This thread was deleted by a volunteer moderator. I certainly don't want a thread this big deleted so I've restored. THat being said, this thread has served it's purpose. I've closed it to new posts.
We have a new 2024 vaccine thread here. New people don't need to try to wade through 20,000 posts to figure out what is going on.
Funny how the grifters all latch one the same paper and amplify an exaggerated message! Less than 1% of students in that study had clinically actionable myocarditis and all them resolved in days. Read the primary lit… don’t just get told what to think.
Funny how the grifters all latch one the same paper and amplify an exaggerated message! Less than 1% of students in that study had clinically actionable myocarditis and all them resolved in days. Read the primary lit… don’t just get told what to think.
It sure is funny how nobody cares what you have to say.
If you thought Operation Warp Speed was rolled out fast, just wait until the next "pandemic" arrives. Covid was just a warmup, according to billionaire eugenicist Bill Gates, who is already warning about the next scamdemic an...
If you thought Operation Warp Speed was rolled out fast, just wait until the next “pandemic” arrives.
Covid was just a warmup, according to billionaire eugenicist Bill Gates, who is already warning about the next scamdemic and the speed with which the next round of “vaccines” will be unleashed.
“Next time what we’ll have is factories that are able to produce [vaccines] far faster, and so just in months you should be able to make enough for the world,” Gates recently said.
“So we’ll have enough supply so that prioritization won’t matter because we’ll cover everyone.” (Related: Gates also has plans to “vaccinate” the entire food supply.)
Corresponding to statements also recently made by fake president Joe Biden about the next plandemic, Gates says that “giant mRNA factories” will soon appear that will churn out all sorts of new vaccines at warp speed.
According to billionaire eugenicist Bill Gates, animals that humans eat have inadequate genetics. And the only way to "fix" those genetics is to "vaccinate" said animals with new mRNA (messenger RNA) "vaccines." Watch below a...
According to billionaire eugenicist Bill Gates, animals that humans eat have inadequate genetics. And the only way to “fix” those genetics is to “vaccinate” said animals with new mRNA (messenger RNA) “vaccines.”
Watch below as Gates explains his desires for the animal kingdom:
Bill Gates wants to ‘vaccinate’ animals to give them better genetics ? pic.twitter.com/2lBKXzpm8P — Dr. Anastasia Maria Loupis (@DrLoupis) January 3, 2023
Unless all animals, including food animals, are jabbed with Big Pharma’s latest poisons, the food supply will remain “dirty,” in Gates’ view. Only he and his globalist minions can “sanitize” it with new chemicals and DNA modification techniques – which they are also trying to do to humans.
Funny how the grifters all latch one the same paper and amplify an exaggerated message! Less than 1% of students in that study had clinically actionable myocarditis and all them resolved in days. Read the primary lit… don’t just get told what to think.
If you're unvaccinated at this point, you're asking to be hospitalized or worse. https://t.co/BTwConOxNq
Paxlovid has proven effective among those at highest risk, including older people and those who are immune compromised. But it appears to provide little or for younger adults.
Haven’t even read the article, but, yes! Exactly. For starters.
“Why did the strategy for significantly increasing BA.4 and BA.5 neutralizing antibodies using a bivalent vaccine fail? The most likely explanation is imprinting. The immune systems of people immunized with the bivalent vaccine, all of whom had previously been vaccinated, were primed to respond to the ancestral strain of SARS-CoV-2. They therefore probably responded to epitopes shared by BA.4 and BA.5 and the ancestral strain, rather than to new epitopes on BA.4 and BA.5.”
Wait a minute. These experts on here told me these jabs didn’t fail. Fail is a strong word.
Also, I asserted imprinting a long time ago, and they assured me it wasn’t a concern!
I’ve been duped.
Observational data shows that bivalent boosters are working fine. It's not clear they are necessarily better than re-boosting with the WT vaccine for nAb levels but that's not a failure.
