fastest marine corps boot camp 3 mile run

Unless you went to bootcamp before 2002 (when I went) you did a 1.5mi, P/U, crunch Initial Strength Test (IST) during your processing week before you were assigned to a series and platoon. When I went through San Diego, the run record was like 14:13, pullups were somewhere around 60, and crunches (max in 2 min) were somewhere around 280. If you went to San Diego, you would've noticed all of this on a sign by the PFT course. I was never a runner in High School or Junior High, so I did atrociously, 24:3X/12/100, no bueno.

Years later, as a Sergeant, I was selected to MECEP. It's basically an enlisted to officer program. By this time I had gotten a bit more fit and could run sub 18 while maxing everything else. In 2008 when I got commissioned, I was running somewhere around 16:45. That was nowhere near the fastest time at The Basic School though. A buddy of mine was the Captain of the Naval Academy XC team, so he was decent enough. I want to say his initial PFT at TBS, which I think he slacked on, was somewhere in the low 14s. I want to say he told me his fastest in college was somewhere in the 13s.

To answer the OP's question, what is good, you have to consider the product that is being put through the depot. Mostly kids from underpriveleged households that have little to no organized athletic background. I would say my initial performance 24:3X/12/100, would be considered average. Good would be around 22:00/15/100.

Probably the fastest.

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When I was 32 I scored 300 pts on both the Navy and Marine PFT within a 2 week period in Illinois.

Navy: 100 situps, 70 pushups, 8:05 1.5 mile run.

Marines: 20 pullups, 100 situps, 16:33 3.0 mile run.

Best 1.5 miles 7:42, age 49 (3:28 at 3/4 mile), Virginia.

Best 3.0 miles 15:20, age 35, Japan ekiden relay.

The biggest improvement jump came when I learned to not let my heels bottom out on my foot stroke. This spring I ran two mile races in 4:45 and 4:49 - at age 52.

OCS wrote:

I ran 14:05 for 3 miles during OCS at Quantico. The base record was just over 15 at the time. My gunny knew how fast I had run before and got in my face telling me not to sandbag. Hadn't had more then 2 hours of sleep each night for the week prior.

More THAN 2 hours of sleep,

mike mcmap wrote:

Rme wrote:

I don't think there has been a marine faster than Dan Browne.

Not faster, but more successful: Billy Mills, 1L USMCR.

True that!

Those are cute stunts marks but it's almost 2013 and all we need are ordinary male and females sailors and soldiers to kill the enemy with today's stealth helos, AWACS, pin-point cruise missiles, drones, all weather night scopes, etc.

OBL was easily killed with almost zero risk by regular pilots and regular soldiers who were not beaten senseless in training for years since they were equipped with the best technology, armaments, and aviation engineered by US defense industries.

We can now afford to disband the Marines and save thousand of our children from being permanently maimed, assaulted, and forced to commit suicided in training.

We should always honor on Memorial Day, Veterans Day, Armed Forces Day, ... the Marines and the enormous courage and sacrifice of the Marines in the days we needed them.

Hope this helps.

Dan Browne is part of the Army's World Class Athlete Program.

And the physical correction that may occur in boot camp has absolutely nothing to do with killing people. Additionally, having the best weaponry in the world is completely useless without someone that buys in to a program and has the ability to work within an organization that represents more than him/herself to accomplish a greater goal.

It's not the infantry or pilots that you have an issue with motivating, it's usually the support personnel. It's much more difficult to get your Marines motivated about getting some paperwork processed or grading EP exams than it is to build camaraderie in a Mk19 shoot.

The days ahead of us.......... wrote:

Those are cute stunts marks but it's almost 2013 and all we need are ordinary male and females sailors and soldiers to kill the enemy with today's stealth helos, AWACS, pin-point cruise missiles, drones, all weather night scopes, etc.

OBL was easily killed with almost zero risk by regular pilots and regular soldiers who were not beaten senseless in training for years since they were equipped with the best technology, armaments, and aviation engineered by US defense industries.

We can now afford to disband the Marines and save thousand of our children from being permanently maimed, assaulted, and forced to commit suicided in training.

We should always honor on Memorial Day, Veterans Day, Armed Forces Day, ... the Marines and the enormous courage and sacrifice of the Marines in the days we needed them.

Hope this helps.

I disagree. We still must train men (not women) to the very edge of life in order to build soldiers for suicide attacks and battles whcih they will face certain death. That's the world we live in unfortunately. Sadly, too often training goes beyond what was planned and men die at Quantico, Camp Lejenne, Parris Island, etc.

