the thing on green issues that drives me nuts with the right wingers is the 'we can't fix everything on day one so let's just not do anything.'
the only way to move the needle on this is to get started, to get the ball rolling and let it snowball.
anyway, even most right wingers are on board with green issues - it's just the moran trump base that isn't. Expect a lot of republicans campaigning on green issues going forward. Just not in the primary.
Save America wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:The US has BY FAR the highest CO2 emissions TOTAL in the last 100 years. And once it is added to the atmosphere, it stays there for hundreds of years. Therefore, the US is BY FAR the nation most responsible for the climate crisis.
The CCP thanks you for your service.
At least you tacitly acknowledge that I am right.
The very idea that we should pit one nation against the other and declare that China is worse or the US is worse doesn't help much. But if you are going to play that game, you have to admit that the US has a larger debt to pay. So we should just pay it.
The great part is that green technology is the future and the US will benefit tremendously as we pay that debt.
agip wrote:
the thing on green issues that drives me nuts with the right wingers is the 'we can't fix everything on day one so let's just not do anything.'
the only way to move the needle on this is to get started, to get the ball rolling and let it snowball.
anyway, even most right wingers are on board with green issues - it's just the moran trump base that isn't. Expect a lot of republicans campaigning on green issues going forward. Just not in the primary.
As Flagpole would say, "CORRECT!"
agip wrote:
anyway, even most right wingers are on board with green issues - it's just the moran trump base that isn't. Expect a lot of republicans campaigning on green issues going forward. Just not in the primary.
It's kind of hard to sustain the "job killing climate bill" rhetoric when this sort of thing keeps happening:
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/first-solar-invest-680m-expanding-130100630.htmlReal Obvi wrote:
Hambu wrote:
This has to be the stupidest post ever.
We can stop global warming if we can only get Brunei and Montenegro to get their emissions down. 😂😂😂😂😂😂🤡
This ^ has to be the stupidest post ever.
Note that I never claimed that "we can stop global warming if we can only get Brunei and Montenegro to get their emissions down. "
Also note that it became standard practice to refer to ACTUAL CLAIMS MADE BY OTHERS when trying to refute them rather than made up sh!t going on in your own head. This transition to referring to actual claims made happened about 5,000 years ago. You might want to try to keep up with the times.
Now, according to your "argument" you would feel a great deal better about emissions coming from what is now China if it were to break up into ten different countries, each with one tenth of China's current emissions. LMAO
😂😂😂😂😂
Did you really conclude your whiny rant about refuting ACTUAL CLAIMS MADE BY OTHERS by making up a claim that nobody actually made?????
Congrats. You now have the two stupidest posts on here. 😂😂😂😂🤡🤡🤡
Fat hurts wrote:
jonesy22 wrote:
Keep drinking the kool-aid.
You mean science? Yes, I'll stick with science instead the internet kooks.
You place your trust in political science, chicken little.
Fat hurts wrote:
Keystone XL pipeline is now truly, truly dead. The developer has finally given up and will not keep fighting or try to wait for a Republican president.
We won. It was a decade-long battle, but we finally beat big oil.
Now we need to kill the rest of these filthy pipeline projects, stop global warming, and hand our grandchildren a prosperous future.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/09/energy/keystone-pipeline-canceled/index.html
There you go again with your fake POLITICAL science. Here are the facts:
Pipelines are the safest, most efficient, and environmentally friendly way to transport energy resources across long distances. Pipelines are environmentally safer than rail & trucks.
https://www.fraserinstitute.org/article/pipelines-are-safest-way-transport-oil-and-gashttps://www.canadaaction.ca/shipping_oil_pipelines_vs_trains_which_is_saferhttps://journaltimes.com/opinion/editorial/journal-times-editorial-pipelines-are-safest-for-the-environment/article_f44cf4b3-3edb-53ec-b804-49b93f6dbbd6.htmlEven the Dems are beginning to get sick & tired of her act.
https://www.miamiherald.com/news/politics-government/article252022908.html
In other news, the Zoom wanker is welcomed back on CNN:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E3jLbCxXIAEON4V?format=jpg&name=small
Hardloper wrote:
A couple months old:
https://i2.wp.com/www.nationalreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/04/March-2021-Unemployment-Rates-for-States-Seasonally-Adjusted.png?w=575&ssl=1
Yes, as has been observed on this thread, there are some states to which people travel voluntarily, for vacations or just a general good time. Those states have large entertainment/hospitality sectors in their workforce, and will tend to show greater unemployment in a time of reduced travel/smaller gatherings.
Under normal conditions, a lot of people actually *want* to visit Hawaii and New York and California and Nevada, for work and just for fun. Nebraska and Iowa and South Dakota and Alabama? Not so much.
kibitzer wrote:
Yes, as has been observed on this thread, there are some states to which people travel voluntarily, for vacations or just a general good time. Those states have large entertainment/hospitality sectors in their workforce, and will tend to show greater unemployment in a time of reduced travel/smaller gatherings.
It doesn't matter how you rationalize it. Agip's claim is flatly untrue that "blue states" are "leading the economic recovery." They're lagging behind. You also can't pretend that school closings, covid restrictions, and extra unemployment benefits (which many states removed) aren't also major factors preventing people from going back to work.
Not content with cleaning up Trumps covid mess and bringing America back.
Biden set to solve the global issue.
Hardloper wrote:
kibitzer wrote:
Yes, as has been observed on this thread, there are some states to which people travel voluntarily, for vacations or just a general good time. Those states have large entertainment/hospitality sectors in their workforce, and will tend to show greater unemployment in a time of reduced travel/smaller gatherings.
