"Pandemic of the unvaccinated" CONFIRMED

fisky wrote:

I'd like to see this data. Can you provide a source where I can see... for example

newly diagnosed cases of myocarditis

by age group

by vaccination status

on a timeline

that also shows historical rates of newly diagnosed cases of myocarditis.

The chart below is all-cause deaths, so a very coarse look at the most adverse of adverse effects. You'll notice a blip in heart disease attributed deaths coincident with the onset of the first wave in particular and the second wave less distinctly. At the onset of the first wave, notice also blips in other causes of deaths which strongly suggests a Covid contribution to "other cause" during a period when Covid testing was sparse. It is well documented that myocarditis is one of the potential complication of a Covid infection.

Here is the same thing for 2021. You'll notice a relative high in heart related deaths in the early part of the year which might be attributed to normal seasonal variation, the winter wave of Covid, and arguably the introduction of the vaccine. That it diminishes during a period of increasing vaccination penetration discounts the latter hypothesis.

It should not require repeating, but one that many hundreds of thousands of Americans have died of Covid over the past few years and if there is any signal of vaccine fatalities, it is at least a couple orders of magnitude less.

Monkeys Skyping: Thanks for a civil and factual (with sources) contribution to the discussion.

Democrats lose again!!!

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fredo cuomo wrote:

https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1470175590686859271?s=20

Democrats lose again!!!

As usual, "cases" don't mean sh!t. What counts are hospitalizations and especially deaths.

NYCers test a lot, so infected people with low or no symptoms will show up more than will be the case in Florida, where people (including mulitple branches of my family) tend to get tested only if/when they show up at the emergency room.

kibitzer wrote:

Monkeys Skyping: Thanks for a civil and factual (with sources) contribution to the discussion.

Thanks. I'll check these out later today.

t6i wrote:

fredo cuomo wrote:

https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1470175590686859271?s=20

Democrats lose again!!!

As usual, "cases" don't mean sh!t. What counts are hospitalizations and especially deaths.

NYCers test a lot, so infected people with low or no symptoms will show up more than will be the case in Florida, where people (including mulitple branches of my family) tend to get tested only if/when they show up at the emergency room.

New York State sustained a lot of deaths early on, when nobody knew a whole lot about this virus and, obviously, before the vaccines were approved. At one point, NY had more deaths from Covid then any other state, by a long shot.

Florida appears not to have learned the lessons that NY taught, and has surged ahead of NY in total deaths SINCE THE APPROVAL OF THE VACCINE. I don't know if DeSantis is just cynically putting politics before the safety of Floridians, or if he is just incompetent, but whatever he is doing appears to have cost a lot of lives.

Total Covid deaths - January 1, 2021

New York: 30,208

Florida: 22,210

Total Covid deaths - December 13, 2021

New York: 58,168

Florida: 62,026

75 still alive wrote:

Actually I understand biology and physiology quite well and much better than you do.

But go ahead and keep taking your poisonous shots and thinking the poisons will somehow make you healthy.

The truth is that the body doesn't work that way, and no one protects me but myself.

2600 bro wrote:

I am quite sure, deep down, you understand the risk you are taking, the burden you place on your loved ones, and how you viewed by civilized society.

Yes, people look up to me as though I'm a God, a savior of humanity and freedom for all living things.

Yes, I'm certainly well aware of this.

75 still alive wrote:

75 still alive wrote:

Actually I understand biology and physiology quite well and much better than you do.

But go ahead and keep taking your poisonous shots and thinking the poisons will somehow make you healthy.

The truth is that the body doesn't work that way, and no one protects me but myself.

2600 bro wrote:

I am quite sure, deep down, you understand the risk you are taking, the burden you place on your loved ones, and how you viewed by civilized society.

Yes, people look up to me as though I'm a God, a savior of humanity and freedom for all living things.

Yes, I'm certainly well aware of this.

Might be a good idea to take a closer look at the facts before spouting off on who is putting their family at risk. I understand bro and Harambe are narcissists, but that doesn’t skewer what’s going on. Omicron is on attack for the vaccinated.

Noyankee wrote:

Might be a good idea to take a closer look at the facts before spouting off on who is putting their family at risk. I understand bro and Harambe are narcissists, but that doesn’t skewer what’s going on. Omicron is on attack for the vaccinated.

