Happened last year too. These things tend to predict recessions. Tick, tock, tick, tock...
Alan
Sally Vix wrote:
Flagpole, a direct question to you and others if they wish to jump in. A baby survives a botched abortion and is born alive, healthy and a viable baby outside of the womb. Are you okay with the mother and doctor exterminating the baby?
I told you before that I will not engage in abortion discussions.
Flagpole wrote:
agip wrote:
I'm not liberal, I'm a moderate and I'd guess flagpole considers himself a moderate also.
Anyway, interesting rethink of the electoral college here. Seems that we have to stop talking about it havign a small state bias, and instead blaming the 'winner take all' nature of the state elections. The states don't have to do that...it's traditional., not constitutional.
It's true that trump won a lot of large states.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/22/upshot/electoral-college-votes-states.html?action=click&module=Well&pgtype=Homepage§ion=The%20UpshotMaybe as a mashup I am a moderate...still leaning left even with all things considered.
I am extremely liberal socially...support gay rights, women's rights, marijuana legalization (though Libertarians can claim that too), women's right to choose, more money for education (but not FREE college) majority of government programs should be to help the less advantaged, etc.
I am fiscally conservative. No FREE college as I said, because it is a fools errand and would only help to get the very bottom of the barrel students to attempt college, and not everyone should go to college. Some argue that free college means no student loans which means more money to spend to help the economy, but I don't see this as ending up helping more than it hurts. I am OK with tax cuts in some cases...like when the economy NEEDS a boost, but not for it when the economy was already humming along. I am MUCH more for eliminating government waste.
Mostly when someone asks if you are liberal or conservative, they do mean your stance on social issues. On that I am clearly and proudly liberal.
Everyone who wants to go to college should be able to go for free. Do you ever wonder why certain groups, on average, can't get ahead.
The recent scandal involving rich people buying their kids' way into college should have opened up your eyes to the problem.
Babies... wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
Flagpole, a direct question to you and others if they wish to jump in. A baby survives a botched abortion and is born alive, healthy and a viable baby outside of the womb. Are you okay with the mother and doctor exterminating the baby?
You have a gross obsession with other people's babies. On one hand you want the moment of fertilization to be moment of abortions are banned--damn the health risks to the mother, or the mother's financial situation. And on the other hand you want the social safety net for mothers in financial need eliminated. Yup.
Idiotic post.
Next.
Askerer of questions wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
Maybe as a mashup I am a moderate...still leaning left even with all things considered.
I am extremely liberal socially...support gay rights, women's rights, marijuana legalization (though Libertarians can claim that too), women's right to choose, more money for education (but not FREE college) majority of government programs should be to help the less advantaged, etc.
I am fiscally conservative. No FREE college as I said, because it is a fools errand and would only help to get the very bottom of the barrel students to attempt college, and not everyone should go to college. Some argue that free college means no student loans which means more money to spend to help the economy, but I don't see this as ending up helping more than it hurts. I am OK with tax cuts in some cases...like when the economy NEEDS a boost, but not for it when the economy was already humming along. I am MUCH more for eliminating government waste.
Mostly when someone asks if you are liberal or conservative, they do mean your stance on social issues. On that I am clearly and proudly liberal.
Do you support illegal aliens receiving medicare and be allowed to vote in national elections?
Meh...too many extenuating circumstances. I have no need to define or defend every political position I hold TODAY, so your question goes unanswered.
Askerer of questions wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
Maybe as a mashup I am a moderate...still leaning left even with all things considered.
I am extremely liberal socially...support gay rights, women's rights, marijuana legalization (though Libertarians can claim that too), women's right to choose, more money for education (but not FREE college) majority of government programs should be to help the less advantaged, etc.
I am fiscally conservative. No FREE college as I said, because it is a fools errand and would only help to get the very bottom of the barrel students to attempt college, and not everyone should go to college. Some argue that free college means no student loans which means more money to spend to help the economy, but I don't see this as ending up helping more than it hurts. I am OK with tax cuts in some cases...like when the economy NEEDS a boost, but not for it when the economy was already humming along. I am MUCH more for eliminating government waste.
Mostly when someone asks if you are liberal or conservative, they do mean your stance on social issues. On that I am clearly and proudly liberal.
Do you support undocumented workers receiving medicare and be allowed to vote in national elections?
FIFY
The term "illegal aliens" is very racist. I know you trumpers don't want to be labeled as racist.
Flagpole wrote:
Askerer of questions wrote:
Do you support illegal aliens receiving medicare and be allowed to vote in national elections?
