this is it wrote:
Where Flagpole at? He got some explaining to do..
Mueller is going home.
Clownpole rules the White House 2020, perhaps beyond.
Media, President, DOJ and FBI tainted by affair.
this is it wrote:
Where Flagpole at? He got some explaining to do..
Mueller is going home.
Clownpole rules the White House 2020, perhaps beyond.
Media, President, DOJ and FBI tainted by affair.
Sally Vix wrote:
Famous last words (I forget who on here kept repeating these words):
Mueller is coming
The clown is done.
Yeah, that’s pretty funny.
Mueller can’t give much damning evidence because he essentially is giving it to Trump to release.
But he did give a lot to the SDNY.
Mueller was the misdirection.
Someone posted, let the leaks begin.
That could be interesting.
Read the papers & weep, trumpers.
And to my Russian friends: you won’t get to vote this time. Sally, your next job will pay much better, and you won’t even have to sit up straight.
Get a psych evaluation Jesse.
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Get a psych evaluation Jesse.
So cries the Trumper who lives fulltime in a Trump Echo Chamber.
Echo Chamber wrote:
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Get a psych evaluation Jesse.
So cries the Trumper who lives fulltime in a Trump Echo Chamber.
Huh? No, far from the truth. You on the other hand want to believeTrump colluded with the Russians to steal the election even though there is no proof. So far it is clear parties in the DOJ and FBI colluded to influence the investigation of Clinton emails.
moral of the story
teleprompter readers do not control the world. they just read off what they are told, and you parrot it.
could be the lowest IQ in history america today.
in japan, china, russia, they know who's running what, at least in america about 20 percent get it.
in those other countries it is more like 90 percent.
the west are easily the worst in IQ for knowing the price of rice, and where their pie hole is, and useful stuff like that.
Least I got a name, schizo
Beto-AOC
Sally Vix wrote:
All the Democrats in Congress demanding the report be made public may rue the day that they demanded that.
ah, the Venezuela party that tends shoots itself not only in the feet, but head, suicide by multiple gunshots, 100 trillion dollar budgets, railway plans to cross the pacific ocean, the rebuilding of america and every building in it,
ya, great idea, stupid trump wants the report released, and the dems chime in, ya, the venezuela party strikes again.
sooner or later darwin with bury these people, animals with no brain and muscles have to die, but why is it taking so long mr. darwin?
don't understand evolution, or devolution which is the case of america.
Let me break it down, geniuses:
Cyrillic characters (Sally)=Russian
Agreeing with Sally=traitor
No wonder trump fooled you people
roger stone bust is 100% fake also, it's harassment, and example set to keep everyone shut up across the board.
if you embarrass power brokers, you get a ton of law suits dumped on your head,
no matter about substance, you divorced your jewish wife, they'l call you a holocaust denier.
it's full on kangaroo court, but it can't go on, maybe it's peaked.
because the whole fabric will crumble, as per ussr collapse.
which happened when the party bosses did everything they wanted but the public would not move the machinery any more.
= the end.
Hi sally, nice capitalization
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Echo Chamber wrote:
So cries the Trumper who lives fulltime in a Trump Echo Chamber.
Huh? No, far from the truth. You on the other hand want to believeTrump colluded with the Russians to steal the election even though there is no proof. So far it is clear parties in the DOJ and FBI colluded to influence the investigation of Clinton emails.
I don’t think anyone with a sense of reality thought conspiracy was going to be proven.
The conspiracy would have totally been dependent on the Trump Tower meeting and whether or not the campaign received a “thing of value”. No one stole an election. Clinton was just a horrible candidate.
I’ve always said this is mostly about the money, about the brand and about the Trump Tower in Moscow. Now it might eventually be proven then Trump and associates are simply using the presidency to increase their brand and to increase their wealth and that their decisions are soley based on achieving that outcome. Trump is indebted to foreign banks with Russian ties and he obviously wants a Trump Tower in Russia more than anything else. I think ultimately that’s why he took Putin’s word over his own intel agencies.
I think in the report it will not say “there was no conspiracy”. It will likely say they can’t say whether there was or there wasn’t but there were some suspicious ties between Trump and associates and Russia. In the end it’s a matter of proving intent and that’s hard. It will likely mention possible and numerous financial crimes redirected to SDNY.
Either way. It’s wont affect 2020. People’s minds are already pretty much made up. Again. It’s all about turning out your people.
Alan
Runningart2004 wrote:
Ghost of Igloi wrote:
Huh? No, far from the truth. You on the other hand want to believeTrump colluded with the Russians to steal the election even though there is no proof. So far it is clear parties in the DOJ and FBI colluded to influence the investigation of Clinton emails.
I don’t think anyone with a sense of reality thought conspiracy was going to be proven.
The conspiracy would have totally been dependent on the Trump Tower meeting and whether or not the campaign received a “thing of value”. No one stole an election. Clinton was just a horrible candidate.
I’ve always said this is mostly about the money, about the brand and about the Trump Tower in Moscow. Now it might eventually be proven then Trump and associates are simply using the presidency to increase their brand and to increase their wealth and that their decisions are soley based on achieving that outcome. Trump is indebted to foreign banks with Russian ties and he obviously wants a Trump Tower in Russia more than anything else. I think ultimately that’s why he took Putin’s word over his own intel agencies.
