HEPS cross-country, 2010

Apparently DaSilva, Cornell's captain, who ran the open race at Paul Short, has some eligibility problems. I know he was a transfer from Purdue...where, coincidentally, he would have been coached by Jack Warner, son of the former Cornell coach Jack Warner.

566 wrote:

Apparently DaSilva, Cornell's captain, who ran AND WON the open race at Paul Short...

Fixed.

BRF wrote:

Paul Short results:

http://www.paulshortxcrun.com/PaulShort/PSLayer.php

I wasn't there, so I know nothing about how the weather and course conditions may have varied among the different races. Most of the Ivies ran together in the "Gold" races; Princeton (M&W) was separate, running in the "Brown" races with what appear to have been second-line runners. (But I'm not very familiar with Princeton's squads--anyone able to amplify?)

Princeton women A ran at Notre Dame and came 7th, Banfich came 4th.

Princeton men A are running at Wisconsin.

Tigerfan wrote:

BRF wrote:

Paul Short results:

http://www.paulshortxcrun.com/PaulShort/PSLayer.php

I wasn't there, so I know nothing about how the weather and course conditions may have varied among the different races. Most of the Ivies ran together in the "Gold" races; Princeton (M&W) was separate, running in the "Brown" races with what appear to have been second-line runners. (But I'm not very familiar with Princeton's squads--anyone able to amplify?)

Princeton women A ran at Notre Dame and came 7th, Banfich came 4th.

Princeton men A are running at Wisconsin.

Princeton came 3rd at Wisconsin, Don Cabral won and Brian Leung came 11th.

What do men's individual picks look like? I'd say Cabral the favorite. Then what?

Wendell Gee wrote:

What do men's individual picks look like? I'd say Cabral the favorite. Then what?

Dan Chenoweth (H) will be in the top 3.

Also, I don't believe Princeton women will get another 1-2-3-4-5 sweep. Claire Richardson (H) and this Devin McMahon (Cornell) I believe can break them up pretty well.

Harvard women also ran at the Wisconsin Invite, placing 6th in team (beating some ranked teams in the process). Richardson came 9th individually.

Yeah, I'd say the odds are against another 1-5 sweep.

And don't forget McDonough and Drouin of Columbia - McDonough made the NCAA meet in the 5K as a first year and Drouin is a Heps champ on the track. Also, at least one of Harvard's other runners besides Richardson made the NCAA in xc last fall.

Princeton is still the heavy favorite but the rest of the women's heps have improved since last year so a 1-5 sweep would be unrealistic even though the Tigers are still the class of the league.

rlr wrote:

And don't forget McDonough and Drouin of Columbia - McDonough made the NCAA meet in the 5K as a first year and Drouin is a Heps champ on the track. Also, at least one of Harvard's other runners besides Richardson made the NCAA in xc last fall.

That Harvard girl was Kailyn Kuzmuk, who has been more of a 4/5 runner for the squad this year. Jeanne Mack (jr) has been a consistent #2, and I believe she can be top 10 individually now that she finally is having an injury-free season.

A 1-3 sweep is in the cards for the Tiger women, but 1-5 would take a miracle, not to mention a disaster from a few other runners.

New rankings are out:

http://www.ustfccca.org/featured/indiana-men-make-bold-move-to-national-top-ten

Dartmouth Men and Harvard Women make the "also receiving votes" lists after impressive showings at Paul Short and Wisco.

The article states that Princeton is the highest-ranked ivy since they were 14th in '97. Obviously that doesn't make sense since they're 12th right now, anyone know the actual last time someone was ranked higher?

anyone remember where dartmouth was ranked in '05? or at the start of the '06 season? (i know they didn't pan out that year)

another observer wrote:

anyone remember where dartmouth was ranked in '05? or at the start of the '06 season? (i know they didn't pan out that year)

Dartmouth finished 15th at NCAAs, so that would have been their final ranking, and you can assume they would have started there in the beginning of 06.

Weren't Princeton's women ranked top 5 last year or the year before?

Princeton women were ranked 4th at the end of last year, but the original comment was geared towards Ivy men squads.

whoops, sorry, you were just talking men.

I looked it up on Dartmouth's website: they were ranked 17th going into the NCAA meet. I could not find any other rankings from earlier in the year.

Are all the Ivy teams headed to Terra Haute for Friday?

Nathan Leverone wrote:

Are all the Ivy teams headed to Terra Haute for Friday?

"Terre Haute"

Nathan Leverone wrote:

Are all the Ivy teams headed to Terra Haute for Friday?

I believe the Cornell men and women will be at Penn State.

Results from Penn State (women 6,000m, men 5.2mi):

http://www.gopsusports.com/sports/c-xc/stats/2010-2011/psuwomen6k.html

http://www.gopsusports.com/sports/c-xc/stats/2010-2011/psumen5.2m.html

[As usual, subtract a minute (or more) from the men's final times to get a better idea of their 8k pace...]

Cornell men seem to be coming together pretty well. Their 1-5 spread was under a minute, and De Silva, their captain (and 2d team all-Ivy last year) had his first race of the season for the Red. (Earlier eligibility problems?) He's a major addition and strengthens the squad significantly.

The Cornell women continued to shuffle their pecking order, though their freshman McMahon seems to have solidified her #1 status. She's having an outstanding rookie campaign, and finished just ahead of Penn's Kovach yesterday. Both teams finished ahead of Yale and Penn.

Somewhat surprisingly (more so on the men's side) for the Cornell: based on frosh performances in outdoor track, both squads projected dominant performances from their "supersophs" this fall. The sophs have certainly contributed, but not at the level that might have been expected; and the frosh on both squads, though not as highly touted as last year's rookies, have had some very solid performances.

As far as a Heps prediction, looks like both Cornell teams will have a shot at the podium, with the men trying to break up Princeton/Dartmouth/Columbia, and the women looking to beat at least one of the Princeton/Harvard/Columbia squads.

But I'm not sure about the other Ivy teams, especially Brown's women; and would be glad for more info, including appraisals of the teams that *weren't* at PSU yesterday.

Heps course is different this year from last year. Men's is two laps around the field at the northern half of the "flats" then into the woods. Last year it was one big loop around the flats. Middle portion is about the same.

So the first mile is more spectator friendly.