2008 MIAC TRACK

rondo wrote:

ari gold... you are a douche and will always be a non-factor. disappear.

you know i only see this as a form of encouragement, right?

Mr. Gold,

First of all, from my knowledge and the writings of Tim Noakes and Jack Daniels, peak racing condition lasts for 3-4 weeks. So, while conference and nationals are in a 2 week race period that I expect Erichsen to be in peak shape for, the Carleton Relays do not lie within a 3-4 week period of nationals. If Erichsen--and others for that matter-- were peaking at Carleton, they will not be running their best at nationals.

This brings me to the comment by "on the other hand". I do not think it is bad logic to mention that Erichsen was not in peak shape for Carleton. I think it is questionable whether or not some people were peaking for Carleton--not on purpose obviously. Some schools in the MIAC have had some big name runners hit their peak during indoor or the beginning of outdoor--I can think of Hamline, Carleton, and St. Olaf off the top of my head with Bristow, Harris, and Hauck. This is not to say that every MIAC team hasn't had their fair share of mistimed peaks. On the other hand, St. John's has done a good job in recent years at timing their peak for the end of the season. I can name Smit, Erichsen, and Fermoyle to name a few. This leads me to believe that, while some people may have been at peak form for the Carleton Relays, Erichsen was not. I think his racing the last two years at cross country and outdoor track have shown he knows how to peak at the right time.

And back to you Mr. Gold, my initial response was in reference to YOUR initial statement "see last year's results, it's hard to coast in the steeple". I am sorry that I did not plainly say that Erichsen is able to outkick anyone in the MIAC in the steeple, next time I will spell it out for you. I will go on the record saying that I do not think that Erichsen could take down Ballinger or Theisen in a kick... maybe even a few others.

I know... you and your Jesse Horst look alike ass. You are a douche.

Wow, studying sucks. It is good to see letsrun forum is still going.

I am going to have to disagree with you Dr. Killebrew. I think Erichsen could out kick Pj or ballinger. The idea of a kick is at the end of a distance race. So who would out kick who needs to take into account how much was ran before hand. So yeah, Erichsen would out kick Pj in a most races.

Good luck to the Johnnies this weekend. Wish I could be there. Ohh and Ari Gold, you suck, I hope Jeremey Pivens comes to your house and smacks you in the face.

One more thing, Fermoyle is going to provo in the 10k

and one more thing, Tim Smit is my hero

forget about the 400/400H, he is in the last heat of the 110H and the first heat of the 400, which are less that 35 minutes apart. He must be hoping the women take a really long time.

Fermoyle already did provo in the 10k. Do you think he will go for it at conference? Will he and Ericksen work together for a fast time? Or just try to sit and kick and save their legs for day 2?

Erichsen wrote:

Honest effort rule? Are you serious? How in the world could Erichsen be disqualified from his other events if he runs the 10K solely for a top 4 placing and does not run for the win? Are you suggesting everyone that does not go out in the lead pack of a distance race be disqualified from their other events since they are "not running to win"?

I didn't mean someone should be DQed on the honest effort rule for running for fourth place; that is just a strategy. I was respnding to the person wh said he could "tempo" it and get 4th place, as doing a tempo run is not an honest effort.

Tim Smit in Micronesia wrote:

I would think the 10k/steeple/5k is the toughest, so the answer is none of the above. Unless you're Chris Erichsen. He is the real Jesus; I just happened to look like him.

Tim Smit DID have a beard.

Erichsen is the best. He can win the 10K, steeple, and 5K. However, many other distance runners will be running multiple races and they will also play a part in the scoring. Can Gleason run a good 5K after what could be a challenging 1500M? How about Dobuol, Fermoyle, Swanson, Gladitsch, and others. Which one of these will come back and finish top 3 @ 5K? Or is there someone else such as Gamble, Sepe, Boumeester, Haglund....

typically first years seem to have a little bit of difficulty with this outdoor meet...I am assuming a few of them are doing the 1500 and 4x8, which will be 3 races right there, the prelim is never really tough but a close 4x8 can be tough on legs for the next day...

It would appear Gleason will be running just the 1500 and 5k, not sure why he would do the 4x8 as well (hamline is only projected 3rd), I would bet on Gleason being atleast top 3 in the 5k though, purely because that guy runs with nothing to lose, everything is a second chance

Erichsen will not do the 5k if St. Johns is not in contention...best scenario for everyone else is if UST is blowing out everyone, then the race opens up considerably...

(*please note in my previous post about projected scoring...some of the relay scoring is bunk due to teams not regularly competing in a 4x8)

joe hoovestal for the win in the steeple and hammer throw (it would be javelin too if not for liability issues)

wasn't half the man Jason Stoffel was in his peak years.

Dear Ari Gold,

You are officially screwed. I am coming to your house tonight to kick you in the face and toss you in a dumpster. You and your big brother. You are a douche bag; it make me smile to think of you rotting amongst the banana peels, used ink pens, and old shit from whereever MN.

Piss Off,

Jeremey Pivens

Erichsen will get second in the 10k to Fermoyle a la John Krueger and Dan Simmons.

just saw in the star tribune that Phil Lundin (head track coach at the U of M) is coaching St Olaf next year.

Having had Phil as a coach, Everyone at St. Olaf has just gained not only one heck of a coach, but they have gained a great person to their program who cares about every single one of his athletes. This move single handily will make St. Olaf a better team because Phil is one of the most technically sound coaches there is. If there are any St. Olaf runners on here, i bode you well with having him as a coach and be prepared for quite an entertaining coach as well.

Isn't he more of a sprint coach though?

i dont know if it can get much more entertaining than Thornton.