Both things can be true. Her life's goal was to keep violent criminals in our communities safe from arrest or deportation and to mutilate small children through her trans advocacy. So I personally am not sad to see her gone. But its also true that her death was warranted based on her efforts to kill a law enforcement officer who was interfering with her efforts to obstruct the arrest of a violent illegal.
Is this REALLY what you have to tell yourself in order to justify enjoying the violent ending of a person's life and the orphaning of her children?
Her "life's goal" was "keeping violent criminals" in her OWN community!? The one she's (was) raising her own children in? Isn't it just slightly possible that it just bothered her when she saw people in her community, maybe people whose kids were in her kid's classes, with no criminal records, or maybe even actual citizens (but brown or black) being harassed and detained for the non-criminal act of being undocumented or brown or black? Maybe she thought in terms of humanity instead of citizenship (and believed the enforcers of criminal law should be the ones going after the criminals). Is ICE actually the best way to find criminals? And maybe she thought trans people were human too (and their healthcare something between them or parents and Drs). Fvck off with the hysterics for just a minute. Do you ACTUALLY think there are people so deranged that they WANT violent criminals in their own communities, or to see kids "genitally mutilated" (never mind that this is something that just does not happen to kids in trans healthcare)?
You're so effed up on your insane ideology that you can't even muster "I'm sad that she was shot 3 times in the head and her kids orphaned", even if you thought it was somehow "her fault". A troubling number of people couldn't say something like that when Charlie Kirk or the healthcare guy were shot down, because, like you, they thought they had brought in on themselves through the way they lived or the things they thought and said.
You're evil and dead inside if your ideology can prevent you from feeling any basic human empathy in a situations like these. And your society is un-fvckably fvked when everyone starts putting their political ideologies ahead of basic humanity. I say this as a lifetime and very committed socialist, so I know what it means to be committed to a set of ideas and a world view. You don't have society if you revel in or celebrate, for political reasons, the violent death of anyone but the worst people in history, who've committed the worst atrocities. And only then because is means the violence has stopped and some form of justice and civility has been restored, if that turns out to be the only way to restore it.
Just stop with the insinuation that ICE is arresting innocent African Americans and brown children. Have you seen the laundry list of horrendous crimes commited by the illegals they are after? Murder, rape, child molestation just to name a few. These are the people this idiot was protecting. And she wasnt just using first amendment rights to protest it, she was actively obstructing the authorities....and all for tik toks and clicks. The bottom line is, she had no idea who ICE was after or why, and she didnt care. she was just told ICE was there and they needed to obstruct, so she did it on command. And when it didnt work, she attempted to mow down a law enforcement officer. This women, and the people she was attempting to protect, are evil. They destroy every community the step foot in and make it less safe. So pardon me if I don't give two craps about her death. I do feel for her kids, but they'll learn their mom put her insane agenda over responsible motherhood as they get older.
Both things can be true. Her life's goal was to keep violent criminals in our communities safe from arrest or deportation and to mutilate small children through her trans advocacy. So I personally am not sad to see her gone. But its also true that her death was warranted based on her efforts to kill a law enforcement officer who was interfering with her efforts to obstruct the arrest of a violent illegal.
Is this REALLY what you have to tell yourself in order to justify enjoying the violent ending of a person's life and the orphaning of her children?
Her "life's goal" was "keeping violent criminals" in her OWN community!? The one she's (was) raising her own children in? Isn't it just slightly possible that it just bothered her when she saw people in her community, maybe people whose kids were in her kid's classes, with no criminal records, or maybe even actual citizens (but brown or black) being harassed and detained for the non-criminal act of being undocumented or brown or black? Maybe she thought in terms of humanity instead of citizenship (and believed the enforcers of criminal law should be the ones going after the criminals). Is ICE actually the best way to find criminals? And maybe she thought trans people were human too (and their healthcare something between them or parents and Drs). Fvck off with the hysterics for just a minute. Do you ACTUALLY think there are people so deranged that they WANT violent criminals in their own communities, or to see kids "genitally mutilated" (never mind that this is something that just does not happen to kids in trans healthcare)?
You're so effed up on your insane ideology that you can't even muster "I'm sad that she was shot 3 times in the head and her kids orphaned", even if you thought it was somehow "her fault". A troubling number of people couldn't say something like that when Charlie Kirk or the healthcare guy were shot down, because, like you, they thought they had brought in on themselves through the way they lived or the things they thought and said.
