The Freedom Movement is the greatest thing happening on the political landscape

Clell Adams wrote:

Who started calling the Tea Party participants racists? The MSM. Usually when someone can't argue the truth reasonably they just resort to calling you names and try to smear you.

Oh, you mean like when people who have led parts of the Tea Party movement like Glenn Beck and Mark Williams called Obama a racist who hates white people, or claim he is a islamic terrorist not born in this country, or when Sarah Palin said Obama was going to have "death panels" in his healthcare bill? That's the type of idiotic people you mean who can't "argue the truth reasonably and resort to calling names to try and smear" their enemies, right? Or the righwing blogger (hardly MSM) who just purposely edited a video of that Sherrod lady to try and smear her as a racist? Or the constant lies and slurs that Rush Limbaugh levels at people he doesn't like? Yeah, the Tea Party, the Freedom movement, and the right wing of US politics is FULL of such numbnut jerkoffs. Yeah, I thought that was what you meant.

People like to use catchy slogans to "burn" their opponents, but people who really know anything or care about this country don't stoop low enough to be so childish and ignorant. I find it really sad and disgusting that people like you can't get over these negative associations with Glenn Beck and Mark Williams. Do you think the Tea Party is homogenous in their worship for Glenn Beck or even Sarah Palin? The Tea Party isn't about Glenn Beck, it's about following the Constitution and restoring freedom. What's this about hating president Obama? I don't hate the president, and I have never accused him of being racist. The Tea Party was around long before Obama was elected, and they are right in principle. But instead of attacking the message, you have chosen to attack several messengers and establishing guilt by association, which is the only way you could possibly pin something on this movement. The Tea Party doesn't do all this stuff you accuse it of, and yet you go on about how much "hypocrisy" we harbor. It is truly unbelievable that you have been brainwashed so thoroughly that you can't see reason or the difference between a movement and people who associate with that movement. When did the movement become all about a few people? It's about all of us.

Basil H. Rathbone wrote:

So your movement is led by an assembly of dead people with little in common? No wonder it's so disorganized and off-message.

The "progressive" movement is led by Marx and Keynes, both of whom are dead. Those who follow their ideas will soon be dead as well.

You are missing the point. The Tea Party has nothing to do with Glenn Beck or anything he said. You can't ask us to explain to you whether or not he represents the tea party because the question has already been answered over and over again. The Tea Party is not a racist movement, and so those who belong to the tea party are not racist. There may be a few in its ranks that act and believe as such, but that has nothing to do with anyone else in the movement. Enough with your put up or shut up crap. We don't have any responsibility toward these individuals you mention. What do you want us to say?

Just because he is very wrong about 5% of what he says, doesn't mean we have to disagree with him on the other 95%. Why is this hard for you to understand? The freedom movement has nothing to do with Glenn Beck's statements, and his audience is irrelevant. People may listen to him because of the 90% of stuff he says that they agree with. Does this discredit the whole basis of the freedom movement? The freedom movement was built on constitutionalism and sound fiscal policy with no unjust wars. The fact that anything we say has gotten associated with racism is simply a result of propaganda levelled against our campaign in order to discredit our movement without actually discussing the substance of our political ideology because people know we're right when we talk about things that are important. So, please, if you have any legitimate criticism of the tea party, then talk about something that is actually relevant to tea party beliefs, and not some crazy fringe person that happens to be a popular entertainer, such as Glenn Beck.

swofford11 wrote:

Louise Farakkahan is a radical fringe of the Left. Very few on the left follow him and almost no one listens to him anymore. He is shock value only and a little crazy and most members of the left see this and denounce him ALL THE TIME, just read a paper after some of his stupid comments.

Glen Beck is not on the fringe of the right. He is one of their biggest mouth pieces. He is hugely popular and million's listen to him and agree with his statements.

Do you honestly think that Farakkahan has the same listening audience as Beck?

If there is a leader of the freedom movement it is Glen Beck. You might not agree with all he says but I guarantee most freedom movement members agree with 95 percent of what he says.

The tea party is a very racist movement. If you can not see that wanting lower government spending and less taxes is very racist, and means you hate black people, you are just an idiot.

Obviously trying not to go 77362874646383727364 dollars into debt is racist, tea party idiots. Now go do something productive with your time, like us liberals, and push papers.

Here is a lengthy list of links to lies spread by the Tea Party proponents.

http://factcheck.org/archives/search-results/?cx=006313184908531579811%3Ahm8n5-dxba0&cof=FORID%3A10%3BNB%3A1&ie=UTF-8&q=Tea+Party&sa=Search#912

Check out this about some of the origins of some of the tea part groups.

Yourazizt wrote:The tea party is a very racist movement. If you can not see that wanting lower government spending and less taxes is very racist, and means you hate black people, you are just an idiot.

Obviously trying not to go 77362874646383727364 dollars into debt is racist, tea party idiots. Now go do something productive with your time, like us liberals, and push papers.

Some facts: No conservatives gave a rip about the deficit until they weren't in charge. The previous VP, a darling of the right, said "Reagan Proved Deficits Don't Matter".

Tea party organizers started going out of their way, including memos to organizers, etc, to cut down on the number of racist signs at their gatherings. They know that there's a preponderance of racists there, they just don't want it to be so obvious.

The Tea Party Express, one of the leading Tea Party groups is lead by a dedicated bigot. He's been asked not to make statements to the press, but not asked to not bring his money.

The various claims made by Tea Party "members" that they have no organization or leaders is hogwash. The only people people that make that statement are liars or idiots. Without the Tea Party Express or FreedomWorks the Tea Party rallys wouldn't happen, there wouldn't have been protests at town hall meetings, and there wouldn't have been a single Tea Party candidate past the primaries. No Fox News, no rally on the mall. They are lemmings standing in for corporate shills.

When all the "Tea Party" hacks got into office all their first acts (and likely only acts) have been to consolidate power and score political points. No jobs producing bills, no deficit reduction of any substance. Instead they redefine rape, attack unions, and go after programs that don't even add up to a rounding error in the budget.