Alminova's result shows the undetectibility of PEDs

trollism wrote:

I've said it before and I'll say it again.

She's only getting ripped like this because she's Russian.

She probably is doping, everyone knows that, but anyone who accuses Alminova without looking at CWT even more sceptically is biased by the fact that they think that white Americans wouldn't possibly dope.

TRUTH look at CWTs progression and then Alminova's.

Some Coked Up Brit wrote:

likliness

If you weren't so coked up you'd be able to see the order like this.

9.2% = the likely one

The other performances are quite reasonable.

-- stupid americans

She didn't fail the test for Sudafed she failed for pseudoephedrine

As the ban is only 3 months then it is likely she would use this

How many athletes are you going to believe with the old cold excuse?

stupid american wrote:

If you weren't so coked up you'd be able to see the order like this.

9.2% = the likely one

The other performances are quite reasonable.

-- stupid americans

(1) Firstly you need to prove that the men's world records are equally strong relative to each other. You have not done this.

(2) Secondly you need to prove that women's performances, relative to men's performances, do not vary depending on distance. You have not done this.

(3) I don't expect you to be able to understand the above or to try and make your case.

(4) Given that you think Qu's world record in the 1,500m is reasonable, you are clearly completely out of your mind. I'm wasting my time having this discussion with you.

Now, I want you to pronounce pseudoephedrine really slowly. Next, pronounce Sudafed. Now, can we add two plus two? Guess what the primary active ingredient in Sudafed is?

You are a conspiracy theorist at heart, aren't you? Don't let those facts get in the way of a good belief.

trollism wrote:

I've said it before and I'll say it again.

She's only getting ripped like this because she's Russian.

She probably is doping, everyone knows that, but anyone who accuses Alminova without looking at CWT even more sceptically is biased by the fact that they think that white Americans wouldn't possibly dope.

CWT's federation doesn't help her evade testing. In fact, an independent anti-doping agency requires CWT to make herself available at a specified hour every day of the year to give samples for testing. This is not the case with Alminova.

i won't wrote:

CWT's federation doesn't help her evade testing. In fact, an independent anti-doping agency requires CWT to make herself available at a specified hour every day of the year to give samples for testing. This is not the case with Alminova.

Are you honestly saying that you believe that the USTAF is whiter than white?

We're talking probably the most doped fueled nation in one of the most dope fueled sports.

They've all got away with it in the past. Why do you think they're going to start cracking down now?

trollism wrote:

i won't wrote:

CWT's federation doesn't help her evade testing. In fact, an independent anti-doping agency requires CWT to make herself available at a specified hour every day of the year to give samples for testing. This is not the case with Alminova.

Are you honestly saying that you believe that the USTAF is whiter than white?

We're talking probably the most doped fueled nation in one of the most dope fueled sports.

They've all got away with it in the past. Why do you think they're going to start cracking down now?

I know USATF well enough to know that they are incapable of such a scheme.

It's no scheme. It's just turning a blind eye.

stupid americans wrote:

Here's another astounding fact for you to grip onto.

Alminova's 3:57.65 is 15.5% slower than the men's record of 3:26.0 by El G.

Yunxia Qu's 3:50.46 is 11.9% slower than the men's record of 3:26.0 by El G.

Radcliffe's 2:15:25 is only 9.2% slower than Geb's men's record of 2:03:59

WHO'S THE CHEATER NOW?????

HUH???? WHO'S THE CHEATER NOW?????

-- stupid americans

None of those people are American and as it has been said before, the longer the distance the shorter the time gap between male and female athletes.

stupid americans wrote:

Radcliffe's 2:15:25 is only 9.2% slower than Geb's men's record of 2:03:59

WHO'S THE CHEATER NOW?????

HUH???? WHO'S THE CHEATER NOW?????

-- stupid americans

o.O wrote:

None of those people are American and as it has been said before, the longer the distance the shorter the time gap between male and female athletes.

Florence Griffith Joyner's 10.49 is only 9.5% slower than Bolt's 9.58 record for the men.

-- stupid americans

stupid americans wrote:

stupid americans wrote:

Radcliffe's 2:15:25 is only 9.2% slower than Geb's men's record of 2:03:59

WHO'S THE CHEATER NOW?????

HUH???? WHO'S THE CHEATER NOW?????

-- stupid americans

o.O wrote:

None of those people are American and as it has been said before, the longer the distance the shorter the time gap between male and female athletes.

Florence Griffith Joyner's 10.49 is only 9.5% slower than Bolt's 9.58 record for the men.

-- stupid americans

Then you probably should have mentioned her in your first post. That aside, FloJo is REGULARLY ripped on this message board for being juiced to the gills.

What was your point again?

trollism wrote:

It's no scheme. It's just turning a blind eye.

USATF communicates with USADA but you understand that it's a totally separate organization, correct? USATF reminds the athletes that they need to submit three months worth of schedules at a time to USADA and then it's up to the athlete to give at least 24 hours notice to USADA of any changes to their schedule. The money USADA spends isn't just for appearances. Anyways, your statement doesn't hold up well in light of what has happened to LaShawn Merritt. His career is over. If there's anyone that they would have turned a blind eye to, it would have been him. If you've worked with USADA or USATF on a deeper level, please correct me.

Which would still make Paula, closer to a world record than FloJo.

And if anything, FloJo is doing what Caster Semenya and Jarmila have been doing.

ukathleticscoach wrote:

She didn't fail the test for Sudafed she failed for pseudoephedrine

I think the only reply to this is: Are you British or are you retarded?

the old tarts fell off, so he was retarted

Poker wrote:

ukathleticscoach wrote:

She didn't fail the test for Sudafed she failed for pseudoephedrine

I think the only reply to this is: Are you British or are you retarded?

Maybe, but that makes you even more stupid as well as being gullible.

Do I need to spell it out:

1) Sudafed contains pseudoephedrine amongst other ingredients

2) Other medicines contain pseudoephedrine

3) She only said she took Sudafed the test came back positive for pseudoephedrine it could have been in anything

4) If you think she accidentally took it you must have been born yesterday. How many athletes have failed drugs test because of 'cold remedies'. The first few you might believe, the next hundred - well if you believe them you must be taken for a ride on a regular basis

1) She tested positive only for Pseudophedrine and no other ingredients.

2) Fine, it could have been another brand name or Advil Cold and Sinus who gives a ****

3) See #2

4) It is not listed as a masking agent or respiratory enhancer unlike the things that you are apparently conflating it with. It's a drug that has dubious performance effects and very obvious positive effects on colds. It is also known to be banned, and easily detectable. So, I ask you why would she choose Pseudophedrine of all PED solutions(EPO, blood doping), knowing she would get caught and that it many not help her?

'She tested positive only for Pseudophedrine and no other ingredients.'

That's what I said which started this argument, 2 other poeple said she was positive for Sudafed

'why would she choose Pseudophedrine of all PED solutions(EPO, blood doping), knowing she would get caught and that it many not help her?'

Because the ban is only 3 months

Now a question for you. Why would any professional athlete take any medicine without checking it first?