I totally agree that the FDA's gamble with BA.4 and BA.5 did not result in outsize protection against those strains specifically. Offit did not say the vaccines failed - you, of course, are reading that because it's what you (desperately) want to believe. They failed to increase BA.4 and BA.5 titers substantially. The vaccines still improved protection against all severity levels of COVID.
Also you don't really seem to understand imprinting. That's OK -- it's a confusing idea. I'll explain. First, there are confounding factors at play. Someone who has gotten 3x WT vaccines and an infection has been challenged FOUR times with 'old' strains. If they were given a BA.4 and BA.5 booster we would still expect robust response to old strains -- their immune system has seen it a lot. (see Fig 1 in the Ho paper cited by Offit; https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.10.22.513349v1.full.pdf).
Second (and related), imprinting is only 'bad' if it prevents your ability to respond to new strains. Boosting with the bivalent at worst generated equiavalent nAbs as a WT booster did and the nAbs were not worse than against prior omicron strains. Is this just the immune system recognizing shared epitopes as Offit says? Could be! Does it offer protection -- absolutely! In this way imprinting can be good because it you end up generating abs toward conserved regions of antigens. This is generally a positive.
Perhaps you may cop out here and say 'well, I didn't say the imprinting was going to be harmful!' Then OK, you get props for using immunology vocabulary and naming things the immune system does.
Lastly, I'll remind you that 'imprinting' is much more of a problem with infection driven immunity. We saw that pre-Omicron prior infection was far worse at dealing with Omicron than vaccination was, for example.
Look, I can put 2 and 2 together, but are we really going to start arguing that the vaccines don't work against severe disease and death? You guys are just making my job easy, at that point -- cheers.
“Natural News (formerly NewsTarget, which is now a separate sister site) is a far-right, anti-vaccination conspiracy theory and fake news website known for promoting alternative medicine, pseudoscience, disinformation, and far-right extremism.[1][9] The website began publishing articles in 2008 and is based in the United States.”
Haha my medical bills are in collections so I treat everything I get myself and don’t trust medical doctors “Voters with annual incomes below $30,000 are most likely to think there are legitimate reasons to be concerned about the safety of COVID-19 vaccines, while those with incomes above $200,000 are most likely to believe people who worry about vaccine safety are spreading conspiracy theories.”
Nearly half of Americans think COVID-19 vaccines may be to blame for many unexplained deaths, and more than a quarter say someone they know could be among the victims.
Observational data shows that bivalent boosters are working fine. It's not clear they are necessarily better than re-boosting with the WT vaccine for nAb levels but that's not a failure.
I totally agree that the FDA's gamble with BA.4 and BA.5 did not result in outsize protection against those strains specifically. Offit did not say the vaccines failed - you, of course, are reading that because it's what you (desperately) want to believe. They failed to increase BA.4 and BA.5 titers substantially. The vaccines still improved protection against all severity levels of COVID.
Also you don't really seem to understand imprinting. That's OK -- it's a confusing idea. I'll explain. First, there are confounding factors at play. Someone who has gotten 3x WT vaccines and an infection has been challenged FOUR times with 'old' strains. If they were given a BA.4 and BA.5 booster we would still expect robust response to old strains -- their immune system has seen it a lot. (see Fig 1 in the Ho paper cited by Offit; https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.10.22.513349v1.full.pdf).
Second (and related), imprinting is only 'bad' if it prevents your ability to respond to new strains. Boosting with the bivalent at worst generated equiavalent nAbs as a WT booster did and the nAbs were not worse than against prior omicron strains. Is this just the immune system recognizing shared epitopes as Offit says? Could be! Does it offer protection -- absolutely! In this way imprinting can be good because it you end up generating abs toward conserved regions of antigens. This is generally a positive.
Perhaps you may cop out here and say 'well, I didn't say the imprinting was going to be harmful!' Then OK, you get props for using immunology vocabulary and naming things the immune system does.
Lastly, I'll remind you that 'imprinting' is much more of a problem with infection driven immunity. We saw that pre-Omicron prior infection was far worse at dealing with Omicron than vaccination was, for example.