Humanity is playing a dangerous game. Relentlessly injecting billions of people with an experimental chemical and biological formulation in the faint hope that the effects from the latest version of Covid can be mitigated Absolutely no regard for the possibility of serious long term consequences. 3 shots in 8 months, 4 shots in less than 12 months, when will the 5th, 6th and 7th shots be deemed necessary ?

I hope and pray the world avoids a horrible outcome of cataclysmic proportions.

DanM wrote:

Noyankee wrote:

Might be a good idea to take a closer look at the facts before spouting off on who is putting their family at risk. I understand bro and Harambe are narcissists, but that doesn’t skewer what’s going on. Omicron is on attack for the vaccinated.

Humanity is playing a dangerous game. Relentlessly injecting billions of people with an experimental chemical and biological formulation in the faint hope that the effects from the latest version of Covid can be mitigated Absolutely no regard for the possibility of serious long term consequences. 3 shots in 8 months, 4 shots in less than 12 months, when will the 5th, 6th and 7th shots be deemed necessary ?

I hope and pray the world avoids a horrible outcome of cataclysmic proportions.

It makes zero sense, in the name of health. You do not take healthy people who have almost zero risk and force them into an unhealthy experiment. No matter what the narcissist says, this vaccine does not improve your immune system. That’s impossible, else people wouldn’t be getting enlarged hearts and all the rest of it. It just makes no sense why any active runner would even consider this. But they do.

The only explanation is that this bioweapon is something the CDC and Fauci do not want to tell us. What we already know. People need to wake up. If you think being an active runner with 4/5/6/7/8/9….doses of this stuff is good for you, when otherwise you are at no risk, then you only have you to blame. The mirror will be your weapon.

Billions of people have been vaccinated for well over 6 months now and incidence of severe outcome is extremely low, never mind comparing that to morbidity and death from covid.

You guys have to be trolls...

Some data from Europe:

Country Vaccination Rate Weekly Case Rate Weekly death rate

Gibraltar 303 doses/ 100 people 4,573 per million 30 per million

Iceland 201 doses/ 100 people 2,569 per million 0 per million

Malta 192 doses/ 100 people 1,381 per million 5 per million

Channel Islands 190 doses/ 100 people 8,139 per million 17 per million

Portugal 180 doses/ 100 people 2,708 per million 12 per million

UK 178 doses/ 100 people 5,200 per million 12 per million

Denmark 176 doses/ 100 people 7,777 per million 12 ​per million

Ireland 172 doses/ 100 people 5,854 per million 16 per million

ltaly 169 doses/ 100 people 1,930 per million 11 per million

Belgium 169 doses/ 100 people 7,461 per million 24 per million

Austria 168 doses/ 100 people 3,255 per million 40 per million

Spain 166 doses/ 100 people 1,396 per million 4 per million

Norway 166 doses/ 100 people 5,909 per million 8 per million

...

Sweden 163 doses/ 100 people 1,169 per million 0.5 per million

and for comparison

USA 146 doses/ 100 people 2,138 per million 23 per million

High vaccination rate does not necessarily mean low case rate or low death rate. High infection rate early in the pandemic (Malta, Italy, Spain, Sweden) = lower infection rate and lower death rate in later waves due to natural / hybrid immunity.

Joe youre making the same errors that stupid "vaccine rate death rate correlation" paper did. If you take one week slices, you can find data anywhere to support your thesis thanks to high dynamic heterogeneity in COVID cases/deaths over time. Waves come and go. You have to dance around the primary observational data that if one is vaccinated they are ~10-20X less likely to die from COVID 19, without age/gender matching!

6 months is not that long. The spike protein enters the nucleus and inhibits DNA repair; at any level this means the longer you have those proteins lingering in your cells the more likely you will be facing all kinds of cancers in 10 -20 years. That is just one issue uncovered by one of only a handful of studies looking at what happens at the cellular level when you force production of such a cytotoxic protein. It is a huge experiment of which the unknown risk far outweigh the gains for most of the population. There are too many naïve fake scientists in the world today. People have no idea what is going to happen following mass usage of the sketchy mRNA tech; no idea and they should stop acting like we know all will be ok, we do not.

Dude, you are an FOS fake scientist. Stop yourself. Your ignorant arrogance is gnawingly offensive.