Billy Mills was a Marine Officer. I don't know if they ran 3 miles back in the 60s but I wouldn't be surprised if he had the record for a while, whatever they ran.

Quoting and Replying to LT -

To answer the OP's question, what is good, you have to consider the product that is being put through the depot. Mostly kids from underpriveleged households that have little to no organized athletic background. I would say my initial performance 24:3X/12/100, would be considered average. Good would be around 22:00/15/100.[/quote]

LT, you missed my question. I didn't ask what was a good time. At the end of the day, I wanted to know about some tough kid who didn't lead a priveleged life and who saw the marine corps as his only way out of an impoverished situation, show up and run a relatively untrained fast time.

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bangalangadanga wrote:

I was kind of curious as to how fast untrained recruits sometimes run the 3 mile pt in boot-camp. To get a perfect score, they need to hit 18:00, but it wouldn't surprise me if some tough SOB busted out a 15:30 or something.

Well back in April 1975 I was a recruit at MCRD San Diego. I ran 17:10 and got my butt kicked by Quiggly(sp) who ran 16:20, who was in a different platoon.

In our series (four platoons of approximately 70 Marines in each platoon) we wore combat boots all during boot camp, even when we ran.

In the Physical Fitness Final(PFT) we had to wear a web belt with a canteen full of water and the boots. PFT Perfect score is 300, 20 pull-ups, 80 sits ups in 80 seconds and three mile run under 18:00( no extra points for doing more pull-ups, sit-ups or going under 18:00).

Even though I lost to Quiggly we had the last laugh. We had raced twice before and each won once.

During series PT the Drill Instructors would make us run together. We ran fast enough to run side by side without dropping each other. We would make it look like we were really going all out. We also knew the DI'S were making bets on who would win. We agreed that no matter who was second that we would win because some DI'S would lose money.

Sorry about that, guess I lost track in my diatribe...

So how many tough as nails kids with little athletic background come from impoverished backgrounds to excel in the run in boot camp? None honestly...unless you have some sort of running background, the pt you do at boot camp, in addition to all of the other fun stuff, isn't designed to make you a better 3miler...pushups? Sure, you can do a shit ton, but not so much with running....

1975? you trained with the M-16. at least you missed 'thumb stings' that we had with the M-14 which arrived at MCRD around 1974 ;-) my score was low the 1st live fire day at edson. the DI made me put my thumb in the chamber and then he released the bolt. naturally my score got better the 2nd day. ouch.

I ran 17:18 fifty-three years ago, with a loaded pack and my drill instructor yelling at me to slow down or I would kill myself (his language was more pungent). At the time it was some kind of course record and my fastest ever 5K I think, though I ran five miles in 27:25 on the roads. Today, without a pack, it takes me 24 minutes at age 72.

i meant the M-16 replaced the M-14 at MCRD.

Everyone does need to realize that these courses aren't USATF certified...

But seriously, it's not like instructors wheel measure these courses or make sure they are exact...cause they are not! You can't compare these times to normal thinking. It's kinda like my college coach having us run the tradional 5 mile run that he has done every year for the last 100 years. I think the record was 22 minutes on that course....

Semper Fi wrote:

... Someone mentioned the ironman award goes to someone who does it multiple times, that's bogus. Whoever scores highest in their graduation class gets it, I got it with a perfect score of 300 of course....

I mentioned the Ironman award. In the summer of 1995 at MCRD PI, to the best of my recollection, that is how the Ironman was determined. Things change. I guess it was different whenever and wherever your recruit training was.

Semper Fi.

bf i went in the crotch i was on acid, seconal, nicotine, alchohol, THC and i ran 18:55 the 1st time. by the last PFT my jaw was bruised, two teeth had been loosened, i limped from a hard throw, i had a huge welt on the side my head under the scalp that would slowly ooze onto the sheets while in the rack, 1/3 of my ribs were black/blue, but i finished 19:15 and passed (please don't laugh). i can't believe it still after all these years i made it.

BOOMHAUER wrote:

Charlie & I were discussing TBS, not boot camp.. The 25 mile hump was something we were evaluated on. You could conceivably fail it & move on, but it didn't look good. There's no way a girl humped her combat load + someone else's - at least not for longer than maybe 1/4 mile, if that..

Why not? I believe it. People start dropping like flies at 20 and it is not a big deal to take your turn carrying packs for the turds towards the end for a few miles. It was not really that tough.