OREGON - Smith gone - who will be the interim coach?

try to find one oregon distance runner who liked him.

Yeah Smith is gone. We won but with billions of reasons why did you ever doubt we would make it happen. Just because Smith is the Best Track coach to ever coach at Oregon Much better than Dellinger and about the Same as Bowerman) "I can back that up with FACTS" you thought that might save him? you are wrong!!!

The track team is the best they have been in 20-30 years. brilliant move. Now we can go back to being poor again.

The great part is that Rupp can join the team. And in two years the NCAA can fine and suspend our program. I doubt that there is any sane person that really believes that Rupp is NCAA eligible. My opinion is The only way that he will be able to run is if Rupp and ALSAL and NIKE all conspire defraud a willingly ignorant Oregon.

NCAA violations, NIKE sponsorship, NO real control for a coach. The U of O program has never looked so good. So good for the other PAC ten Teams that is.

Is there anyone out there that is really so naive or stupid as to believe that Smith was not ousted by NIKE?

If there is please continue to post your lame hateful and foolish posts. I am. I have no problems showing my stupidity for all to see.

Tyson is coming in to coach the distance runners. Oh boy, a high school coach. He has a resume that is better than Smith's. NOT!!!!! At least he won't have to deal with ALSAL poisoning the well and then complaining because there is not enough water.

We vocal alums have no shame, no heart and very little gray matter. but we are passionate!!!!

Easy: Steve Fein. However, it should be noted that Smith was being paid to produce results, not to be a chum to the athletes.

Dustin Lamareaux wrote:

try to find one oregon distance runner who liked him.

The best track coach in the last 20-30 years???? Did I miss some NCAA championships that Oregon won in the last few years? He might and I emphasize *might* be close to Dellinger as a coach, but as a person he isn't even in the same hemisphere and in Eugene that counts (as it should). He couldn't carry Bowermans hat.

Coaching 101-don't come in and piss everyone around town off. It wouldn't have taken anything more than some common freakin human courtesy for everyone around the Duck program to be in Martin's court, but he just figured that he was the only genius in town. He could get away with being abrasive in Madison when he wasn't the head track coach, but when you're the head track coach, there are public relations type duties that are expected of you. When you go into a new situation, you figure out who the major players are and what they can do for your program and you get along with them.

I give Scott Fry big props for sticking up for his coach. But really Scott, Schumacher is fine where he is right now. There are actually other great distance coaches than those who either were or are at Wisconsin right now.

What about Pat Tyson

Martin was prevented from giving any distance scholarships for the last two years...he had to hold them for the op group. The ducks were recently 5th at nationals in cross with less then three distance scholarships...I would guess to say that every other team that year in the top 10 had at least 5 distance scholarships.

The Portland group got what they wanted but it took a new basketball arena to get it. But first they had to dry up his recruiting ability in the distances.

How do you spell relief from Martin Indigestion?

P-A-T-- T-Y-S-O-N ! ! ! !

At the end of the day does any of the crap really matter? What's done is done however and by whoever it was accomplished and for whatever reason. Obviously there was a lot going on and many people including Coach Smith had a hand in his leaving Oregon. What matters is where the program is at the end of this year for the current athletes and where it will be in three years - once the current athletes who are scoring points are gone. It really is about them now. You can argue Nike did it or Nike didn't do it, the community did it or didn't cause it, Martin brought it on himself or didn't but at the end of the day it doesn't matter. Those kids have a meet tomorrow and have just lost their head coach. They have lost their leader. For some of them (most of the point makers) this is the second time they have experienced losing a coach and someone they felt was their leader at the start of the outdoor season and that is tough on them. Instead of stirring the pot like little old lady gossips and making things worse - we know the athletes read this site - why can't we all just encourage the athletes?

Found one! wrote:

Easy: Steve Fein. However, it should be noted that Smith was being paid to produce results, not to be a chum to the athletes.

Dustin Lamareaux wrote:

try to find one oregon distance runner who liked him.

Easy again. He's got (or had until today) a team of partial scholarship and walk ons (even a 4:18 miler) who liked him. In his 27 years of Div. I coaching most of his runners either liked or loved him, but yes...a few hated him....gee, that sounds about like every other coach in college. The ones who didn't like him were very vocal...the guys who like him were not vocal...we have better things to do, like raise a families, work and pay taxes, not whine about how the coach was mean to us at practice, which we desevered that day anyway .

Dustin Lamareaux wrote:

try to find one oregon distance runner who liked him.

Hartman

Sorry, he was very abusive even for a coach.

According to the spoiled kids of today..........

Fineman... wrote:

Sorry, he was very abusive even for a coach.

Yeah it probably will set the program back considering the guys Salazar is currently coaching and the recruiting ability Tyson would have. They would win nats in xc within 3 years

Pretty reactive and paranoid aren't you..you sound like the type to just burn down Hayward Field...that'll show NIKE! I am sure Adidas and Reebok are now going to RISE up out of the murky swamps of sports and take over running the track programs! If they haven't taken over the $$$$ making football and basketball teams and are telling AD's who can coach them what makes you think they are going to give a flaming flip about the track programs? Belotti still has a job and Ernie Kent still has a job and I don't see great seasons for either. Knight has a personal interest in track and field but if track was really that personal to him don't you think he would be out there trying to invest money nationally to keep it alive? Don't you think he would put his marketing geniuses at NIKE to work to promote it on TV adn through every other medium possible? Instead of watching pool, golf and poker there might be some good track meets on TV. Track Programs are failing and being dropped everywhere and Nike invests millions and probably billions in GOLF promotions! Yes, I would say this is just the beginning of the takeover of the AD's and track coaches should be very afraid of the companies sponsoring their programs - they are plotting to come after them.

u pussy wrote:According to the spoiled kids of today..........

Fineman... wrote:

Sorry, he was very abusive even for a coach.

Sorry. I disagree. By most standards today his coaching style would be considered abusive. Bob Knight got fired for what he did with his athletes. Had Coach Smith been televised he might have been known as the 'Bob Knight' of distance coaching. That doesn't mean he was a bad person nor is Bob Knight. Both are very passionate and don't tolerate less than the best and less than could bring out the worst in both of them.

Because Tyson has recruited numerous collegiate All-Americans away from the likes of McDonnell and Wetmore? Because Salazar has coached Chad Johnson, Philemon Hanneck, Mike Donnelly, Karl Keska, Tom McArdle, and Dave Davis to great marathons? The details surrounding Smith's departure give every top collegiate coaching staff ammo to use against Oregon ("they're only interested in grooming Rupp" "the head coach has psychological issues and requires medication" "the head coach will make you use p.e.d.'s" "they'll be sanctioned on NCAA probation before your junior year" "they aren't interested in a complete team that can win track nationals there" "the donors have more control over the program than the administration does")

Just the facts... wrote:

Pretty reactive and paranoid aren't you..

Nope, and not naive like you, either.

Just the facts... wrote:

Sorry. I disagree. By most standards today his coaching style would be considered abusive. Bob Knight got fired for what he did with his athletes.

I don't care if you disagree, you're WRONG. The incident that got Knight ousted from Indiana had nothing to do with his athletes.

Nobody liked Martin... Hitler even thought he was abusive.

Nobodys blaming you Shelf Ass!!!