You're evil and dead inside if your ideology can prevent you from feeling any basic human empathy in a situations like these. And your society is un-fvckably fvked when everyone starts putting their political ideologies ahead of basic humanity. I say this as a lifetime and very committed socialist, so I know what it means to be committed to a set of ideas and a world view. You don't have society if you revel in or celebrate, for political reasons, the violent death of anyone but the worst people in history, who've committed the worst atrocities. And only then because is means the violence has stopped and some form of justice and civility has been restored, if that turns out to be the only way to restore it.
You were immediately down-voted when you said humanity supersedes ideology.
when asked to stop and get out of the car, she did not, trying to flee, her wife was on the sidelines cheering, and then immediately admitted that she got her wife killed.
if you choose to play around being cutesy with law enforcement, then…
They sure did. But any reasonable person doesn't think the end result is justified. Was she an idiot? Yes. Did she get what she deserved? No.
Is this REALLY what you have to tell yourself in order to justify enjoying the violent ending of a person's life and the orphaning of her children?
Her "life's goal" was "keeping violent criminals" in her OWN community!? The one she's (was) raising her own children in? Isn't it just slightly possible that it just bothered her when she saw people in her community, maybe people whose kids were in her kid's classes, with no criminal records, or maybe even actual citizens (but brown or black) being harassed and detained for the non-criminal act of being undocumented or brown or black? Maybe she thought in terms of humanity instead of citizenship (and believed the enforcers of criminal law should be the ones going after the criminals). Is ICE actually the best way to find criminals? And maybe she thought trans people were human too (and their healthcare something between them or parents and Drs). Fvck off with the hysterics for just a minute. Do you ACTUALLY think there are people so deranged that they WANT violent criminals in their own communities, or to see kids "genitally mutilated" (never mind that this is something that just does not happen to kids in trans healthcare)?
You're so effed up on your insane ideology that you can't even muster "I'm sad that she was shot 3 times in the head and her kids orphaned", even if you thought it was somehow "her fault". A troubling number of people couldn't say something like that when Charlie Kirk or the healthcare guy were shot down, because, like you, they thought they had brought in on themselves through the way they lived or the things they thought and said.
You're evil and dead inside if your ideology can prevent you from feeling any basic human empathy in a situations like these. And your society is un-fvckably fvked when everyone starts putting their political ideologies ahead of basic humanity. I say this as a lifetime and very committed socialist, so I know what it means to be committed to a set of ideas and a world view. You don't have society if you revel in or celebrate, for political reasons, the violent death of anyone but the worst people in history, who've committed the worst atrocities. And only then because is means the violence has stopped and some form of justice and civility has been restored, if that turns out to be the only way to restore it.
Just stop with the insinuation that ICE is arresting innocent African Americans and brown children. Have you seen the laundry list of horrendous crimes commited by the illegals they are after? Murder, rape, child molestation just to name a few. These are the people this idiot was protecting. And she wasnt just using first amendment rights to protest it, she was actively obstructing the authorities....and all for tik toks and clicks. The bottom line is, she had no idea who ICE was after or why, and she didnt care. she was just told ICE was there and they needed to obstruct, so she did it on command. And when it didnt work, she attempted to mow down a law enforcement officer. This women, and the people she was attempting to protect, are evil. They destroy every community the step foot in and make it less safe. So pardon me if I don't give two craps about her death. I do feel for her kids, but they'll learn their mom put her insane agenda over responsible motherhood as they get older.
You have just bought the Trump propaganda that the problem with the US is immigrants. It's long been a country of immigrants. It has also experienced every kind of social problem and that includes American citizens. Illegal immigrants haven't invented crime in the US. The country is currently led by a convicted criminal and a rapist, who is also a US citizen. You don't have any problem with that. ICE aren't removing criminals from your midst; they are a tool for ethnic cleansing. That's your country now.
They need external ICE agents because Minnesota police have such an appalling record...
Justine Damond, asking for help, shot by DEI hire
Daunte Wright, shot when the policewoman mistook her gun for a tazer, ffs,
Leneal Frazier, innocent bystander, killed by MPD officer who ran red light. he had been doing almost 100mph in a 25mph zone.
Amir Locke, shot in a 'no knock' warrant when he was neither named in the warrant or involved in the honicide investigation. holding a gun didnt help though.
Ricky Cobb II. Suspect was attempting to flee so officers fired into a moving car, both of which are ilegal apparently according to someposts on here.
About the only person MPD etc arent guilty of killing is George Floyd who had enouguh fentanyl in him to kill a horse.
