i support larry bonds.
justaguess wrote:
About when Barry Bonds and Roger Clements confess.
i support larry bonds.
justaguess wrote:
About when Barry Bonds and Roger Clements confess.
Clemens had the balls and money to fight it and has won for now.....Barry don't have to do nothing as US government won't be seen prosecuting black superstar.....Lance will not admit anything but is too smart with his money to fight an expensive losing cause....he'll get money via interviews and winning safe lawsuits that prohibit him from entering tri-athlons and stuff... even if you think Lance is guilty he does have the right to earn a living in another sport....
What would he gain by admitting the truth?
Yes, he'd get it off his chest and could begin the search for redemption.
But in terms of the real, material world, what would he gain?
Lance who? i dont pay much attention to "elite" athletes bcz many cheat at some point or they ignore friends and Fam when competition is around. that said, Lance will confess when the ppl holding his $ stream tells him to. All that attention paid to a cheater. All those "isnt he great" moments down the drain. So many wannabees looking in the mirror now :) LOsers! Let the weaklings be strung up and questioned the old inquisitor way. Might not be a trustworthy confession but im sure the ppl who lost big will enjoy the squirming. or the day after the world ends- which ever is sooner :P
Lance should confess he gave the impression he used drugs to teammates in order to convince them to use drugs and help him win the tour. he should admit to getting his teammates drugs because he was afraid they were not strong enough riders to lead him through the mountain stages. he can basically say. i told you i never used drugs, but i lied about not getting drugs for my teammates. he can say he kept vials of epo in his fridge to sell the idea he was using to other teammates.
NEVER. It would be too expensive (lawsuits) to confess at this point.
Never.
Unless it is part of a plea agreement which spares him money or time in jail. And even then it will only be enough crumbs to spare him. Never full disclosure
I was a Lance supporter for the longest time, but with recent evidence I cannot continue. I hope he just comes clean about the ordeal and surrenders all titles post-cancer. One thing, even though he was probably doped up, I still consider his 7 straight Tour wins an amazing feat. Competing against other doped athletes, finishing each Tour without being involved in a crash, surviving the 3 weeks in the saddle thru all types of weather, and not popping positive for PEDs during this streak.
It isn't a level playing field among 'dopers'
Armstrong won't confess; he's not human enough, despite his claims to be concerned with cancer sufferers and survivors. If he were sincere about any of it, he'd not only confess and make amends, he'd step down from the board at Livestrong and recommend to Livestrong that they ditch their connections with his businesses and his business friends (like the new Livestrong chairman). Until then, Livestrong and its sponsors will continue to suffer as a result of their ties to Armstrong.
I always semi-excused Lance's doping because of the level playing field argument, but the previous poster correctly pointed out that new revelations have made it clear that it was anything but a level playing field.
Bump on this thread because it might be coming soon. Second post in this thread said January 4 - you might be closest. Any more updated guesses now?
jan. 8, 2013
It'll be a while still. He'll have to negotiate full immunity before he will admit anything. I'll say May 10, 2013.
On a side note, what do all those Lance apologists do when there is nowhere left to hide? You know, the ones who said, "He never failed a drug test", "It's all just lying by haters and beaten rivals", "There is no hard evidence", "I believe Lance".
What do these people do? Do they look in the mirror and say, "Jeez, I was such a dumb ass. Maybe I'll try to be a little more realistic next time one of my heros is so obviously cheating." Or does the whole thing just roll off their backs like water off a duck and they'll be exactly as stupid the next time around?
The apologists justify it by declaring everyone in cycling cheated, that he didn't hurt anyone but himself, and and that his curing of cancer is all that really matters. The end justifies the means. Whatever happened to a moral compass?
January 20th.
Uninformed Opinion wrote:
On a side note, what do all those Lance apologists do when there is nowhere left to hide? You know, the ones who said, "He never failed a drug test", "It's all just lying by haters and beaten rivals", "There is no hard evidence", "I believe Lance".
What do these people do? Do they look in the mirror and say, "Jeez, I was such a dumb ass. Maybe I'll try to be a little more realistic next time one of my heros is so obviously cheating." Or does the whole thing just roll off their backs like water off a duck and they'll be exactly as stupid the next time around?
They will say that he was forced into admitting to something that he didn't really do.
Today's the big day, fellas...
Perhaps Lance will admit to taking banned substances, but at a level that didn't pass a threshold resulting in a positive test. (There goes the "witness testimony") Like a former President who said he didn't have sex, maybe Lance believes he didn't dope since he didn't test positive. He might believe a person is a doper if they test positive like those lined up against him, while he isn't a doper because he didn't test positive. That would be a reasonable opinion, and defensible. If you drink and drive are you guilty of DUI even if a bunch of people sawq you drinking or can you be under the threshold? When the regulators break their own rules and give deals to people known to have doped this opens the door for all players in a rigged game to fend for themselves and "play the game".
i said january 4th back in october.
i just read in the nytimes that he will provide a "limited" confession to oprah on monday the 14th. it is supposed to air on thursday the 17th.
i wasn't too far off! but there is no prize :(