Hopkins dominates the mideast region on men's and women's side. Mens team average of 25:05- two guys under 25 and a freshman as their fourth man
Hopkins dominates the mideast region on men's and women's side. Mens team average of 25:05- two guys under 25 and a freshman as their fourth man
In the southeast regional at Christopher Newport Bridgewater took first for the guys and Trinity won for the girls. Great course, flat and fast, good weather too, a nice mid to low 60's with little wind and no sun for both races.
http://cnusports.com/documents/2013/11/16/NCAA_D3_South_Region_Chamionships.htm?id=2855
too many wrote:
NEMWME wrote:So how many teams from each region...
MW did not impress me with their results. Can't say they really deserve more than 5.
Nah, I would give them 4 AT MOST. Up top they are strong, but just don't really have the depth this year.
You're kidding, right? The Midwest Region has 7 teams in the top 35. If they don't get at least six, they're getting screwed.
DougC wrote:
too many wrote:Nah, I would give them 4 AT MOST. Up top they are strong, but just don't really have the depth this year.
You're kidding, right? The Midwest Region has 7 teams in the top 35. If they don't get at least six, they're getting screwed.
Gotta make sure they get at least 3 tesms out of the west or south. It's always an exciting battle to see if those teams can climb up to that #30 stop at Nats.
MmmmK Children, can you please stop embarrassing our program? Honestly. Here are a collection of YOUR posts from the past FIVE pages alone.
Wintheiser ran 20 seconds on a slower day this year than he did last year at MIACs... He got third at Griak and La Crosse last year too. He'll be up for the title with Crain, Padgett, Over, etc... Jake Brown, after seeing how well he ran at conference, should be up in the front too.
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He was in a boot supposedly. Regardless, Olaf's normal 4-7 stepped up but time.
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25:23? The season best that happened to land him in front of LaX's number 1? That was around 20 seconds faster than he ran at Eau Claire, a faster course? [Brown has] made a considerable amount of progress since the season started and that to me indicates that he has more potential come nationals than say, Garrett Patrick of WashU does. We obviously don't know, but that's what it indicates.
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Just look at the MIAC results from last year and those from this year and you'll understand what I'm saying.
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The St. Olaf course is 80 meters longer than 8k. Last 1600 times were around 16-18 seconds off the pace the majority of runners hit at the four-mile. The Oles will still be in it for the win.
Central is finally coming on with Horton and Jackson running where they should be.
Wintheiser, Horton, Brown and O'Brien will be in the mix individually.
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I understand that Stolaf is a relatively new program to the elite level and that it always feels like you have a chip on your shoulder. But no NCC, Midd, WashU, Williams (perennially good teams) are in here, day in and day out, posting. Your team is fine. That's okay. Please, give it a rest.
Mike "El Guapo Duque" LeDuc will return to the Charter Oak State victorious. Enjoy.
I was at the Midwest D3 regional yesterday. North Central cleaned up pretty well. A more competitive field should even things out a little but they will have to mess something up to take #2. Crain, Jenkins, and Sparks from WUSTL ran very well, moved up a lot and I expect them to be in contention to win. The other two in the top-5 (Wy-something? And Kutz) had great races but tend to fade at NCAAs. Padgett had a bit of an off-day (10th?) but is certainly someone who could finish top-10, given the season he's had, along with Klein from NCC. In my non-professional opinion, WashU is the number 2 team, NCC number 1, and they are the only 2 teams in contention.
That said, UW-EC raced VERY well and could finish top-5 on any given day.
North Central has to be the prohibitive favorite for next week after dusting a Wash U squad that should be the runner-up. Wash U didn't race well at regionals, although they tend to step up at nationals and Padgett and Ellenberger can do much better.
I would say St. Olaf is the only other team that has a shot to win, although they would need Lehn back at full strength and a good race from their 5. They seem like a good bet for third right now, second if Wash U doesn't bounce back.
After that I think it's a total toss up for the final podium spot between Central, any of UW Oshkosh, LaCrosse, or Eau Claire, Midd/Williams, Cortland, and Johns Hopkins. Possibly in that order? Although it's very tough to say.
Top Guys: Crain, Over, LeDuc, Wintheiser, Stadler, Sparks, Horton, Cotton, O'Brien, Padgett?
For the women, Johns Hopkins should win and have four of the top 20 or so. After that it's probably Midd/Williams in some order, then a toss-up between Wartburg, CMS, Calvin, and MIT (maybe NYU and St. Lawrence too)
Vince and Oneda are probably the top 2, although it seems like there's always more surprises on the women's side.
