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God forbid he try to get a good shot of the person trying to murder him. The way she accelerated, no way he could have jumped out of the way. The only reason he ended up beside the car was because she hit him and knocked him to the side. Thankfully, he didnt go straight down or that monster would have happily run him over. Good riddance.

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ICE Shooter Allegedly a Grindr User After Profile Tied to His Snapchat Vanishes Overnight

Sources believe the now-deleted Grindr is linked to Jonathan Ross, the ICE agent who shot the mother of three in Minneapolis, but no evidence has verified the claims.

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But he did both. He got off three shots and got out of the way. If she was really trying to kill him, she would have driving the vehicle straight at him. She was turning the wheel from the moment she put the vehicle into drive so she could drive down the street and leave the scene as she had previously been directed to do by ICE agents.

You can very clearly see her wheels spin on the ice while they are pointed to the left. That is not up for debate. It is very clear in the footage.

Exactly. He was only able to fire two shots through the driver-side window because the front of the car had already moved past him at that point, posing no further danger to him (this is also why he was able to remain upright despite the initial, glancing contact, with his phone in his left hand, pointed steadily throughout). He was no longer in any danger by the time he fired the second two shots. This is indisputable. She no longer had any means of threatening him, having already moved the car out of his path (the reason it came to rest perfectly perpendicular to the curb).

This was murder as revenge for her and her wife's presence, their defiance, and for fitting the bill as enemies of M@GA. Plain and simple.

It's was a small battle in the one-sided civil war that M@GA has been vocally jonesing for for years now. And there will be more of the same, because of the clear license Trump and Co. have been giving their supporters to commit violence for the cause.

Except she wasn’t told to leave the scene. She was asked to get out of the vehicle. She did not comply with that request. Instead she accelerated abruptly in the direction of an officer. Between when she hit the officer and was fired upon was a fraction of a second. The officer didn’t have a long period of time to react and determine the driver’s intentions. It was immediate. People who wait to determine someone’s intentions often end up dead.

Although the second and third shots have considerably worse optics, the bar is 'opening fire', she crossed the bar to exceed this at the 'assault with a deadly weapon stage'.

Procedurally the second and third shots are much less significant.

Why was this Loser renee blocking traffic? Why was her wife, LOL, outside the car filming? Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. Should've been with her kids or at work, probably HR. Living on the divorce settlement money? Big L for the ex-husband. More ICE Patriots are on the way, as are the FBI for those fraudulent somalians, 80% of whom are on government assistance. Losers!

In what direction now?

As I previously pointed out to another poster a few posts up, the tire is turned left when she hits the accelerator and loses traction, causing the tires to spin. It’s clear as day in video and isn’t up for debate.

There is much that can be debated surrounding this incident. The direction of her tires when she attempts to drive forward is most certainly not one of those things.

Complete BS. He’s 100% responsible for every round that he shoots. An initial fear-of-death, even if it actually happened in this case, doesn’t justify every shot or other action that follows.

If you don’t have enough control to stop shooting when a threat has passed (at least two-thirds of this event), don’t ever start shooting.

As you no doubt know, but don’t admit:

One need not be directly in front of a vehicle to put a bullet into the windshield.

Specific to this case, both of his feet are clearly to the left of the vehicle when he took the first shot.

There is no unambiguous evidence that the vehicle ever touched his body.

He took two more head shots with absolutely no justification.

This post is mainly just an expression of hate against people you disagree with politically. You don't care about the truth of any of it. You just like it that someone you hate for political reason is dead, no matter how completely minor the person in the grand scheme of things. You're so full of hate that the death of even the most minor object thrills you.

As for "what she was going blocking traffic", it's called civil disobedience, exactly the same as, say, demonstrating in front of a public building, such as the Capitol.

And when people say dumb shiit like "FAFO", or "play stupid games..." they seem to think that cops are forces of nature, like grizzly bears, incapable of, or maybe not required to apply, critical professional deliberation to a situation. But the fact that they are trained at all before working in the job presupposes that they assumed to be capable of, and then required to do, precisely this!

Cops are not just given guns and told they are allowed to act on impulse when they think a citizen is "FA". They are told to apply appropriate force and to reduce harm as a first principles. That was clearly not what was happening in this situation, which was a somewhat difficult one for the cops, but had, until they escalated the situation (why not just say "please move along lady?" rather than rush over and try to pull her from the vehicle?)., been an entirely peaceful one. No one needed to die here, and you're disgusting if you enjoy that someone did.

And let me know when you hear an actual cop publicly say, about a person engaged in civil disobedience, that they were "F'ing A" and deserve to "FO", in the form of state sanctioned violence. This is 100% contrary to their training, and for a good reason.

People who say things like this are simply getting off on violence against people they don't like. Any professional law enforcement officer would be summarily fired for saying this about ANY citizen who'd been shot. A citizen exercising his/her/their constitutional rights is never "F'ing Around" What YOU"RE doing F'ing Around. And you're completely FOS.

What an awful thing to say. You can be gay and serve in ICE. Using Grindr isn't a reflection of your character. It's completely legal, and nobody's business but the person who chooses to use it, to boot.

This argument finds a neat parallel in reports on the left that Renee Good was anti-ICE and liked to sing and write poetry. As an American, you can do all three and you shouldn't be judged for it.

They might get a driving infringement. They aren't shot in the head.

That question relies on whether it was reasonable in the circumstances for the agent to take the view his life was in danger. Without that his actions could not be justified.

Jonathan Ross is a gay man.

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Jonathan Ross: Bizarre claims about ICE agent's Grindr, Snapchat emerge; married to Filipino wife

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Jonathan Ross was identified as the ICE agent who shot and killed a driver, Renee Nicole Good, in Minneapolis earlier this week.

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Did a lifetime of frustration cause him to be too angry?

You are deranged. The only person intent on murder here was the ICE agent.

Bulls-eye.