Mimi could run 60+ mile days in 110 F but she can't run in colder weather?
That sounds fishy.
Also the lame excuse that she couldn't run further because the was no place to park the giant RV. Didn't she have two VW when she started?
Mimi could run 60+ mile days in 110 F but she can't run in colder weather?
That sounds fishy.
Also the lame excuse that she couldn't run further because the was no place to park the giant RV. Didn't she have two VW when she started?
Chirpy Mimi wrote:
The hardest thing for the crew today was to find suitable stopping places at the required distances for lunch and the end of the day. The RV is so large that if we miss an opportunity we would have to drive many miles before finding a turning spot. Today this has meant a slightly shorter mileage.
This sounds like they just discovered the logistics of such a run. They would have learned stop planning in the first few days. I expect the steady mileage days will no longer happen.
I have been watching Mimi's team stops. On her webpage Google map you can switch to satellite view to see if a stop makes sense. You can also use street view to put virtual boots on the ground. That is the way I saw that at one point the support car was off the side of the road and stopped in a drainage ditch, while less than half a mile before that was an excellent very wide paved stop along the road. The driver skipped the obvious stop point and stopped in a very dangerous place.
I have been watching Mimi's team stops. On her webpage Google map you can switch to satellite view to see if a stop makes sense. You can also use street view to put virtual boots on the ground. That is the way I saw that at one point the support car was off the side of the road and stopped in a drainage ditch, while less than half a mile before that was an excellent very wide paved stop along the road. The driver skipped the obvious stop point and stopped in a very dangerous place.
Mimi probably needed some attention and they had to stop wherever she was at that time.
She might has some serious issues which the crew tries to hide from us.
Boots are ready wrote:
I have been watching Mimi's team stops. On her webpage Google map you can switch to satellite view to see if a stop makes sense. You can also use street view to put virtual boots on the ground. That is the way I saw that at one point the support car was off the side of the road and stopped in a drainage ditch, while less than half a mile before that was an excellent very wide paved stop along the road. The driver skipped the obvious stop point and stopped in a very dangerous place.
Mimi probably needed some attention and they had to stop wherever she was at that time.
She might has some serious issues which the crew tries to hide from us.
Maybe. But the car was stopped there for many hours and Mimi was still far down the road.
Testing 1, 2, 3 wrote:
the worm has turned. wrote:^agreed
She cannot use the excuse that they did not test the tracker first. Utter rubbish. You do not do start out on such a trek without testing your equipment first; trackers, webpage, how to upload data in realtime, how to share realtime data, how to post to Strava. Hmmm, ah!!!! That is the Pete K bombproof data method.
They did test it apparently. Richard Race Drone says they took his trackers on recces over there and never reported any issues, so this is all just nonsense.
Oh look who is piping up - Andy Persson who heavily defended Rob Young!
"Andy Persson
The letsrun thread does seem to be heavily focused on the live tracking. The main purpose of that is presumably if people want to find Mimi to run with her. I would have thought the weight of evidence is more on the Strava data which is being posted regularly and looks legit. Cadence is recorded and it would be easy to see if there was something dodgy going on if there were regular drops in cadence as there were on the recent 100x100k run in India. With this data the only way to fake it I guess would be a substitute runner or a techie working on the data in the rv. With Mimi’s previous track record that would seem unlikely to say the least.
Neil Bryant
Previous track record means nothing to some people though. If you really wanted to run with her I'm guessing that if you were in a car it wouldn't actually be difficult to find her would it?
Richard Weremiuk
Exactly right Andy. she is wearing two Suunto I believe for that. The Tracker's data is really to facilitate meet up, not evidence speed or cadence
Andy Persson
Just what I was thinking Neil Maybe I’ve watched too many movies but they seem to have a lot of long straight roads out there. Not like trying to chase someone round Norfolk"
smells fishy wrote:
Andy Persson
Just what I was thinking Neil Maybe I’ve watched too many movies but they seem to have a lot of long straight roads out there. Not like trying to chase someone round Norfolk"
Except when a tracker is off for 6-7 hours you are chasing someone around. Are they resting in the RV? Are they taking a loo break? Did they change the path like Mimi did this morning when she ran down W 3rd Street in the town of La Junta, CO, rather than down highway 50 as she intended.
smells fishy wrote:
Testing 1, 2, 3 wrote:She cannot use the excuse that they did not test the tracker first. Utter rubbish. You do not do start out on such a trek without testing your equipment first; trackers, webpage, how to upload data in realtime, how to share realtime data, how to post to Strava. Hmmm, ah!!!! That is the Pete K bombproof data method.
They did test it apparently. Richard Race Drone says they took his trackers on recces over there and never reported any issues, so this is all just nonsense.
Oh look who is piping up - Andy Persson who heavily defended Rob Young!
"Andy Persson
The letsrun thread does seem to be heavily focused on the live tracking. The main purpose of that is presumably if people want to find Mimi to run with her. I would have thought the weight of evidence is more on the Strava data which is being posted regularly and looks legit. Cadence is recorded and it would be easy to see if there was something dodgy going on if there were regular drops in cadence as there were on the recent 100x100k run in India. With this data the only way to fake it I guess would be a substitute runner or a techie working on the data in the rv. With Mimi’s previous track record that would seem unlikely to say the least.
Neil Bryant
Previous track record means nothing to some people though. If you really wanted to run with her I'm guessing that if you were in a car it wouldn't actually be difficult to find her would it?
