How to begin a paleolithic diet?***

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On Atkins blood lipid profiles (read: heart disease risk) consistently improve relative to other diets.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eREuZEdMAVo

using crappy "lipid profile" argument and giving youtube link as reference? C'mon, it's below any level, even ones acceptable here.

No one care about lipid profiles (maybe except fraud MD's who want to sell crappy cholesterol lowering drugs). Mortality and arteria plaques count.

Maybe you need some more saturated fat in your diet tomtom and you wouldn't come off as an angry vegan.

One of my favorite nutrition books is Superfoods RX. In the whole grain category, he recommends Oats, wheat germ, ground flaxseed, brown rice, barley, wheat, buckwheat, rye, millet, bulgar wheat, amaranth, quinoa, triticale, kamut, yellow corn, wild rice, spelt, and couscous.

There is an entire chapter on these grains--chock full of numerous different studies showing they reduce various diseases, and even summaries of multiple studies, and they also they have fiber and a long list of nutrients.

I admit that I haven't read much about the whole gluten controversy--my eyes learned to skip over those discussions once I read that mostly for people with celiac disease. I am open-minded but just seems curious that an MD writing a book citing endless studies about health would have recommended something proven detrimental.

I've been eating a diet closely resembling paleo for a few years now. I didn't read the entire thread because it probably involves numerous posts from people that haven't tried the diet, and almost certainly don't test their blood levels on a regular basis regardless of their diet.

The true measure of health, in my opinion, has nothing to do with how fast you can run a set distance. It is the state of your blood and the system transporting your blood. How healthy are your arteries? What is your blood sugar? People that are serious about determining the optimal diet for their cardiovascular health get tested regularly by a physician, and test their own blood sugar regularly with glucose monitoring equipment.

Do you know what your blood sugar is right now? Do you know what it is one hour after you eat a specific meal? If you've had blood work done was it an NMR test? That means, when they tell you your LDL number, what percentage of LDL is small particle versus large particle. If you don't know that, you might as well not even have the data because it means nothing. 90% of family practice physicians in the USA don't even know this.

Since changing to the paleo-style diet, my blood sugar has dropped. My blood sugar one hour after a paleo meal is barely raised if at all. Following a conventional "healthy" meal including our lovely whole grains, blood sugar one hour post is off the charts. If you don't know why that's important you shouldn't be commenting on nutrition.

My lipid profile is improved dramatically. My small particle LDL used to be 90% like most people on a high carbohydrate diet have. It's now about 10% after eating a high fat diet (yes, high saturated fat). Again, if you don't know why that is important you shouldn't be commenting on nutrition.

So to attempt to answer your question in a single paragraph, here goes. Vegetables are good. Green leafy vegetables are great. Spinach, kale, collards, dandelion stems, all that stuff you see in the grocery store and don't know what the hell it is:) Fruit is considered healthy because it's a natural food, but keep in mind that they're nothing but sugar. Nothing wrong with eating a piece of fruit, but don't eat it all day and think you're doing your health a favor. Fat is good. Saturated fat is not bad. About 40% of the calories of Mother's Milk is saturated fat, I doubt it's killing us. A wonderful source of saturated fat is coconut oil and milk. Cook with coconut oil. Use olive oil on salads and cold applications. When eating meat or fish, wild varieties are far superior. Wild salmon far superior to farmed. Grass fed beef, bison far superior to grain fed cattle. Pastured chickens and eggs far superior to the disease ridden, garbage fed animals you find in most stores.

It's not cheap to eat this way, but if your cardiovascular health is important to you it's worth every penny.

The one thing that Mr. Durant worries might spook a female guest is his most recent purchase: a three-foot-tall refrigerated meat locker that sits in a corner of his living room. That is where he keeps his organ meat and deer ribs.

Let me know how that dinosaur meat tastes you f***in dumb shit.

For what it's worth I'm enjoying some delicious barbeque flavored pork skins as I type and read here.

tomtom wrote:

lol lol lol lol wrote:

On Atkins blood lipid profiles (read: heart disease risk) consistently improve relative to other diets.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eREuZEdMAVo

using crappy "lipid profile" argument and giving youtube link as reference? C'mon, it's below any level, even ones acceptable here.

No one care about lipid profiles (maybe except fraud MD's who want to sell crappy cholesterol lowering drugs). Mortality and arteria plaques count.

Lipid profiles matter enormously, albeit not in the way we thought they did in 1980, or even 2005.

For example, take two people with identical LDL levels, one of whom eats a high-carb diet and one of whom eats a LC diet, and the LDL of the 2nd person will almost certainly be healthier. Presumably you know why.

Diets high in fiber from whole grains may lead to longer lifehttp://articles.latimes.com/2011/feb/14/news/la-heb-fiber-diet-20110214

Diets high in fiber were linked with a lower risk of death from all causes, as well as death from cardiovascular disease, infectious diseases and respiratory diseases in men and women. Eating fiber was associated with a lower death risk from cancer for men, but the same was not seen in women.

When researchers looked at the effects of the various types of fiber they were eating, they found that consuming grains was most associated with lower risk of all types of death, plus death from cardiovascular disease, cancer and respiratory disease for men and women.

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Diets high in fiber from whole grains may lead to longer life

http://articles.latimes.com/2011/feb/14/news/la-heb-fiber-diet-20110214

Diets high in fiber were linked with a lower risk of death from all causes, as well as death from cardiovascular disease, infectious diseases and respiratory diseases in men and women. Eating fiber was associated with a lower death risk from cancer for men, but the same was not seen in women.

When researchers looked at the effects of the various types of fiber they were eating, they found that consuming grains was most associated with lower risk of all types of death, plus death from cardiovascular disease, cancer and respiratory disease for men and women.

Another associative study. Not only does association not prove causation, but associative studies with health issues such as diet are particularly bad because of this:

"He who lives one hundred years but has not lived a life worth living has missed the point."