2008 MIAC TRACK

As far as your paragraph 3 goes, what did Lundin ever get (non-cc...hell I'll give you Rombough, but add in cc too) that the Badgers wanted as well? I'll answer for you - JACK SHIT! Your argument sucks from this standpoint.

Your paragraph 4 is also a joke. Don't try to compare Lundin to Schumacher. Jerry has won more than one team title at the national level. Also... do names like Bairu and Tegenkamp ring a bell? How about Solinsky?

I'll tell you straight out that Schmaedeke is a nice guy and good recruiter. So to say taht Jerry would bring in infinately more recruits is of question. Much like Paul has done, Jerry would have to do it with out a recruiting budget, sell a school that is twice as expensive, have no atheltic $, and operate under the DIII rules and philosophy. Further, Jerry would ultimately have to do it at DIII, a level that is foreign to him as a coach.

Phil is a good coach. In his DI life, he stood no chance against UNI, Wisco, or Michigan. He was Minnesota's best with Minnesota's best. Lets see how he does in the land of GPA's, small budgets, entrance standards, and 15 pass. vans instead of airplanes.

Me, I hope Mathre, Schmaedeke, Reder, Miles, etc. eat him alive!

HA HA HA!

First off, i can think of plenty of sprinters and mid d guys who were recruited outstate. and by the way, the distance guys are probably recruited by plaz. the distance guys go elsewhere for the most part because of Plaz. get your facts straight.

FYI, i never said infinitely more recruits. but think about it, if you arent good enough to go D1, would schmaed bring in the same recruits as Jerry? No. there would be some guys that would say, hell i can run for a guy who used to be an awesome D1 coach. why not? (Same goes for Lundin, he is an awesome D1 coach.) it might not get you to flat out consider the school, but i can tell you i would be a lot more persuaded by a guy who used to be a top notch d1 coach than a guy like thornton or schmaed. your argument keeps on brining up the point that he has to deal with harder admissions and no money. that is obvious. we dont expect it to be as easy as at the U (but seriously, teh U hardly gives any money to its track athletes) but that doesnt matter. its a different ballgame. a d3 runner doesnt need to be recruited, but Lundin's coaching resume speaks for itself. for you to say he wont be any better at getting athletes than any other miac coach, is erroneous in my opinion. again, his experience speaks for itself, regardless of if you think he did anything worthwhile at the U.

Talk to any of the U athletes and see if they think it is a huge loss, and a huge gain for Olaf. Because it is.

I would say a missed recruit by the U is typically because of the stories out there about Plaz going bonkers on his runners...similar to the stories of Pete Wareham at UST going crazy and being nuts...while some guys find that appealing other do not, and could potentially be the reason for UST hurting in CC. Thankfully for UST they have a damn good middle distance coach, which is the only reason their runners are staying competitive in the distance events.

I heard St. Olaf is the third best school in Northfield.

HAHAHA! Hilarious!

I heard that this year's MIAC shirts suck and that they don't even list the teams in the MIAC on them.

So what was up with the Concordia women's 4 by 4 anchor? There has to be a story behind that.

The conference was really, really strong in this meet - 5 under 49 in the 400, 9 1:55 or faster in the 800, 3 provisional marks in the 10K, 4 and almost 5 teams under 3:20 in the 4 by 4. Impressive meet all around. Erichsen should be athlete of the meet.

How about that 1500? Anyone else think Ruon had it? Heck of a race by him and Gleason.

Hell of a race by Gleason, I thought he was dead with 200m to go, but he pulled out the strength to kick with 100m left for the win.

MIAC shirts wrote:

I heard that this year's MIAC shirts suck and that they don't even list the teams in the MIAC on them.

The shirts look pretty good. I don't think listing the teams is necessary.

Lots of gutsy performances on day 2. Gleason looks done with 200m to go and wins the 1500, Sepe falls down in the 5k and gets up to finish 4th (who clipped him), Hamline Freshman gets 4th in the steeple, along with many other great performances.

Fermoyle clipped Sepe, but it was accidental. I agree though that Sepe had a terrific race to fall as far behind as he did and come back to get 4th. Gleason looked gassed for the most part in the 5k but still managed to finish 3rd. He's ridiculous. Erichsen certainly deserves athlete of the meet. He likely could have won the 10k if he needed to. Did anyone else have Boumeester finishing 2nd in the 5K? I know I picked him as my darkhorse.

PJ Theisen - 50 points

nuff said

erichsen had a hell of a meet though (and ballsy as hell) and is a close second for athlete of the meet in my book

running 3 distance events is in an entirely different league in my opinion. the most points a distance guy will score is 30. he got 28.

agreed. Erichsen's a beast.

I would like to tip my hat to gleason as well...Won the 1500, split 1:53 in the 4x8, and placed 3rd in the 5k, pretty good day considering a 4:03 prelim in there as well...

I would say it deserves same type of consideration as erichsen, because he had a 10k race (weak year), a steeple race he was favored by 30 some old secs, and a race tired gleason

Im still impressed with both of them, Distance runners get no credit for doubling like sprinters do

I would like to tip my hat to gleason as well...Won the 1500, split 1:53 in the 4x8, and placed 3rd in the 5k, pretty good day considering a 4:03 prelim in there as well...

I would say it deserves same type of consideration as erichsen, because he had a 10k race (weak year), a steeple race he was favored by 30 some old secs, and a race tired gleason

Im still impressed with both of them, Distance runners get no credit for doubling like sprinters do

Might want to look at the results again. We almost had 4 guys under 31 and 8 under 32, much faster than the last several years. Not to mention the ninth and tenth place finishers were in the top 15 in cross country this past fall. I'd say at least 1-10 this was the strongest 10K in quite a while.

I don't follow your logic on a weak year? This year is probably the deepest it has been in the past 5 or so years...top 4 were 31:10 or faster...the distance events this year were deep in general, you look at what it just took to get in the meet says a lot for the direction our conference is going! I will say about the distance events that they haven't been the fastest upfront, but I feel that is to such a short season that we have had this spring. Anyways Congrats to everyone at the meet there were a lot of good performance! A side note does anyone have a clue what was going on with Dan greeno? No real distance event this year? was he trying to focus on 1500?