It doesn't matter how you rationalize it. Agip's claim is flatly untrue that "blue states" are "leading the economic recovery." They're lagging behind. You also can't pretend that school closings, covid restrictions, and extra unemployment benefits (which many states removed) aren't also major factors preventing people from going back to work.
just statistically, trump counties are so poor that they can't lead anything. they are too small a part of the total economic pie. Just 30% of national GDP.
To get the 6-7% growth the nation is having, ther rich blue counties must be ripping and roaring. Which they are.
Gina.... wrote:
Not content with cleaning up Trumps covid mess and bringing America back.
https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/biden-announce-donation-500-million-pfizer-doses-urge-others-join-2021-06-10/Biden set to solve the global issue.
How can Biden/Kamala solve the global issue when they have been unmitigated failures at solving the much less complex border crisis? Biden is paying Kamala back for what she said at the debate and Kamala refuses to do anything about the problem. Derelictions of duties in spades.
Santiago Stephen wrote:
Gina.... wrote:
Not content with cleaning up Trumps covid mess and bringing America back.
https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/biden-announce-donation-500-million-pfizer-doses-urge-others-join-2021-06-10/Biden set to solve the global issue.
How can Biden/Kamala solve the global issue when they have been unmitigated failures at solving the much less complex border crisis? Biden is paying Kamala back for what she said at the debate and Kamala refuses to do anything about the problem. Derelictions of duties in spades.
the border is not in crisis. it has been like this forever. no president could fix it and no president has fixed it. Immigrants are too smart and too hard working to be stopped.
Americans know this. And Americans aren't very anti-immigrant in the first place.
you can fire up the trumpist masses with this 'border crisis' garbage but it will only serve to fire up your own kind. Most are going on with their lives and not worrying about a miniscule percentage of the nation sneaking so they can...work.
agip wrote:
Santiago Stephen wrote:
How can Biden/Kamala solve the global issue when they have been unmitigated failures at solving the much less complex border crisis? Biden is paying Kamala back for what she said at the debate and Kamala refuses to do anything about the problem. Derelictions of duties in spades.
the border is not in crisis. it has been like this forever. no president could fix it and no president has fixed it. Immigrants are too smart and too hard working to be stopped.
Americans know this. And Americans aren't very anti-immigrant in the first place.
you can fire up the trumpist masses with this 'border crisis' garbage but it will only serve to fire up your own kind. Most are going on with their lives and not worrying about a miniscule percentage of the nation sneaking so they can...work.
Secure the border. As easy as that. Problem solved. Israel did it. We can do it too but Libs don't want a secure border. They want more people to vote for Dems. The number 1 duty of a president is the security of the country. Dems don't want that.
agip wrote:
Santiago Stephen wrote:
How can Biden/Kamala solve the global issue when they have been unmitigated failures at solving the much less complex border crisis? Biden is paying Kamala back for what she said at the debate and Kamala refuses to do anything about the problem. Derelictions of duties in spades.
the border is not in crisis. it has been like this forever. no president could fix it and no president has fixed it. Immigrants are too smart and too hard working to be stopped.
Americans know this. And Americans aren't very anti-immigrant in the first place.
you can fire up the trumpist masses with this 'border crisis' garbage but it will only serve to fire up your own kind. Most are going on with their lives and not worrying about a miniscule percentage of the nation sneaking so they can...work.
The border is not in crisis??? Are you really suggesting that??? We have maybe 20 million illegals here and you say no border crisis?
Ghost of Disco Gary wrote:
Fat hurts wrote:
Keystone XL pipeline is now truly, truly dead. The developer has finally given up and will not keep fighting or try to wait for a Republican president.
We won. It was a decade-long battle, but we finally beat big oil.
Now we need to kill the rest of these filthy pipeline projects, stop global warming, and hand our grandchildren a prosperous future.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/06/09/energy/keystone-pipeline-canceled/index.htmlThere you go again with your fake POLITICAL science. Here are the facts:
Pipelines are the safest, most efficient, and environmentally friendly way to transport energy resources across long distances. Pipelines are environmentally safer than rail & trucks.
Do you even know what political science is?
Your facts are wrong. Here are the facts:
The safest, most efficient, and environmentally friendly way to transport energy is NOT via a pipeline.
The safest, most efficient, and environmentally friendly way to transport energy is via a wire.
Solar panels and windmills don't need rail or trucks or supertankers or leaky pipes. They just need a transmission line.
Fat hurts wrote:
Ghost of Disco Gary wrote:
There you go again with your fake POLITICAL science. Here are the facts:
Pipelines are the safest, most efficient, and environmentally friendly way to transport energy resources across long distances. Pipelines are environmentally safer than rail & trucks.
Do you even know what political science is?
Your facts are wrong. Here are the facts:
The safest, most efficient, and environmentally friendly way to transport energy is NOT via a pipeline.
The safest, most efficient, and environmentally friendly way to transport energy is via a wire.
Solar panels and windmills don't need rail or trucks or supertankers or leaky pipes. They just need a transmission line.
The windmills in Texas were not very efficient when the cold weather came.
Santiago Stephen wrote:
agip wrote:
the border is not in crisis. it has been like this forever. no president could fix it and no president has fixed it. Immigrants are too smart and too hard working to be stopped.
Americans know this. And Americans aren't very anti-immigrant in the first place.
you can fire up the trumpist masses with this 'border crisis' garbage but it will only serve to fire up your own kind. Most are going on with their lives and not worrying about a miniscule percentage of the nation sneaking so they can...work.
The border is not in crisis??? Are you really suggesting that??? We have maybe 20 million illegals here and you say no border crisis?
The border is definitely not in crisis. Only a handful of those 20 million are at the border. Most are working, paying taxes, and contributing to society.
