2008 MIAC TRACK

Why is it "unfortunate" that others had more drive, but perhaps less talent?

HECK YA wrote:

Kath was easily one of the top 5 most talented runners in MIAC History...He didn't realize until his senior year that he actually had some real talent in him and that he could have been even better than he was...Not to take away from other MIAC greats but he could have been the best in the MIAC and gone down in history...Unfortunately there are others with less talent and are just more into it they want more and drive for more. Good luck to all the guys at Nationals this week, it will be nice to see a couple of guys from the MIAC in the meet, I really hope fermoyle gets in.

Easily top five is very aggressive. He was good but look back in the past 25 years and you realize that he was not in the top five. Also he figured that he could be good after outdoors his sophomore year.

Rondo remember rumors are always true.

I was not there. In fairness to Pete and Kath, I am taking that road.

On the flipside,

Ari - Y O U S T I L L S U C K!

Eat Crap,

Rondo

You're right. The 1500 is still Erichsen's race and I am his secret lover. He raced the 1500 a lot this year and if he qualified to get into Nationals he would run the 1500 instead of the steeple and the 5k.

And Boumeester ran a lot of 5K's this year. You're an idiot.

the shallow end wrote:

It looks like the innocent bystander shows how shallow he is, or he is Erichsen's secret lover. I can't figure the fairness in the comment that Erichsen "toyed" with Boumeester but yet Boumeester "has Erichsen by a couple of seconds" in the 1500M. A "couple of seconds" in 1500M is pretty significant. Boumeester had to race against a very strong field, not just Erichsen and as it played out, Erichsen proved not to be a factor that Boumeester needed to worry about.

hey shallow end, if you'd actually read his post, he said that erichsen toyed with boumeester in the conference 5k race. also, if you were at the race, when erichsen slowed the pace way down to let his teammate back into the race, it kind of looked like he was, in fact, toying with boumeester. even so, i honestly thought matt had a chance until erichsen blew him away in the last lap.

how does posting what you deem an unfair or unjustifed comment make someone shallow? i think you're the idiot.

and rondo, if you want to fight me, you know where to find me.

Fermoyle in?.... thought the magic number was 16?

Entries are awarded on a floating basis. This means that There is a total number of athletes allowed in the meet per gender, which can be distributed (with justification) how ever the commitee wants. They do this by looking at who is already in the meet (on a relay already, etc.). They claim not, but I also beleive they look at proximity to the site and if coaches are alreasy there as well since the NCAA picks up a bunch of the tab.

a realist wrote:

i agree that sepe and swanson wouldn't beat fermoyle, but i do think they can both run faster than fermoyle ran by himself at conference. just my thoughts. maybe conditions wont be good and it wont matter anyways.

just wanted to point out that you were wrong, although I'll eat a little crow since Swenson did run a little faster at the last chance dance, albeit the crow is very small, just the difference in his time. Nothing against the guy, I mean sub 31 is an impressive 10k in my book, just not sure why you thought he could be faster than Fermoyle.

On to my next rant, what was the point of Erichsen running a 1500 since he clearly had no intentions of racing it at Nationals? Was he afraid that he wasn't tired enough after racing 18k the weekend before? Uncharacteristic for a typically conservative Bill Miles.

Just wanted to point out that you were wrong, Bill Miles is not the coach at SJU, Tim Miles, his older brother, holds that position. Bill is the coach of wayzata high school.

I mean Swanson did run a faster 10k, and Sepe beat Fermoyle in a 5k, but not a 10k. So the prediction was off, but still slightly correct.

TEAM WAYZATA! wrote:

Just wanted to point out that you were wrong, Bill Miles is not the coach at SJU, Tim Miles, his older brother, holds that position. Bill is the coach of wayzata high school.

And you are also wrong sir. Tim Miles is the younger brother.

Not the point, point is Swammy ran great, but left it all out on the line at Conference and that was the best he could do, as evidenced again last week. Still not sure why Erichsen would run a 1500 when clearly his training has been more steeple/5k based... if you want to try and PR in an event, do that after business is finished at Nationals.... dum.

Actually, I'm fairly certain that Bill, despite perhaps looking a little older, is in fact the younger of the two. I could be wrong though, but I think not.

slippy, i dont follow your logic. swanson ran his best race possible at conference, yet pr'ed a few days later? and he pr'ed in a race with no competition. furthermore, any reasonable runner would argue that running a 10k less than a week later is a bad idea, and is hard to run at your top level. in that regard, swanson's race was incredibly impressive. too bad he couldn't have gotten in more of a race.

Indeed, dear ol' Samson said that he felt really great, and wished that he would've had some faster people to race. Who know's what might've happened...

Bill is the elder. Coached Tim back in the day at Cretin.

Whoops, I thought it was Tim who coached Bill. I stand corrected.

He did have "more of a race" the previous weekend on a perfect evening at Hamline... not only did he have Erichsen and Sepe to run with the entire time, he had Fermoyle up front running incredibly even splits (the best way to run as fast as possible). My logic is that if Swampson was capable of a 30:30 type of performance he would have dropped it at conference, which is exactly to your point that it's difficult to run 2 10k's in that short of a time and he had already committed to the conference 10k. Also, if you'll note, I did admit to eating the equivalent amount of crow to the amount of time dropped.

ok - I'm done talking about people not racing anymore this year, anyone have an answer for why the h Erichsen ran an all out 1500 with no intention of racing it at Nats?