These guys are dug in... and delusional. Rotary claiming the record attempt is still on and the course has been measured. This is as of an hour ago, TODAY... it just keeps getting better!
See visitors posts on the left side:
https://www.facebook.com/Quakertown-Rotary-103306433084073/
James Mills - "Is the record attempt still going ahead? This is now attracting attention from across the pond."
Rotary - "Yes. I spoke with Jill yesterday, and she is feeling good."
No doubt a publicity stunt. Technically speaking, it's not false advertising. I'm chasing the world record when I run a local 5k this Sunday.
I say she goes out at AR pace and then fakes an injury at mile 3 or so. That's the only way everyone saves face.
Eh...I change my answer. I think she has a solid 10 minutes of 5:15 pace in her. Then she goes down.
Actually... wrote:
I say she goes out at AR pace and then fakes an injury at mile 3 or so. That's the only way everyone saves face.
AR pace is sub 16 through 5k, which would still be a hell of a thing.
this...
it's definitely for marketing purposes.
just a weird move to get a race "on the map"
The RD can't or won't provide the USATF course certification number. His response...
"We were informed that the course was measured by a USATF Road Course Certifier, the start/finish had to be moved slightly, and is now certified. The course certifier will also be on hand at the race. We were told that he will ride in the lead car, to verify the course is followed correctly."
We were informed, we were told, etc. etc. What?
I've never been involved with the process, but as I read the USATF procedures, don't you have to hire someone to measure the course, or in the alternative, do it yourself following USATF guidelines, then submit all required documents to the certifier in your state? The USATF just doesn't come in and do this all for you for free.
Actually... wrote:
Eh...I change my answer. I think she has a solid 10 minutes of 5:15 pace in her. Then she goes down.
You think this random middle-aged woman who's never raced before can run what's basically a 10:30 2 mile? If this woman is even real I'd be shocked if she could run 1 mile in 5:15.
bigtool05 wrote:
Actually... wrote:Eh...I change my answer. I think she has a solid 10 minutes of 5:15 pace in her. Then she goes down.
You think this random middle-aged woman who's never raced before can run what's basically a 10:30 2 mile? If this woman is even real I'd be shocked if she could run 1 mile in 5:15.
Exactly. The AR isn't happening obviously and I'd be very surprised if she could run a half mile at that pace. Even finishing in under 65 would shock me.
RD is babbling wrote:
The RD can't or won't provide the USATF course certification number. His response...
"We were informed that the course was measured by a USATF Road Course Certifier, the start/finish had to be moved slightly, and is now certified. The course certifier will also be on hand at the race. We were told that he will ride in the lead car, to verify the course is followed correctly."
We were informed, we were told, etc. etc. What?
I've never been involved with the process, but as I read the USATF procedures, don't you have to hire someone to measure the course, or in the alternative, do it yourself following USATF guidelines, then submit all required documents to the certifier in your state? The USATF just doesn't come in and do this all for you for free.
http://www.usatf.org/Products-/-Services/Course-Certifications/USATF-Certified-Courses/Certify-Your-Course.aspx
So the course has been measured by a USATF road course certifier meaning someone who does that for USATF but not necessarily certified by USATF. A slight difference but important.
And all info comes from the title sponsor so the RD has no personal knowledge of certification.
Odd or off.
Doea anyone think she will even win her age group?
600 yards at sub-5 pace, then a mystery injury. But I think she'll DNS instead.
They also announced that the 10 mile and 4 mile share the same first mile, and competitors are free to do either course regardless what they signed up for. That's got cheating written all over it, maybe they'll use that as a way for her to finish in near record time. Wonder if they have any timing mats on the ten mile course beyond that first mile.
I checked earlier this morning and there is no certified 10mi course in Quakertown listed on the USATF website. I also emailed Bill Belleville who does almost all the certifying in PA. He is no longer doing course certifications, but said there is quite a lead time to get it certified.
From Facebook: "Keep in mind that the Qakertown Rotary was not involved in this process, and everything was handled by our title sponsor. All information updates we have received have been from the sponsor."
the title sponsor, a.k.a. the run doctor. Sounds like the RD is shifting the blame to Dr. Sedicum.
But really? The RD is not involved at all in the certification process but it's all done through the sponsor?
Is the RD a co-conspirator as we've been thinking or a dupe?
biddles wrote:
I checked earlier this morning and there is no certified 10mi course in Quakertown listed on the USATF website. I also emailed Bill Belleville who does almost all the certifying in PA. He is no longer doing course certifications, but said there is quite a lead time to get it certified.
Perhaps therein lies the exit strategy... "We couldn't get the course certified in time, so Jill decided not to run knowing her AR would not be ratified."
I hope we have photography and preferably video lined up for this mega event?
Latest, they expect the certified course number to be issued today or tomorrow.
"I just spoke with the USATF course measurer regarding instructions for Saturday as well as the course #. The course # has not been issued yet, but he expects it to be today or tomorrow, after the paperwork has been completed by the certifier."
Are pics of Jill available?
Definitely this, totally nailed it.