This thread was deleted by a volunteer moderator. I certainly don't want a thread this big deleted so I've restored. THat being said, this thread has served it's purpose. I've closed it to new posts.
We have a new 2024 vaccine thread here. New people don't need to try to wade through 20,000 posts to figure out what is going on.
It's a New Year and it's time to consolidate some of the covid threads. We've deleted hundreds of them but it just makes more sense to be official about consolidation. So this thread is for anything related to the Covid vaccine. If you start other threads related to the vaccine they will be deleted or merged with this one. If there is a reason you believe something deserves it's own thread, please email before starting the thread. And use the "report a post" function to report objectionable posts or posts where people insult one another.FYI: Also a reminder that none of the Covid threads on letsrun are indexed by google.
Stop feeding the antivaxxer! They thrive on attention 🤡🤡
Not quite the question. Has it actually been used prior to COVID? Like widespread? I don't care about what they did in the lab. I wanna know if it's ever been injected into people
mRNA vaccines from various companies and research centers had been in human trials since 2013 or so. Nucleic acid lipid nanoparticle deliver for even longer!
Here's the caveat. I'm not necessarily saying they aren't vaccines. They stimulate the immune system to produce a memory of said antigen. Therefore they're vaccines. That being said, they can still be under the category of gene therapy. They're not mutually exclusive.
Okay. Here's this: For what has mRNA tech been used prior to COVID? From Moderna that is.
I don't expect you to find anything. Because there's nothing. They've never been used before v
Just wrong. It's been used in many trials. For example here's one for a rabies vaccine from 2014. Not from Moderna but I don't understand why it needs to be from that company.
Here's the caveat. I'm not necessarily saying they aren't vaccines. They stimulate the immune system to produce a memory of said antigen. Therefore they're vaccines. That being said, they can still be under the category of gene therapy. They're not mutually exclusive.
Sure if you say that “delivering something that causes expression of a gene product” is gene therapy then many things fall into “gene therapy.” So I don’t see what’s so scary!
Using misdefined buzz words to instill fear doesn’t go very far among the rational
Okay. Here's this: For what has mRNA tech been used prior to COVID? From Moderna that is.
I don't expect you to find anything. Because there's nothing. They've never been used before v
Just wrong. It's been used in many trials. For example here's one for a rabies vaccine from 2014. Not from Moderna but I don't understand why it needs to be from that company.
That all I was suggesting. Congratulations for finally understanding.
You’re suggesting that if you get make up the definitions for things… then your definitions can’t be wrong? Again… agreed. But I don’t think you’re making the point you want here :)
ChatGPT has produced a pretty good synthesis of Harambe-posting after being trained on only a handful of posts:
Harambe: It's beyond ridiculous to see the endless fearmongering by those who seem to want the pandemic to last forever. Who would have thought antivaxxers would be the ones fighting for "permanent COVID"? Newsflash: the vaccine has been proven to be a net benefit for all age groups for which it is approved. If you can't keep up with the data, then maybe you shouldn't speak with such certainty. And for the love of all things good, can someone please educate the "Boomers" on basic statistics? It's clear that vaccines are effective in preventing hospitalization, with 92% protection in NY during the Omicron surge. But of course, the antivaxxers will just keep "wait two weeks"-ing us forever, because admitting they were wrong is apparently too much to ask. As for the FDA's decision on Aduhelm, it has nothing to do with the vaccine debate. Let's trust the scientists and doctors advising the Ontario government, rather than blindly quoting raw stats without accounting for any confounding factors. It's time for the antivaxxers to face the truth: vaccines work to prevent severe disease from COVID-19.
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