Observational data shows that bivalent boosters are working fine. It's not clear they are necessarily better than re-boosting with the WT vaccine for nAb levels but that's not a failure.
I totally agree that the FDA's gamble with BA.4 and BA.5 did not result in outsize protection against those strains specifically. Offit did not say the vaccines failed - you, of course, are reading that because it's what you (desperately) want to believe. They failed to increase BA.4 and BA.5 titers substantially. The vaccines still improved protection against all severity levels of COVID.
Also you don't really seem to understand imprinting. That's OK -- it's a confusing idea. I'll explain. First, there are confounding factors at play. Someone who has gotten 3x WT vaccines and an infection has been challenged FOUR times with 'old' strains. If they were given a BA.4 and BA.5 booster we would still expect robust response to old strains -- their immune system has seen it a lot. (see Fig 1 in the Ho paper cited by Offit; https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.10.22.513349v1.full.pdf).
Second (and related), imprinting is only 'bad' if it prevents your ability to respond to new strains. Boosting with the bivalent at worst generated equiavalent nAbs as a WT booster did and the nAbs were not worse than against prior omicron strains. Is this just the immune system recognizing shared epitopes as Offit says? Could be! Does it offer protection -- absolutely! In this way imprinting can be good because it you end up generating abs toward conserved regions of antigens. This is generally a positive.
Perhaps you may cop out here and say 'well, I didn't say the imprinting was going to be harmful!' Then OK, you get props for using immunology vocabulary and naming things the immune system does.
Lastly, I'll remind you that 'imprinting' is much more of a problem with infection driven immunity. We saw that pre-Omicron prior infection was far worse at dealing with Omicron than vaccination was, for example.
U.S. — A dispute regarding the nature of vaccination has arisen among faithful followers of The Science, and of Fauci its prophet. According to sources, some progressives say that the sacrament of vaccination is the literal b...
A dispute regarding the nature of vaccination has arisen among faithful followers of The Science, and of Fauci its prophet. According to sources, some progressives say that the sacrament of vaccination is the literal body of Fauci, while others believe it is only symbolic.
"The mRNA juice we inject into our bodies to cover our COVID becomes the literal body of our Blessed Lord Fauci through a process called tranvaxstantiation," said progressive scholar Banz Tinkleman (he/him). "Whether it be Pfizer or Moderna, we can have faith that the real presence of Fauci is within the vax itself. To suggest otherwise is a damnable heresy. Why we..."
Tinkleman was unable to finish his sentence, as the left side of his face suddenly stopped working.
Several progressives, however, take issue with this view. "We vaccinate as a communal time of remembrance of Fauci and everything he's done for us," said a scholar Yix Mixley (she/her), who holds the opposing view. "We acknowledge that the spiritual presence of Fauci, blessings upon him, may be in with and under the vax, but reject tranvaxstantiation wholeheartedly."
Mixley then collapsed due to heart inflammation.
At publishing time, progressive leaders agreed to settle it through a holy war in which any heretics would be burned at the stake, but ultimately elected to just burn Portland down instead.
U.S. — Medical experts are absolutely stumped as to what could be causing the recent uptick in healthy, young people everywhere that are suddenly collapsing with heart failure. Despite their uncertainty, experts do feel confi...
Medical experts are absolutely stumped as to what could be causing the recent uptick in healthy, young people everywhere that are suddenly collapsing with heart failure. Despite their uncertainty, experts do feel confident that we can rule out that one thing as the culprit.
"It's too early to say what could be causing this, but it's never too early to say what isn't causing this," said local expert, Dr. Scott Rufflinger. "This could be caused by anything. But the one thing we know for certain is that it's definitely not what we're all thinking that's behind this — if you know what I mean. We can go ahead and rule that thing out right now because Science just called us on the phone and told us not to discuss it. We always follow Science."
