So it looks like we've got some world class triathletes who could a) jump in local 10Ks and run really well, probably win (sub 31) and; b) run with world class runners and get smoked (sub 31). I'd bet the same thing would happen if they got into local bike races (do well, maybe dominate) vs. professional bike races (get smoked). Same with swimming ...
Maybe that's why they're world class triathletes ... (or maybe not) ...
Very clear post Kent....
So let me guess, you expect them to beat all the single sport athletes at their own respective sports in order to gain credibility from armchair quarterbacks like yourself?
I'm sure they're losing sleep over it while they do what they love and sleep with hot chicks.
What underachievers.
Huh? wrote:
Whitfield - sub 31min from 2003
30:59 Simon Whitfield 27-Apr Times Colonist, Victoria
From the Took about 15sec to find with google. I'm sure a thorough search would turn up many more elite triathletes with sub 31min to low 30min 10K times or similar running performances in other distance events - infact many have already been presented here.
Link:
http://www.bcathletics.org/results/2003/roadrankbc_m10k.htm
Okay, I stand corrected about Whitfield. Although I'm not so sure about your 'many more elite triathletes with sub 31min performances' statement. So far we have 4 confirmed sub 31 performances and Whitfield's is by the slimmest of margins! (still counts of course). Still seems more like the exception rather than the general rule to me...
regardless, getting back to the point of this thread...somehow these guys are running very fast and it is hard to imagine they can put in the amount of mileage that many competitive runners put in...
it seems to me that there are two possible explanations for this:
1) Very significant transfer of aerobic ability from biking/swimming to running
2) Lots of quality miles (e.g. tempos/track work?) which could be due to the base aerobic capacity provided by #1
anyway, just my thoughts.
no clue wrote:
regardless, getting back to the point of this thread...somehow these guys are running very fast and it is hard to imagine they can put in the amount of mileage that many competitive runners put in...
it seems to me that there are two possible explanations for this:
1) Very significant transfer of aerobic ability from biking/swimming to running
2) Lots of quality miles (e.g. tempos/track work?) which could be due to the base aerobic capacity provided by #1
anyway, just my thoughts.
What about the fact that those from running backgrounds already have a significant base?
many elite triathletes train 25+ hours a week. that's mainly all aerobic work that transfers to their running.
also alot of them run at least 60mpw. their aerobic conditioning is similar to that of an elite runner. their technique/efficency, run specific muscular endurance and their body type (a lot are bigger then average runner) prevent them from running world class times.
i swear, and most of you missed it, that simon whitfield has posted on this thread.
knower of things wrote:
i swear, and most of you missed it, that simon whitfield has posted on this thread.
Which post/poster?
What's Simon up to, anyway? I don't follow that sport, but like to hear how the better Canucks are making out, and will watch one if it's on OLN.
This national champ triathlete is pretty fast. I believe he has a CONFIRMED 27:50.55 10,000: http://www.bicyclingdirect.com/news_next.cfm?id=64
yup im gonna have to agree with you. I like that explanation. Although yrs of background like basic instinct says is a huge factor...
Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but:
Forename(s) Surname Date of Birth Race Number Time Race Position
TIM DON 00 / 00 / **** 178 00:29:31 19
This is Tim Don (ITU pro from Britain) at the Great Manchester Run (certified course) earlier this year.
I guess triathletes CAN run <30min.
There are some tri-guys capable of low 30 or faster. I think Simon Lessing was capable of sub-29. Mark Allen went sub-30 and duathlete Kenny Souza ran like a 30:06. Not all of them ran a mere 30 or 40 miles per week. I think I read that Allen, Scott, and Tinley would approach 75-80 per week. Supposedly, Kenny Souza did 60, but that was on top of his 500 miles of hard cycling per week.
donm wrote:
Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but:
In other words, not sorry at all
Come on, where are all the guys who said triathletes can't run under 31min, let alone 30min?
Greatest duathlete in the history of the sport, Benny Vansteelant, who sadly passed away earlier this year:
"Benny Vansteelant is only 25 years old, he has four Duathlon World titles, he hasn't lost this century, and he is getting faster. On Sunday Vansteelant competed in one of Belgium's largest running races. The race distance was 10 miles (16,095 meters) and it offered Vansteelant a chance to qualify for the Half Marathon World Championships.
Vansteelant reports that he went through 5k in 14:39, 10k in 29:37, and he finished in a time of 48:05. That equates to a 4:48 per mile pace. Vansteelant qualified for the Belgium World Championship team but passed the slot because it is the same day as Powerman Geel in Belgium."
Taken from
2:18:46 (22) Lino Barruncho 30 Sep 2007 Berlin GER
Lino Barruncho, Portugal's duathlon champion, at this year's Berlin marathon. Pretty safe bet to go under 30min.
Lino Barruncho once did 1h04m at the lisbon half marathon
Good info, thanks!
donm wrote:
Sorry to resurrect an old thread, but:
Forename(s) Surname Date of Birth Race Number Time Race Position
TIM DON 00 / 00 / **** 178 00:29:31 19
This is Tim Don (ITU pro from Britain) at the Great Manchester Run (certified course) earlier this year.
I guess triathletes CAN run <30min.
He was banned in October 2006 from triathlons for 3 months for missing three out-of-competition drug tests. If (like Christine Ohuruogu) he was an 'athlete' he would have served a 12 month ban and therefore would not have been able to take part in that Great Manchester Run (May 07).
He never tested positive and was allowed to compete, so his time stands.