Meh...too many extenuating circumstances. I have no need to define or defend every political position I hold TODAY, so your question goes unanswered.
Fair of you to ask by the way, so I'm not trying to be a d!ck here. I will in fact on occasion ask others their stance on certain issues, and then they, as do I, have a right to refuse to answer.
Flagpole wrote:
Askerer of questions wrote:
Do you support illegal aliens receiving medicare and be allowed to vote in national elections?
Meh...too many extenuating circumstances. I have no need to define or defend every political position I hold TODAY, so your question goes unanswered.
Okay, you don't need to engage in abortion discussions. There are NO extenuating circumstances with this question I pose to you ... should illegal aliens be allowed to vote in our national elections. I think only citizens should be allowed. What say you? Very simple question.
Wrong Again wrote:
Everyone who wants to go to college should be able to go for free. Do you ever wonder why certain groups, on average, can't get ahead.
The recent scandal involving rich people buying their kids' way into college should have opened up your eyes to the problem.
That there are problems, even BIG problems with higher education doesn't mean we need to open it for FREE to everyone. A good poor student can go to college for next to nothing as it is based on need. There are plenty of ways for people to get through college with next to no debt or no debt.
BUT, as I said in a subsequent post to the one you mentioned:
"Now, how about this? IF you get through and get a 4-year degree, then the government pays you back all you paid for the degree! Also, you should be able to borrow the money interest free while in college. Now THAT I would get behind! Not up front though."
I haven't heard that mentioned before. If that's the case, I'm all for it. Just free to enter and start taking classes though for anyone...people who ultimately will not be able to finish the degree? Nope.
Sally’s country (Russia) has more abortions than any other.
The government is to inept to provide condoms.
Sally Vix wrote:
Please tell me where I am wrong. I truly want to know.
You refuse to allow scary Brown babies into the US. You want to build a wall to keep them out, you want them shot on sight, and you not one penny of your money spent on them. Dude., how could you not know this about yourself?
Babies... wrote:
Sally Vix wrote:
Flagpole, a direct question to you and others if they wish to jump in. A baby survives a botched abortion and is born alive, healthy and a viable baby outside of the womb. Are you okay with the mother and doctor exterminating the baby?
You have a gross obsession with other people's babies. On one hand you want the moment of fertilization to be moment of abortions are banned--damn the health risks to the mother, or the mother's financial situation. And on the other hand you want the social safety net for mothers in financial need eliminated. Yup.
Spot on post.
It appears that Attorney General Barr has just received the Mueller report. Trump may be finished!
L L wrote:
For instance, I don't know if Republicans like this:
“It was announced today by the U.S. Treasury that additional large scale Sanctions would be added to those already existing Sanctions on North Korea. I have today ordered the withdrawal of those additional Sanctions!” Trump tweeted Friday.
When asked to explain Trump’s tweet, White House press secretary Sarah Sanders simply noted that “President Trump likes Chairman Kim and he doesn’t think these sanctions will be necessary.”
So?
TrumpSpeak wrote:
Rigged for Hillary wrote:
I prefer that you post a youtube video on this thread of yourself stating that you were wrong and say that Rigged was right.
That is my price.
You are posting in TrumpSpeak. Referring to yourself. Maybe you forgot to use on of your fake names to post "anonymous" support for Rigged.
Clownpole always refers to himself in the same way. You never made a peep about that.
Troll harder next time.
Mueller's report is done.
Sally Vix wrote:
It appears that Attorney General Barr has just received the Mueller report. Trump may be finished!
So that's why he's sent out dozens of crazy tweet, rewritten NK policy, rewritten Golan Hts policy, and introduced himself to reports by saying 'no collusion.'
Sounds to me that there is a whole lot of dirt on trumps and kushners...but no collusion.
Sally Vix wrote:
Flagpole wrote:
Meh...too many extenuating circumstances. I have no need to define or defend every political position I hold TODAY, so your question goes unanswered.
Okay, you don't need to engage in abortion discussions. There are NO extenuating circumstances with this question I pose to you ... should illegal aliens be allowed to vote in our national elections. I think only citizens should be allowed. What say you? Very simple question.
There actually ARE extenuating circumstances with that question. Always know that I am a rule of law person, and so, unless there is a gross injustice (because there are sometimes), I typically side with what the law says. The law is not 100% settled with your question, and states have different laws even considering who can vote in national elections. A yes or a no answer to your question pigeonholes me with regard to that answer, so I am not willing to give a solid yes or no answer as we sit here today. Would I like a firm decision legally on this issue? Yes.
disgusting trump
https://twitter.com/Mikel_Jollett/status/1109183555370778624