Unofficial predicted qualifiers:
Automatic Qualifiers, by region:
1. Williams – New England #1
2. Middlebury – New England #2
3. SUNY Cortland – Atlantic #1
4. NYU – Atlantic #2
5. Johns Hopkins – Mideast #1
6. Dickinson – Mideast #2
7. Bridgewater (Va.) – South #1
8. Emory – South #2
9. Wabash – Great Lakes #1
10. Calvin – Great Lakes #2
11. North Central – Midwest #1
12. Washington – Midwest #2
13. St. Olaf – Central #1
14. Central – Central #2
15. Pomona-Pitzer – West #1
16. Claremont-Mudd-Scripps – West #2
Non-automatic qualifiers, by region (National Rank going into regionals):
17. UW-Oshkosh – Midwest #3 (11th)
18. UW-Eau Claire – Midwest #4 (9th)
19. UW-La Crosse – Midwest #5 (4th)
20. Chicago – Midwest #6 (17th)
21. MIT – New England #3 (16th)
22. Tufts – New England #4 (13th)
23. Bates – New England #5 (32nd) – Pushed in by Bowdoin
24. Colby – New England #6 (26th) – Pushed in by Bowdoin
25. Bowdoin – New England #7 (21st)
26. SUNY Geneseo – Atlantic #3 (19th)
27. Haverford – Mideast #3 (15th)
28. Allegheny – Mideast #4 (31st) – Pushed in by Carnegie Mellon
29. Carnegie Mellon – Mideast #5 (24th)
30. Luther – Central #3 (28th)
31. Carleton – Central #4 (33rd) – Pushed in by Loras
32. Loras – Central #5 (22nd)
First few teams out:
Willamette – West #3 (23rd) – Pushed out by #36 Pomona-Pitzer winning the West region
St. Lawrence – Atlantic #4 (27th) – Pushed out by Bowdoin, Carnegie Mellon, and Loras underperforming at the regional meets
Wheaton (Ill.) – Midwest #7 (30th) – Pushed out by Bowdoin, Carnegie Mellon, and Loras underperforming at the regional meets
UW Stout – Midwest #8 (25th) – Pushed out by Wheaton.
yeah.
I would agree that NCC is the clear favorite at this point. And I think it will be an exciting battle for the second spot. St. Olaf and Wash U. come to mind as the most likely #2 teams (Lacrosse hasn't been performing well late season? Maybe Williams?) However, I do think that if for any reason, NCC under performs and either St. Olaf or Wash U. race out of their minds either team could contend for the title. Should be an exiting race.
How does Bowdoin push anyone in? They did not race out of region and they did not run well at regional. Bates getting 5th pushes Coldby and Bowdoin out.
This is not d1 with points. No pushing going on. #1 criteria for qualification is regional finish.
it's amazing how few guys who keep these threads alive actually understand the selection criteria.
No way SLU does not make it (annual qualifier with lots of national respect). Could also see RPI from the AR making it as they were only 30 points behind them and 100 points ahead of 6th place UR who qualified last year.
enlighten us...
you already did. i am agreeing with you.
People on this thread don't seem to realize that the latest rankings really don't mean anything, and it really is all about your regional finish.
Observalanty wrote:
I would agree that NCC is the clear favorite at this point. And I think it will be an exciting battle for the second spot. St. Olaf and Wash U. come to mind as the most likely #2 teams (Lacrosse hasn't been performing well late season? Maybe Williams?) However, I do think that if for any reason, NCC under performs and either St. Olaf or Wash U. race out of their minds either team could contend for the title. Should be an exiting race.
I guess the question is whether WashU or St. Olaf are close enough to NCC to pull off an upset, like Haverford a couple years ago. WashU seems to have had a few guys who were a little off at regionals - was that just a bad race or sickness/injury?
Riot wrote:
Observalanty wrote:I would agree that NCC is the clear favorite at this point. And I think it will be an exciting battle for the second spot. St. Olaf and Wash U. come to mind as the most likely #2 teams (Lacrosse hasn't been performing well late season? Maybe Williams?) However, I do think that if for any reason, NCC under performs and either St. Olaf or Wash U. race out of their minds either team could contend for the title. Should be an exiting race.
I guess the question is whether WashU or St. Olaf are close enough to NCC to pull off an upset, like Haverford a couple years ago. WashU seems to have had a few guys who were a little off at regionals - was that just a bad race or sickness/injury?
I talked to Padget after the race, he says he might have a stress fracture.
Something that really strikes me about Hopkins' performance over the last few weeks (conferences to regionals)is the fact that they've been able to move forward without Weston Butler. Imagine how much their team would've benefited from the presence of a (reported but unconfirmed) six time medalist at the greater baltimore wingman competition held in the inner harbor. With Weston out there pushing his boys forward, god only knows how fast they would've run. A sub 25 average perhaps? The world may never know.....