Unfortunately for Samsonite, he ran the best race he could ever hope to run at Conference in perfect conditions, my bet is he can't run any faster.
Why is Fermoyle going to run a 5k? He looked terrible in the conference 5k and clearly needs some rest if he hopes to perform well at Nationals.
fermoyle running a 5k makes no sense. he should have just entered a 10k this weekend instead of trying to race himself. to say that swanson ran the best race he could ever hope to is absurd. he has ran multiple races this outdoor, by himself, including a 10k around 31:40 at the start of the season where 2nd place was mid 33s. swanson is capable of running under 30:30 if conditions are good and both him and sepe may edge fermoyle out of nationals. thats my prediction, especially since there will be plenty of guys shooting for that time.
agree to agree on Fermoyle... he should seriously consider running another 10k, especially with all those Calvin boys together and on his heels.
agree to disagree on Swanson and Sepe, we've seen the best performances we're going to see out of each of them this year, my prediction.
Fermoyle ran 14:39 on March 9th. My guess is that 5K at outdoor conference was a fluke, and I'd place a bet that he could run 14:30-ish with a fast field.
No gleason in the 5k at North Central. Only the 1500. I would think he has a better shot at a 14:30 than a 3:51. I know his 5k's early in outdoor weren't up to par with his indoor times, but you'd think he'd give one another shot while he's peaking?
chunk wrote:
Fermoyle ran 14:39 on March 9th. My guess is that 5K at outdoor conference was a fluke, and I'd place a bet that he could run 14:30-ish with a fast field.
I'm not sure I'd call it a fluke since he was clearly fatigued from an all out 10k effort the day before. Good point on the indoor 14:39 and it's looking like a 14:30 could get him into the 5k. I'm now on board with you and think, despite the risk of overall fatigue, it's worth going after the 5k in case he gets bumped in the 10. Thanks for your insight.
I'm going to go with no on Sepe, or especially Swanson, having any chance of beating Fermoyle at Nationals in the 10k, if either of them either qualify. Kelly dominated both Swanson and Sepe at conference, what makes you think either of them could beat him?
didnt say beat, said they would get in a good field this weekend and run faster than fermoyle's best time. if fermoyle waited to run like he should have, and let the 10k turn into a 32 min win, he could have attempted it this weekend. i agree that sepe and swanson wouldn't beat fermoyle, but i do think they can both run faster than fermoyle ran by himself at conference. just my thoughts. maybe conditions wont be good and it wont matter anyways.
what up wrote:
sepe is entered in 5 and 10? anyone know which race he is going to do?.
big dog gotta eat
Sorry, I completely misread your post. Although I'm not sure that Swanson and Sepe can get a better time than Fermoyle, your post does make more sense now that I read it again.
ALso interesting wrote:
No gleason in the 5k at North Central. Only the 1500. I would think he has a better shot at a 14:30 than a 3:51. I know his 5k's early in outdoor weren't up to par with his indoor times, but you'd think he'd give one another shot while he's peaking?
Well I think with his 1:53 split in the 4x8 he might be able to run 3:51...although i would agree that he would be better suited in the 5k..I think freshness of legs is the issue though, the 5k is at night on a thurs and Im sure his weekend would have more affect on this race than a 5k
Has anyone found a site with pics?
If that were true, why didn't they just beat him at conference? Conditions were ideal, they gotta know Erichsen was gonna stay with them, so they would have had a 4 pack going, which is just about the perfect group to run with, any more and it can start to get a bit crowded (I think 5 or 6 is the best crew to roll with)They will not run under 30:38.Kelly running another 10k this week would ruin any shot at placing well at NCAAs, since he ran Gina, MIAC , the hypothetical last chance, and NCAAs in a 5 week span. He is a strong runner, but not that strong.
a realist wrote:
didnt say beat, said they would get in a good field this weekend and run faster than fermoyle's best time. if fermoyle waited to run like he should have, and let the 10k turn into a 32 min win, he could have attempted it this weekend. i agree that sepe and swanson wouldn't beat fermoyle, but i do think they can both run faster than fermoyle ran by himself at conference. just my thoughts. maybe conditions wont be good and it wont matter anyways.
so i hate to give compliments, but i must admit i was impressed with erichsen's performances this past weekend. i thought kennedy had a chance at him in the steeple for a split second until erichsen decided to start racing with 200 left. it seemed like he wasn't even trying until that point in the race.
it would have been nice if he waited until 150-200 left in the 5k to really start sprinting because it would have made the race a little more exciting. he even had the confidence to slow the pace with about a few laps left to let kelly catch up to boumeester.
hypothetically, does anyone think he could have won the 1500 too? i actually didn't expect him to win the three races he entered, but after watching his domination of the fields in each race (aside from fermoyle in the 10k), i think he may have been able to win the 1500 too. anyone else?
i would imagine gleason is pretty tired. it's been a long season. i know that i'd much rather run a 1500 than a 5k any day (especially on a track) but that's just me. so it doesn't surprise me that he'll try to go in the 1500. with about 200 to it looked like ust was going to go 1-2 and gleason was going to fade to fourth or worse, but somehow he summoned that incredible kick. this was easily the best race of the day.
ari gold wrote:
so i hate to give compliments, but i must admit i was impressed with erichsen's performances this past weekend. i thought kennedy had a chance at him in the steeple for a split second until erichsen decided to start racing with 200 left. it seemed like he wasn't even trying until that point in the race.
it would have been nice if he waited until 150-200 left in the 5k to really start sprinting because it would have made the race a little more exciting. he even had the confidence to slow the pace with about a few laps left to let kelly catch up to boumeester.
hypothetically, does anyone think he could have won the 1500 too? i actually didn't expect him to win the three races he entered, but after watching his domination of the fields in each race (aside from fermoyle in the 10k), i think he may have been able to win the 1500 too. anyone else?
i would imagine gleason is pretty tired. it's been a long season. i know that i'd much rather run a 1500 than a 5k any day (especially on a track) but that's just me. so it doesn't surprise me that he'll try to go in the 1500. with about 200 to it looked like ust was going to go 1-2 and gleason was going to fade to fourth or worse, but somehow he summoned that incredible kick. this was easily the best race of the day.
I don't think Erichsen could have won that 1500m after the steeple. If you meant had he not run the steeple, I think he could have had a good shot at the 1500m, but not a guarantee.
Last chance results from La Crosse
http://www.uwlax.edu/athletics/mtrack/results/ResultsUWL_Qualifier.htm
Sepe ran 14:42 at North Central. Boumeester ran 3:53, Sames 1:51-high.
It looks like Fermoyle might be one of the last guys out in the 10k. 3 guys ran fast than him last night out east in the ECAC meet. He's sitting at maybe 17th-18th now. I thought if he could make it in he'd probably race pretty well, tough luck.
i meant in addition to the steeple. i don't think he would definitely have won, but he might have had a chance. he just looked inhuman in the three races he ran; would have been nice to see him pushed a little bit.
and nice job to gladitsch in the steeple at that lax meet. way to represent the miac, if you know what i mean.
An Erichsen-Boumeester-Gleason match up at 1500 would have been interesting...