Could Webb be faster than Ritz at 10K if he trained for it?

Flagpole is no different from 75% of the posters on Letsrun. He speaks with an unmerited self-confidence about things that nobody can possibly know for certain. In this case, his own prediction turned out to be a pit-viper that bit him in the badonk-a-donk.

But he's no different, again, than 75% of y'all. Letsrun is many things, but it's certainly not a breeding ground for moderation, humility, wisdom softened by knowledge of how the world really works--i.e., its ability to frustrate and/or exceed all predictions.

Do I think Flagpole will lead the way in The New Humility?

No.

Still, we might all learn a lesson here. Don't confuse brash, self-assured advocacy with wisdom. Take it for what it is: chatter.

flagpole = fraud wrote:

Convenient how the Flagpole Willy manages to vanish from the boards when proven an inept moron.

Well, had to be out of town in Wisconsin and away from computers (except for one post I made from the hotel lobby computer) Sunday and Monday for a funeral. Sorry, but funerals take priority over running. Every day.

heh heh, heh heh, he said "badonk-a-donk," heh heh.

Congratulations on the quote of the day.

Well, we all make mistakes. Just say you were wrong, Flagpole, and move on. Sorry about the a) funeral and b) quote of the day for everyone to see.

Look at George W Bush. He was wrong too, wasn't he?

In a few months from now will you all beat up on me for saying: Webb will NOT run an AR Mile this year. One reason = this 10000m race.

at the end of the day both Ritz and Webb are the future of American distance running, and it's damned exciting to watch. Yes, Webb ran a great race and beat Ritz at the finish of the 10k. But both guys ran great races, as did Fam. Great to see three young guys running 27:30s. Webb will probably rewrite his PR's again this summer.........it would be great to see him get that 800m down to 1:45.0 also. Webb has a good shot at 13:00 this summer, although he may fall just short. Sub 3:30 (AR) for 1500m has to be his main goal, along with BK's American record over 3000m. Ritz needs to break 13:10 and also trim his 10k time at one of the European meets, hopefully he can improve to around 27:20, if he can mainatain his health and form until July/August. Lets give both of these guys credit on great season openers...........but also be aware that there are more important battles to come this summer. The fact that Tim Broe has been quiet this winter probably means he'll be ready for a monster season over 5k this summer

Post & thought of the day. Bravo.

au contraire wrote:

Flagpole is no different from 75% of the posters on Letsrun. He speaks with an unmerited self-confidence about things that nobody can possibly know for certain. In this case, his own prediction turned out to be a pit-viper that bit him in the badonk-a-donk.

But he's no different, again, than 75% of y'all. Letsrun is many things, but it's certainly not a breeding ground for moderation, humility, wisdom softened by knowledge of how the world really works--i.e., its ability to frustrate and/or exceed all predictions.

Do I think Flagpole will lead the way in The New Humility?

No.

Still, we might all learn a lesson here. Don't confuse brash, self-assured advocacy with wisdom. Take it for what it is: chatter.

Flagpole Willy wrote:

I'll actually answer without being the smart ass the others are being.

1) Actually Webb can't beat Ritz at 2 miles. Never has and never will (assuming both are properly trained and uninjured and not ill).

2) Webb could try the rest of his career and not be able to beat Ritz at 10,000 meters. The same is true in the other direction. Ritz has no chance to beat Webb at 2000 meters on down.

3) Yes Webb could be a good 10,000 runner, even a slightly competitive one. Ritz though is and will continue to be a GREAT 10,000 runner. 27:38 for a first try? Are you kidding me? Webb has NO shot at being that good in the 10,000, and Ritz is only going to get better.

WOW, you sure set us straight on that.

He already is, and he's not "properly trained" for it.

Bottom line, Flagpole: if you're gonna talk the talk, you gotta walk the walk.

But then your father wasn't a real man either.

I'd shit my pants if Flagpole's wife ever read these boards and realized what a numbskull pig she married.

make that 'prolific numbskull pig'

I love Alan Webb cuz he made that Flagpole idiot look like the moron he really is.

We should all buy him a beer for that alone.

maybe she doesn't care if he knows everything about running??

webb has already beaten ritz at the 2 mile.

2-Mile 2-Mile 3000

Athlete Affiliation Time Time

1 Eluide Kipchoge Kenya 8:07.68 * 7:35.44

***

2 Alan Webb USA 8:11.48 ** 7:39.28

3 Boaz Cheboiywo Kenya 8:11.62 7:39.22

4 Shadrack Kosgei Kenya 8:16.02 7:42.67

5 Mulugeta Wendimu Ethiopia 8:19.81 7:44.32

6 Dathan Ritzenhein USA 8:23.45 7:48.09

pardon if this was already stated, i kinda was scanning by the last few pages of garbage.

Goober Dan wrote:

I love Alan Webb cuz he made that Flagpole idiot look like the moron he really is.

We should all buy him a beer for that alone.

I love how everyone is saying Flagpole is a moron when I'd bet if you'd had a poll last year asking the question "Can Alan Webb beat Dathan Ritzenhein in the 10,000m?" the results would have been over 50% for No. Since you obviously knew differently last year, please post where you made a statement disagreeing with Flagpole.

Dude, Flagpole IS a moron. Few are as perpetually and incessantly arrogant or pig-headed as the Flag. Which, in and of itself, could possibly be tolerable IF THE MORON WASN'T SO CONSISTENTLY IGNORANT AND UNINFORMED IN MANY MATTERS HE BELIEVES -- EVEN PROCLAIMS -- HIMSELF AN EXPERT.

Ok, maybe "moron" is a tad strong.

Can we all agree on "know-it-all"?

I leave you with this thought, posted by another in a different thread:

"If one were only to kick the door in, the whole rotten structure that is Flagpole Willy would come crashing down."

Flagpole Willy wrote:

The thing is that when Ritz beats Webb like I say, everyone who screamed that Webb would DESTROY Ritz will either be silent or will have excuses for Webb.

The silence is, indeed deafening.

Why hasn't the Flagpole owned up? Is he hypocritical?

Well done Webb