They need external ICE agents because Minnesota police have such an appalling record...
Justine Damond, asking for help, shot by DEI hire
Daunte Wright, shot when the policewoman mistook her gun for a tazer, ffs,
Leneal Frazier, innocent bystander, killed by MPD officer who ran red light. he had been doing almost 100mph in a 25mph zone.
Amir Locke, shot in a 'no knock' warrant when he was neither named in the warrant or involved in the honicide investigation. holding a gun didnt help though.
Ricky Cobb II. Suspect was attempting to flee so officers fired into a moving car, both of which are ilegal apparently according to someposts on here.
About the only person MPD etc arent guilty of killing is George Floyd who had enouguh fentanyl in him to kill a horse.
This has to be parody right?
Are we pretending that Ice needs to swoop in and use their superior police skills and advanced training to take over where local law enforcement is lacking? These dooshbags make the keystone cops look buttoned up.
Ah. “Directly in front.” He was directly in front of the driver’s side of the car as she turrned the wheel away from him and attempted to escape by driving off to the side of him.
At 2:10 of this video she is stationary with an IE at her door, her wheels turned left, and the eventual shooter in front of the left side of her car, unseen as in line of the LE at the door. For reference note this puts him in line with front most window on the house across the street. At 2:11 she starts to move forward and shooter can still barely be seen, still in front of left side of her car, still in line with window. Wheels are now straight. Shooter draws his weapon. At 2:12 she is moving forward toward that window (and thus the shooter who still has not moved toward left side of frame). Contact occurs and shooting takes place which is when the shooter gets bumped left. By 2:13 she has moved forward and finally has turned away from the window and the shooter has clearly been bumped toward left of that window.
Slow down to 0.25 speed to view. But in real time, things happened very quickly. As my post several pages back said, a very unfortunate situation which should not have come to a shooting.
A motor vehicle is not a deadly weapon unless it is driven with the intent to kill. If it were otherwise all you dumb Trumpers are driving the equivalent of an assault rifle every time you get behind the wheel. There was no intent to kill by the driver in this case. But the intent to kill was clearly there with the ICE agent who fired multiple shots into her face when his life wasn't in danger. Murder.
I see, so if I am drunk and run someone over the care I am driving is not a deadly weapon? Or if I am pointing a loaded gun at you with no intent to pull the trigger it is also not a deadly weapon?
But the whole question of intent raises a question. The "intent" as determined by who? Should/Could the shooter have called a halt to everything and asked Renee what her intent was? LOL. Or should/could he have read her mind? LOL. No the "intent" can only be what he thought it was based on her actions.
As far as which direction the car started in see the post I just bumped (#329)
I have just viewed the clip of the event which took place in Minneapolis, Minnesota. It is a horrible thing to watch. The woman screaming was, obviously, a professional agitator, and the woman driving the car was very disorderly, obstructing and resisting, who then violently, willfully, and viciously ran over the ICE Officer, who seems to have shot her in self defense. Based on the attached clip, it is hard to believe he is alive, but is now recovering in the hospital. The situation is being studied, in its entirety, but the reason these incidents are happening is because the Radical Left is threatening, assaulting, and targeting our Law Enforcement Officers and ICE Agents on a daily basis. They are just trying to do the job of MAKING AMERICA SAFE. We need to stand by and protect our Law Enforcement Officers from this Radical Left Movement of Violence and Hate!
I have just viewed the clip of the event which took place in Minneapolis, Minnesota. It is a horrible thing to watch. The woman screaming was, obviously, a professional agitator, and the woman driving the car was very disorderly, obstructing and resisting, who then violently, willfully, and viciously ran over the ICE Officer, who seems to have shot her in self defense. Based on the attached clip, it is hard to believe he is alive, but is now recovering in the hospital. The situation is being studied, in its entirety, but the reason these incidents are happening is because the Radical Left is threatening, assaulting, and targeting our Law Enforcement Officers and ICE Agents on a daily basis. They are just trying to do the job of MAKING AMERICA SAFE. We need to stand by and protect our Law Enforcement Officers from this Radical Left Movement of Violence and Hate!
We need to settle your dispute since the two of you cannot agree on terms. If he’s adamant that those circumstances meet his definition of “ran over,” you could offer to let someone “run over” you in exactly the same manner while he chooses to be “run over” in the way you define the term.
At the end of the day, they’re just dishonest indoctrinated morons. As I said, previously, had Democrats not orchestrated an invasion of the country, ICE wouldn’t even be a thing.
