I run a 17:50 5K. Is there a division 1 or 2 school I can run at?

you could not win Michigan high school girls XC state title with a time like 17:50 how the heck do u think u can run for a D1 school.

Juco Johnny wrote:

If you're that slow, use your senior year and two years at a competitive JUCO to get faster.

You probably won't get much if any scholarship money at a JUCO either, but they'll let you run and coach you, too, instead of ignoring you or cutting you.

You'll end up saving money and hopefully be able to get to a decent school by the time you're heading into your junior year of college.

This is what I did. I went from 18:09 in my grade 11 year to 15:20 before I went to university. It helped a lot.

My personal advice would be to put running second and academics first. Pick the school you want to go to for academics, then worry about running. Also, I was a chem major and went to grad school and my advice on that would be to choose a smaller school. Most small schools are academics-oriented and they are geared for science majors to enter grad school. There are EXCELLENT small D3 schools in the midwest where you could easily run as well. I think overall, both for school and sports, that would be the best school profile for someone like you (and me back when I went to college).

But before taking advice on here seriously, find the school you like the most, whether it be D1, D2, or D3. Good luck!

My first ever race was in my freshman year of college: 17:44 for 5km on the road. I ran 2:23 for the marathon by my Senior year, and later qualified for the Olympic Trials.

If I can do this, you can too.

Jason

yes. Ask around. Some coaches would be plenty willing to take a 1750 guy. You won't be going to the fastest or most academically challenging school around though. There's nothing wrong with running D3 or NAIA either.

I ran 17:50 as a pr in high school, kept my head down and worked hard and became a DII national qualifier several times. It took me over two years to get the form and cardo I needed in college, and then I broke away.

Don't be too concerned with what division you run. There are people that will challenge you at every level

I know someone who ran 17:40 the fall of his senior year in the 5k and that spring he ran 9:19 in the 3200, 4:22 in the 1600, and 1:58 in the 800. Don't count yourself out!

thumber wrote:

you could not win Michigan high school girls XC state title with a time like 17:50 how the heck do u think u can run for a D1 school.

there are people running 31mins 8k in D1

Gags let me walk on as a transfer to Georgetown. I was at the back of the pack doing 10-15 mile runs at 6:00 pace (I think--it's been ages since). I was a 16:20 guy in high school if that helps. Bring your time down and ask. Nothing to lose. You may not receive any attention development-wised from a D1 coach but being around top level athletes will inspire you. I walked onto BU as well under Bruce Lehane. At first I received a lot of crap from the guys on the team. But then they would see me doing extra sessions of 15x200 at 29 in the rain and that changed that. Just work hard.

Lurking Walkoner wrote:

Gags let me walk on as a transfer to Georgetown. I was at the back of the pack doing 10-15 mile runs at 6:00 pace (I think--it's been ages since). I was a 16:20 guy in high school if that helps. Bring your time down and ask. Nothing to lose. You may not receive any attention development-wised from a D1 coach but being around top level athletes will inspire you. I walked onto BU as well under Bruce Lehane. At first I received a lot of crap from the guys on the team. But then they would see me doing extra sessions of 15x200 at 29 in the rain and that changed that. Just work hard.

oh please, that is the most untouching load of crap I've ever read

Everyone on LetsRun always seems to think that D1 = borderline nationals qualifiers.

There are a lot of D1 schools. Very few of them have a shot at going to nationals. Many of them take runners with less than stellar high school times. If you can run 17:00, there are many D1 schools that will give you a spot.

Speaking from experience, there are plenty of D1 and D2 schools that will take you in happily, depending on how you have been training in high school. Especially at the D2 level. Being a D2 runner, I have experienced that mostly all the teams except those at the very top of the chain (Adams, Metro, Mines, Grand Valley) will allow walk ons the chance to train for the summer and try and come in and make the team.

Myself, I was worse than you in high school, with PRs of 800 - 208, 1600 - 5:01, 5k - 18:33. The coach of the team at the school I now run for saw that I was enthusiastic about running and that my training in high school was pretty lackluster so he gave me a shot to walk in. The program is a mid-level D2 program so while it wasn't a championship caliber team, it was a regionally competitive one.

My freshman year of cross was way rough. The mileage I was trying to do took it's toll on me, and my PR was 32:01 before getting cut. However, I used this as a rally point and continued to train, focusing on track and what I thought was my strong suit, middle-distance running (my 2:08 was my best HS time comparatively to the other distances, and I had run a 54.1 400).

I trained with some friends and worked my ass off on the track and in the weight room and was able to snag a spot on the track roster. Started off my indoor season with a 2:07 800 and dropped that time every meet in succession until I ran a 1:58.5 my last meet in outdoor and qualified for our conference meet.

From there, my career has been sealed. I've never been much of a threat in cross (PR of 27:18, consistently running in the high 27's, low 28's), but my training has paid off on the track where I've significantly lowered all of my PRs and just narrowly missed provisionally qualifying for nationals in the 800. My PRs are now 800 - 1:54.1, 1500 - 4:07, Mile: 4:24.6, 5k - 16:28, and like previously mentioned, I am still amazed at some of the workouts times I've run compared to what I ran in high school.

So pick a school, talk to the coach and tell him you really want to give it a shot, and as long as it's not a top level program, you should be at least given a chance to train and walk on. From there, just keep working hard and it will pay off eventually.

I had HS pr's of 5:08/10:58/18:45. Walked on to a mid level D2 school. Ran 28:04 this past season as a freshman (also just ran 16:37 in my second track 5k). I know these aren't great times, but they did put me in the middle of the pack for a lot of races.

If you have the passion and determination, you can make it happen.

I haven't read all the posts but if it hasn't been mentioned there are many D1 programs that allow everyone to run. You will probably not travel unless you improve a lot. However you will be able to train and probably compete at local meets or meets that the coach can take everyone. I would make some calls to the D1 coaches at the schools you are looking at and ask them if they have a cut or not. They will be able to say whether on not you will be able to run with the team or not. Good luck bro.

A kid on our D1 team joined with a 10:30 2 mile PR. Ended up running 14:5X his senior year.

Anyone can walk on. Just walk real fast when you get on the track.

And if you pick the wrong school, you'll be driving the bus. Or picking up the wet towels or worse.

Find a school based on your academic interests and go out for track. Run with lots of kids who like to run. And eventually you'll run faster.

Let me say that if you want to run at Oregon, you'll see some great meets from the stands.

If running is your passion at college, then find a place you can fully participate.

/quote/ In any event, for teaching (esp. in the sciences) at the university level, your *graduate school* program is key. It may be a bit easier to get into a top grad school if you attend a major research university as an undergrad, but a) some of those are DIII (see UAA), and b) you'll need to nail your UGGPA, no matter what school you attend, and that high GPA *may* be easier to get at a smaller school. /end quote/

I'm a chemistry professor at a PhD granting institution and I somewhat disagree with this statement. Generally our best graduate school applicants come from smaller schools where the undergrads get actual research experience. I'm not qualified to comment on the D1 vs D2 vs D3 for running, but small liberal arts school w/ good science programs are often the best for undergrad training.

Keene State has been mentioned a few times on this thread. I've lived in Keene for two years and it is a great place to be. Lots of cool cafes and restaurants and a strong running scene. The college distance program is excellent and they have a large group of runners. They don't seem to cut anyone, as the group ranges from All Americans down to 30-minute 8K guys.

Wofford.

Good academics. Bad team. Division 1. Your search is over.