sayin wrote:
I'm failing to see the relevance of a race that is almost twice the distance of xc, on the roads, and four months before championship season.
A 3:52/14:27 guy showing that kind of range shows that he has some great 8k XC potential. Not saying he's gonna win the region or anything...
I'm pretty sure I heard that Knott was planning on going to Geneseo originally, but didn't get in. Taking that into consideration plus the current Cortland situation, I don't really blame him for transferring.
good pick up for SUNY G, n what's the current Cortland situation, seems they lost a good group of seniors , just like every other school goes through and they will need some guys to step up, i still don't think the SUNYAC conference is strong enough to put a team in front of Cortland in the upcoming year. Fredonia lost their coach and lost their XC AA Novaro, Plattsburg has Heymann like they've had for the past 3 years, Oneonta has a good 800 guy, does nothing in XC and the pretty much leaves just Geneseo who have a good shot at winning nationals.
Oneonta, Plattsburgh and Fredonia will all beat Cortland in the upcoming season. Besides Curry up front for Cortland, they really don't have much to speak of. Guarino's will be at the top of the region.
that is quite an ignorant statement. cortland is not going to do much next year hate to tell you. the lost alot of runners (obrien, greenlaw, dubois). Fredonia still has Guarino nat champ 1500m and mile. Plattsburgh is always tough with heymann leading them. brockport is looking ok and oneonta as well (some unknowns that might surprise some people. I do not think the SUNYAC is weak this coming year. i think you are ignorant. i do not believe cortland has anybody to step up especially with their coach who clearly can not coach distance.
i wasnt sure if Curry was back or not. wouldnt surprise me if he wasnt.
Just looking at the boilermaker results for fun, here's how some of the current/past AR runners did this year (or the ones I could pick out in the top 100 at least):
19 Fred Joslyn (Cortland Alum) 26 47:16 5:05
22 Tim Chichester (Geneseo Alum) 22 47:43 5:08
30 Ryan P. O'Connor (Geneseo) 21 48:34 5:13
31 Jerry Greenlaw (Cortland Alum) 22 48:58 5:16
46 Jon French (SLU Alum) 26 50:20 5:24
59 John G. Davis (Ithaca) 21 51:24 5:31
60 Daniel Craighead (Ithaca) 20 51:24 5:31
66 Nicholas Scalfone (Oneonta Alum) 25 51:36 5:33
73 Ben Jackson (Plattsburgh Alum) 22 52:25 5:38
75 James A. Tillapaugh (Geneseo Alum) 25 52:32 5:39
Good to see some AR guys still placing well.
wololo wrote:
that is quite an ignorant statement. cortland is not going to do much next year hate to tell you. the lost alot of runners (obrien, greenlaw, dubois). Fredonia still has Guarino nat champ 1500m and mile. Plattsburgh is always tough with heymann leading them. brockport is looking ok and oneonta as well (some unknowns that might surprise some people. I do not think the SUNYAC is weak this coming year. i think you are ignorant. i do not believe cortland has anybody to step up especially with their coach who clearly can not coach distance.
You're actually very wrong. The SUNYAC sucks this year.
your evidence for disproving his claim? it might weaker than last year but it still is stronger than years past.
thewildcats wrote:
your evidence for disproving his claim? it might weaker than last year but it still is stronger than years past.
Must've sucked real hard in the past.
The reasoning is that every team except Geneseo got significantly weaker in the offseason. Cortland lost a lot of seniors and now Knott, Oneonta lost Pampena (their solid #1), Fredonia lost J. Guarino and Novaro, Plattsburgh lost Sico and Yernye.
I won't say the SUNYAC sucks now, but it's much, much weaker than last year.
Geneseo lost Chichester, Henchen and J. Berube, but they're reloading well with Novaro and Streb (was hurt last season).
Actually Fredonia only lost Novaro. Shows right there that anybody who posts on here is stupid and know nothing about what is actually going on.
you are an idiot.
thewildcats wrote:
Actually Fredonia only lost Novaro. Shows right there that anybody who posts on here is stupid and know nothing about what is actually going on.
How about Williams there, big daddy.
Elk Blood Drinker wrote:
Just looking at the boilermaker results for fun, here's how some of the current/past AR runners did this year (or the ones I could pick out in the top 100 at least):
19 Fred Joslyn (Cortland Alum) 26 47:16 5:05
22 Tim Chichester (Geneseo Alum) 22 47:43 5:08
30 Ryan P. O'Connor (Geneseo) 21 48:34 5:13
31 Jerry Greenlaw (Cortland Alum) 22 48:58 5:16
46 Jon French (SLU Alum) 26 50:20 5:24
59 John G. Davis (Ithaca) 21 51:24 5:31
60 Daniel Craighead (Ithaca) 20 51:24 5:31
66 Nicholas Scalfone (Oneonta Alum) 25 51:36 5:33
73 Ben Jackson (Plattsburgh Alum) 22 52:25 5:38
75 James A. Tillapaugh (Geneseo Alum) 25 52:32 5:39
Good to see some AR guys still placing well.
40 Alex Benway (Clarkson JR) 00:49:53 5:22
gotta give some love to the best runner Clarkson has produced in a long time.
44 Matthew J. Haringa (RIT Alum) 50:10
47 Chad Byler (RIT Alum) 50:29
56 Samuel T. Narby (Oneonta)51:19
78 Greg Selke (Brockport) 52:48
82 Matthew J. Avery (Brockport) 52:55
100 Rob Castor (Nazareth Alum) 53:41
thewildcats wrote:
Actually Fredonia only lost Novaro. Shows right there that anybody who posts on here is stupid and know nothing about what is actually going on.
I thought J. Guarino was kicked off? And I forgot about Williams. My point still stands, every SUNYAC team except Geneseo got weaker in the off season.
I am actually from fredonia and i just want to set the record straight. J.Guarino is most definately back. Novaro is gone along with Williams. I love the enthusiasm on this thread. Can't wait for regionals this year. I wish all the teams good luck this year.
Sincerely,
Nicholas Guarino
If the consensus is that SUNYAC (overall) may be weaker this year, which "lower" SUNY or non-SUNYAC schools (besides the obvious) do you guys see as likely to impress? Which teams do you think will take a significant step up in their competitiveness?
I'm going to go out on a limb and look for Oswego (M&W). I believe they've had a coaching change, and don't know how much their recruiting might have been affected, but they just seem like a program that could take off. Among the non-SUNY men, I think Vassar, which returns its top six and seems to be doing some decent recruiting, could have a shot at a top-ten spot. (The Brewers graduated several of their top women, so I don't know whether they can improve from last year.)
Also, when/where will the "official" AR preview be posted?