions the anonymity of the procedure.
"There's extraneous circumstances that indicate there's some strange things going on with this test," said Landis.
Landis criticised officials from the International Cycling Union (UCI) and World Anti-Doping Agency (Wada) for announcing the results of his test without analysing his B sample.
He also claimed the test was not conducted anonymously, saying he had evidence to prove laboratory staff had access to the names of the samples being tested.
"You'll see that they clearly broke the rules and their excuse was pathetic. The only explanation I can come up with is that there is some agenda here," Landis told Radio Four's Today programme.
"The public display of humiliation they've brought upon me, breaking their own rules in the process, and the excuses they've used, have been unacceptable in the least.
"I can prove to you, and will demonstrate to you, that the people at the laboratory are not objective about this.
"I have evidence to indicate they have the names of the riders connected to the numbers.
"In order for them to be objective, without any kind of bias, it has to be completely anonymous. That has to be a fatal flaw in the system.
"It's devastating and now I'm angry and disappointed in the system. I'm upset that some people with ethics like they have have been given the authority to do the things they're doing."
UCI boss Pat McQuaid, however, insisted there were no such rules regarding the naming of a rider who has failed a drugs test.
"I make no excuses for the fact that we announced we had an adverse analytical finding on the Tour de France - it's important we're completely transparent - and that's all we announced.
"It was his team that released his name, not the UCI," McQuaid told BBC Sport.
The Irishman also rejected the likelihood that the independent, Wada-accredited lab in Paris would compromise the anonymity of the test.
"I have no evidence, or ever been aware of any evidence, to show the labs have the names at the same time as the numbers, so I would reject that completely," he said.
"But I do have an agenda. My agenda is a clean sport and to retain the credibility of the sport."
Landis has denied ever taking performance-enhancing drugs and a variety of reasons were offered for his failed test, including one that he drank whisky and beer the night before stage 17.
The ride to Morzine saw him record an epic victory after struggling on the final climb the day before.
Other reasons given were dehydration, injections for pain in his hip and his natural metabolism.
Since then the former mountain bike star has launched a vigorous defence of his reputation on American television.
Landis told NBC's "Today" show that some of the explanations for the unusual levels of testosterone were given in haste.
"I've come out in the press and tried to explain these test results, but I think that was a mistake," said Landis. "I was forced into this situation because of leaks from the UCI."
Speaking on ABC's "Good Morning America" show, Landis denied all of these explanations came from him.
"All of these reasons that have come up, some from me, some from other people, we need to forget about them and let the experts figure out what's going on," he said.
"The whisky idea was not mine and the dehydration was a theory from the lawyers I hired in Spain to represent me at the opening of the B sample.
"But I did not authorise them to say something like that so I'm disappointed with that."
Landis, who has already been sacked by his Phonak team, faces a two-year ban if the US Anti-Doping Agency decides he is guilty, though he will have the opportunity to appeal.
UCI officials must then decide whether to award the Tour de France title to runner-up Oscar Pereiro of Spain.