Richard Weremiuk
Exactly right Andy. she is wearing two Suunto I believe for that. The Tracker's data is really to facilitate meet up, not evidence speed or cadence
Andy Persson
Just what I was thinking Neil Maybe I’ve watched too many movies but they seem to have a lot of long straight roads out there. Not like trying to chase someone round Norfolk"
The above is clueless hogwash simpleton banter. Strava data is too easily spoofed/cleaned, because it is downloaded after the fact. It is live tracking data, provided in near realtime that tells the story and reveals the flaws. That is true whether or not someone shows up unexpectedly. Without 100% live tracking, the attempt is not valid, regardless of the strava uploads.
I want to put out that I think the Race Drone GPS tracker is fine for tracking and it is a red herring to compare it to the Garmin Inreach Sandy uses. Both have pluses and minuses and are suitable.
The problem is that Mimi's team has been smack dab in the middle of AT&T cell phone coverage for many days now and claim no signal for their tracker, which I cannot accept.
Scam_Watcheroo wrote:
The problem is that Mimi's team has been smack dab in the middle of AT&T cell phone coverage for many days now and claim no signal for their tracker, which I cannot accept.
A guy i know in Kansas travels the state and he thinks verizon totality coverage is better than ATT. I've used ATT several places around the country.
kmlkojono wrote:
Scam_Watcheroo wrote:The problem is that Mimi's team has been smack dab in the middle of AT&T cell phone coverage for many days now and claim no signal for their tracker, which I cannot accept.
A guy i know in Kansas travels the state and he thinks verizon totality coverage is better than ATT. I've used ATT several places around the country.
Regardless, are the chosen GPS loggers that crappy that they don't have onboard memory to data log during dropouts. The excuses aren't making sense.
kmlkojono wrote:
smells fishy wrote:They did test it apparently. Richard Race Drone says they took his trackers on recces over there and never reported any issues, so this is all just nonsense.
Oh look who is piping up - Andy Persson who heavily defended Rob Young!
"Andy Persson
The letsrun thread does seem to be heavily focused on the live tracking. The main purpose of that is presumably if people want to find Mimi to run with her. I would have thought the weight of evidence is more on the Strava data which is being posted regularly and looks legit. Cadence is recorded and it would be easy to see if there was something dodgy going on if there were regular drops in cadence as there were on the recent 100x100k run in India. With this data the only way to fake it I guess would be a substitute runner or a techie working on the data in the rv. With Mimi’s previous track record that would seem unlikely to say the least.
Neil Bryant
Previous track record means nothing to some people though. If you really wanted to run with her I'm guessing that if you were in a car it wouldn't actually be difficult to find her would it?
Richard Weremiuk
Exactly right Andy. she is wearing two Suunto I believe for that. The Tracker's data is really to facilitate meet up, not evidence speed or cadence
Andy Persson
Just what I was thinking Neil Maybe I’ve watched too many movies but they seem to have a lot of long straight roads out there. Not like trying to chase someone round Norfolk"
The above is clueless hogwash simpleton banter. Strava data is too easily spoofed/cleaned, because it is downloaded after the fact. It is live tracking data, provided in near realtime that tells the story and reveals the flaws. That is true whether or not someone shows up unexpectedly. Without 100% live tracking, the attempt is not valid, regardless of the strava uploads.
Totally agree. You need all these things.
More drivel on the facebook group. We must not question Ms Marvellous in any way or get defriended!
"Mark Cockbain
Anyone that suggests anything dodgy going on gets defriended
Richard Weremiuk
Totally agree. Mimi is one athlete beyond question in terms of her integrity . I am however in serious disagreement with a member of her team regarding their misuse of the trackers to the point they are going to have to send them back"
Am I reading that right? The guy who provided the trackers is now demanding them back?
What a #$%show this all is...
How is Sandra doing on her run? Is she still on track to beat the record?
Wow, just wow.
Something interesting might happen in the next 15-20 minutes. Based on my best guess, Sandy and Mimi will both stop for a lunch break.
Sandy will have covered 29 miles. And stop at Flat Canyon Campground.
Mimi 31 miles. And stop at what appears to a rest stop.
Am I reading that right wrote:
Am I reading that right? The guy who provided the trackers is now demanding them back?
What a #$%show this all is...
Correct! They had the trackers on recces out there, so no excuse for cocking up.
This has been planned for years and every detail should have been sorted, especially something as important as the live tracker.
So what are they planning on using for the three trackers now??
Am I reading that right wrote:
Am I reading that right? The guy who provided the trackers is now demanding them back?
What a #$%show this all is...
The tracker currently says Mimi is going 6 (MPH?) with 15 meters accuracy. Is that Richard dude the designer of the tracker map. For one thing, it isn't clear if speed is in MPH or KiloPH. And the playback of data on the map is rubbish.
Scam_Watcheroo wrote:
How is Sandra doing on her run? Is she still on track to beat the record?
She is averaging 53 miles per day. She need to stay above 48.3 miles per day.
Sandy's run is planned as 3067 miles. The unofficial record is 63.5 days (68 days for Guinness).
kmlkojono wrote:
The tracker currently says Mimi is going 6 (MPH?) with 15 meters accuracy. Is that Richard dude the designer of the tracker map. For one thing, it isn't clear if speed is in MPH or KiloPH. And the playback of data on the map is rubbish.
She has been wavering between Speed 6 and 4. It has to be MPH to make sense...but 6MPH is unbelievably fast.
kmlkojono wrote:
Am I reading that right wrote:Am I reading that right? The guy who provided the trackers is now demanding them back?
What a #$%show this all is...
The tracker currently says Mimi is going 6 (MPH?) with 15 meters accuracy. Is that Richard dude the designer of the tracker map. For one thing, it isn't clear if speed is in MPH or KiloPH. And the playback of data on the map is rubbish.
On Mimi's main webpage (not the direct, full screen tracking page) the tracking page specifically states MPH.
Someone upthread said that Richard is the owner of the tracker company.