I think in the report it will not say “there was no conspiracy”. It will likely say they can’t say whether there was or there wasn’t but there were some suspicious ties between Trump and associates and Russia. In the end it’s a matter of proving intent and that’s hard. It will likely mention possible and numerous financial crimes redirected to SDNY.
Either way. It’s wont affect 2020. People’s minds are already pretty much made up. Again. It’s all about turning out your people.
Alan
Agree. No smoking gun. 2020 will be a dogfight. I am not sure who has a legit shot at beating Trump. The Dems will really need to get their sh!t together to win back the POTUS.
Agreeable Andrew wrote:
Runningart2004 wrote:
I don’t think anyone with a sense of reality thought conspiracy was going to be proven.
The conspiracy would have totally been dependent on the Trump Tower meeting and whether or not the campaign received a “thing of value”. No one stole an election. Clinton was just a horrible candidate.
I’ve always said this is mostly about the money, about the brand and about the Trump Tower in Moscow. Now it might eventually be proven then Trump and associates are simply using the presidency to increase their brand and to increase their wealth and that their decisions are soley based on achieving that outcome. Trump is indebted to foreign banks with Russian ties and he obviously wants a Trump Tower in Russia more than anything else. I think ultimately that’s why he took Putin’s word over his own intel agencies.
I think in the report it will not say “there was no conspiracy”. It will likely say they can’t say whether there was or there wasn’t but there were some suspicious ties between Trump and associates and Russia. In the end it’s a matter of proving intent and that’s hard. It will likely mention possible and numerous financial crimes redirected to SDNY.
Either way. It’s wont affect 2020. People’s minds are already pretty much made up. Again. It’s all about turning out your people.
Alan
Agree. No smoking gun. 2020 will be a dogfight. I am not sure who has a legit shot at beating Trump. The Dems will really need to get their sh!t together to win back the POTUS.
Agree to Disagree...
I think the scary part is they can put out anyone and they will beat Trunp. Polls already show he’s behind against candidates voters barely know. State polls show his approval under water across the board. The motivation is at fever pitch in the Democrat Party so you won’t see angry Sanders voters stay home.
These things will happen:
1. Trump and associates will continue to be investigated in the House and SDNY through Election Day 2020.
2. There will be a recession or economic stagnation before Election Day 2020.
3. He will then lose to a moderate Democrat in a landslide, likely losing TX.
4. The Dem nominee will likely be Beto.
5. Betomania will take the country by storm. Why? Because people are sheep man. They like the pretty thing, they like the stars. Your average American will vote for Beto.
6. Biden has the most experience and likely should be president.
7. Sanders and Warren have the most far out ideas and would motivate the other base too much.
8. Harris and Booker are too “scary” for some older voters.
Alan
Agree, if trump can get the Russians to vote again (and post here!)...
Runningart2004 wrote:
Agreeable Andrew wrote:
Agree. No smoking gun. 2020 will be a dogfight. I am not sure who has a legit shot at beating Trump. The Dems will really need to get their sh!t together to win back the POTUS.
Agree to Disagree...
I think the scary part is they can put out anyone and they will beat Trunp. Polls already show he’s behind against candidates voters barely know. State polls show his approval under water across the board. The motivation is at fever pitch in the Democrat Party so you won’t see angry Sanders voters stay home.
These things will happen:
1. Trump and associates will continue to be investigated in the House and SDNY through Election Day 2020.
2. There will be a recession or economic stagnation before Election Day 2020.
3. He will then lose to a moderate Democrat in a landslide, likely losing TX.
4. The Dem nominee will likely be Beto.
5. Betomania will take the country by storm. Why? Because people are sheep man. They like the pretty thing, they like the stars. Your average American will vote for Beto.
6. Biden has the most experience and likely should be president.
7. Sanders and Warren have the most far out ideas and would motivate the other base too much.
8. Harris and Booker are too “scary” for some older voters.
Alan
I agree with 1,2, and 6 - 8. Initially I was on the Beto bandwagon as well. He might still be the candidate the Dems need but I think his campaign roll out has been less then impressive. Lots of missteps and foot-in-mouth moments. On election night in 2018 I thought he might actually beat Cruz late into the night which is nuts.
If he can get his house in order he could very well win. You are absolutely correct to say that if Beto 2018 shows up, Trump is in serious trouble. There is no way Trump wins without Texas.
Here are the crimes that Flagpole convinced us that Trump and gang would be indicted for ...
These are the things:
Obstruction of Justice
Money Laundering
Perjury (this one I have said and still maintain is a certainty if he talks to Mueller, and likely even if not)
Suborning perjury
Conspiracy against the United States (could end up being bribery or aiding and abetting instead OR in addition)
Bank fraud and/or wire fraud
Insurance fraud
Emoluments clause violation
Witness tampering
RICO
Some sort of computer hacking or privacy violation
Something to do with chattels
Something none of us have heard of yet
Probably something I forgot -- there's just so much it's hard to keep it all straight