Or are we to believe that 100,000 ret@rds from a Third World country were able to invade and take over a Midwestern city by brains and initiative only and without any help from the inside?
To accept that premise, you have to buy into Orwell’s final command.
The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.
George Orwell, 1984
Hahahahahahahaha
Geography lessons from the Flat Earth Society wouldn’t be as ironic as this dribble
A motor vehicle is not a deadly weapon unless it is driven with the intent to kill. If it were otherwise all you dumb Trumpers are driving the equivalent of an assault rifle every time you get behind the wheel. There was no intent to kill by the driver in this case. But the intent to kill was clearly there with the ICE agent who fired multiple shots into her face when his life wasn't in danger. Murder.
I see, so if I am drunk and run someone over the care I am driving is not a deadly weapon? Or if I am pointing a loaded gun at you with no intent to pull the trigger it is also not a deadly weapon?
But the whole question of intent raises a question. The "intent" as determined by who? Should/Could the shooter have called a halt to everything and asked Renee what her intent was? LOL. Or should/could he have read her mind? LOL. No the "intent" can only be what he thought it was based on her actions.
As far as which direction the car started in see the post I just bumped (#329)
A gun is a weapon; a car is not. It only becomes so where there is a clear intent to kill. That is shown by intentionally driving over a person. This didn't happen. Nothing in Renee Good's actions showed any such intent. She even declared to the ICE agent she had no anger towards him. His life wasn't threatened. He swore at her and killed her. That is murder.
I have just viewed the clip of the event which took place in Minneapolis, Minnesota. It is a horrible thing to watch. The woman screaming was, obviously, a professional agitator, and the woman driving the car was very disorderly, obstructing and resisting, who then violently, willfully, and viciously ran over the ICE Officer, who seems to have shot her in self defense. Based on the attached clip, it is hard to believe he is alive, but is now recovering in the hospital. The situation is being studied, in its entirety, but the reason these incidents are happening is because the Radical Left is threatening, assaulting, and targeting our Law Enforcement Officers and ICE Agents on a daily basis. They are just trying to do the job of MAKING AMERICA SAFE. We need to stand by and protect our Law Enforcement Officers from this Radical Left Movement of Violence and Hate!
That did not happen except on Fox News and in the lies that came out of Kristi Noem's mouth. And now yours.
They need external ICE agents because Minnesota police have such an appalling record...
Justine Damond, asking for help, shot by DEI hire
Daunte Wright, shot when the policewoman mistook her gun for a tazer, ffs,
Leneal Frazier, innocent bystander, killed by MPD officer who ran red light. he had been doing almost 100mph in a 25mph zone.
Amir Locke, shot in a 'no knock' warrant when he was neither named in the warrant or involved in the honicide investigation. holding a gun didnt help though.
Ricky Cobb II. Suspect was attempting to flee so officers fired into a moving car, both of which are ilegal apparently according to someposts on here.
About the only person MPD etc arent guilty of killing is George Floyd who had enouguh fentanyl in him to kill a horse.
ICE are not law enforcement; they are engaged in ethnic cleansing. And now murder of American citizens.
A gun is a weapon; a car is not. It only becomes so where there is a clear intent to kill. That is shown by intentionally driving over a person. This didn't happen. Nothing in Renee Good's actions showed any such intent. She even declared to the ICE agent she had no anger towards him. His life wasn't threatened. He swore at her and killed her. That is murder.
a car is a weapon when it intentionaly drives into someone;
In a case that started with an altercation at a Jacksonville Beach bar, the Florida Supreme Court on Thursday ruled that a car could be considered a ...
driving 'over' a person' is an unnecessary addition. she fully intended to drive where she was going, she was even told to by her wife. there was an ice person in front of her car, ergo she intended to hit him, which she succeeded in doing.
“Here, the plain and ordinary meaning of the word ‘weapon’ includes not only those objects designed with the purpose of injuring or killing another, such as guns, clubs, or swords, but also any object used with the intent to cause harm,” Labarga wrote in an opinion joined by Chief Justice Charles Canady and justices R. Fred Lewis, Peggy Quince, Ricky Polston and Alan Lawson. “This is evident in dictionary definitions, which consistently define ‘weapon’ to include objects used as weapons, even if they were not designed for that purpose.”
a car is a weapon when it intentionaly drives into someone;
ok. So the officer would have been within his rights to view the car as weapon if Good had intended to drive it into him i stead of turning to the side and trying to escape.
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