According to sources, experts have been working tirelessly around the clock to try and get to the bottom of why so many seemingly perfectly healthy, athletic people are falling over suddenly. "I wish I could point to something in the past year or two that large groups of people were exposed to, or forced into, but nothing comes to mind," added Dr. Rufflinger. "If only there was one thing all these patients had in common."
At publishing time, experts said they had narrowed down the list of what most likely was causing these sudden health issues down to: climate change, racism, Christian Nationalism, standing up too quickly, standing up too slowly, and not eating enough bugs.
Whether or not it is a 'coincidence' remains to be seen - but it is getting hard to ignore all of the recent stories about athletes, collegiate and professional, unexpectedly either collapsing or passing away.
The nation's attention was captured back on January 3, 2022 when NFL player Demar Hamlin collapsed on the field due to cardiac arrest after making what appeared to be a routine tackle and then standing up and clapping his hands.
Days after the incident, we highlighted Old Dominion basketball player Imo Essien collapsing on the court during the middle of a game against Georgia Southern. Video from the incident appeared to show Essien clutching his chest while on the ground.
And hours ago, the MMA world was shocked at the unexpected death of 18 year old Victoria Lee, a rising star on the the ONE Championship MMA promotion. “She has gone too soon and our family has been completely devastated since then,” her sister wrote on Instagram last weekend.
Now, yet another athlete has unexpectedly passed away at the tender age of 21. Air Force football player Hunter Brown suffered a "medical emergency" while walking to class on Monday of this week and passed away, according to Fox News.
With heavy hearts we share the loss of a cadet. C3C Hunter Brown died Monday after suffering a medical emergency while on his way to class. Our thoughts are with his family, friends, teammates and fellow cadets.#NeverForgotten pic.twitter.com/amPlznZqTC — U.S. Air Force Academy (@AF_Academy) January 10, 2023
The report says that he "was on his way to class from his dorm room when he collapsed", and that EMTs were unable to revive him with life-saving measures.
Yep they'll get the mrna into a lot of unvaxxed humans one way or another. They are eventually injecting all the cows and pigs they can and they know that will transfer into humans when they eat the meat. These people are evil. There's no large scale pushback against this, also because they're doing it on the down-low and simultaneously using the media to distract people with other "issues." Cancel culture needs to go after evil Bill Gates who thinks he's doing good by wanting to depopulate the world. The scariest thing though is the censorship and parliamentary bills in the works aimed at enabling government censorship. Soon they'll be able to immediately flag any video that has truth contrary to the agenda. They have workers and also many bots going around the clock to control the information--which is an age old communist tactic. I guess they respect the Chinese in some capacity to emulate them and their governmental control over their people. It's time to wake up.
Yep they'll get the mrna into a lot of unvaxxed humans one way or another. They are eventually injecting all the cows and pigs they can and they know that will transfer into humans when they eat the meat. These people are evil. There's no large scale pushback against this, also because they're doing it on the down-low and simultaneously using the media to distract people with other "issues." Cancel culture needs to go after evil Bill Gates who thinks he's doing good by wanting to depopulate the world. The scariest thing though is the censorship and parliamentary bills in the works aimed at enabling government censorship. Soon they'll be able to immediately flag any video that has truth contrary to the agenda. They have workers and also many bots going around the clock to control the information--which is an age old communist tactic. I guess they respect the Chinese in some capacity to emulate them and their governmental control over their people. It's time to wake up.
For sure. I know people who have shown gut-stable mRNA-LNPs that segregate into muscle intact in pigs and cows. Vaccine-by-meat is coming. Better go vegan before it's too late.
look, nobody intends to convince you or thinks they ever could.
what we 'anti-vaxxers' can do is highlight the increasing avalanche of evidence and help sway minds in the middle. You either can't see the writing on the wall or choose not to look.
Do realize that Twitter is blowing the lid on a lot of this because the censored are no longer censored. It's coming into the media, slowly but surely, govts and people across the world are opening the can of worms...
but hey I get it, you've invested so many hours, so much of your identify into this, so of course you can't change course now lol
go down with the titanic all you want, keep injecting yourself, what do I care?
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