Dr. Killebrew wrote:
at his peak erichsen doesn't have to worry about getting outkicked by anyone in the MIAC... I believe he split sub 2 for the last 800 of the 1500 last year.
that's funny, because i watched him get outkicked by brandon gleason a couple weeks ago.
in fact, come to to think of it, i saw you there too.
*to
too*
He corrected himself because he said \"to\" twice in his sentence. That being said,
800
Sames
O\'Neill
Gesell
1500
Gleason
Brandon
Ruon
Steeple
Erichsen
Lowder
Davis
5000
Gleason
Fermoyle
Gamble
(Erichsen won\'t run it because SJU won\'t have a chance of winning the meet)
10000
Fermoyle
Erichsen
Sepe
4x400
Bethel
UST
Concordia
4x800
UST
SJU
Mac
800
Gesell
Sames
O'Neill
1500
Ruon
Gladisch
Gleason
Steeple
Erichsen
Davis
Connell
5000-Sub 15 winner
Boumeester
Gamble
Fermoyle
10000
Fermoyle
Erichsen
Haglund-(best race ever at Conference)
4x8 UST as they stack it
4x4 Bethel
UST wins the meet by 50-60 points, Erichsen won't waste his time in the 5k, depending on how fast Friday heats are it may change the placings of some people Saturday, just like last year.
"depending on how fast Friday heats are it may change the placings of some people Saturday, just like last year."
whats that mean?
1) I am sure erichsen was not at his peak for the carleton relays... notice i said peak, for example, he was outkicked 2007 indoors conference, not sju's peak.
2) that 1500 at carleton was not a sit and kick race.
3) from what i have seen gleason isn't entered in the steeple chase, which was the race we were talking about people getting outkicked in.
4) i stand by my statement that no one in the miac outkick erichsen in the steeple... he did get blown away in the kick by kosgei last year @ nationals, but he is not a miac runner
Bristow lost the steeple last year not from getting outkicked, but from thinking he could close 20-30 meters on Zupan in the last two laps without any problems. First, I don't think there's a Zupan-equivalent in the field this year, and second, I don't think Erichsen will make that same sort of mistake. He'll take the race with no difficulty.
800
Sames
Gessell
Dowe
1500
Gladitsch
Brandon
Atzinger
5000
(Erichson)
Gleason
Ruon
Boumeester
10000
Erichson
Fermoyle
Sepe
Steeple
Erichson
Noack
Connell
4x400
UST
Bethel
Concordia
4x800
UST
Mac
SJU
800
Sprangers
DeGrio
Lundgren
1500
Borner
Wingert
Russ
5000
Anderson
Edlund
Campbell
10000
Brannigan
Brenden
Carlson
Steeple
Theisen
Iddins
?
4x400
UST
Gustavus
St. Cates
4x800
UST
Bethel
Gustavus
Also, considering the next two fastest times are also Johnnies, he won't care if either of them are in front of him.
Does anyone else think that the 35 minutes between the 400 and the 400H is a little quick for Ballinger to be successful in both? I know he has raced off short rest consistently this season, but that seems pretty ridiculous, considering the difficulty of both races.
It looks unfortunate for the long jumpers who are also running the 400H (see PJ Theisen) as the prelims and the long jump are basically at the same time on Friday.
Just a few thoughts...
Does anyone think that Ruon has it in him to WIN the 5k (if Ericson doesnt run?
Yes.
Weather looks pretty crappy, for saturday at least.
Dr. Killebrew wrote:
1) I am sure erichsen was not at his peak for the carleton relays... notice i said peak, for example, he was outkicked 2007 indoors conference, not sju's peak.
do you really think erichsen will be peaking for conference? or will he wait two weeks for nationals?
3) from what i have seen gleason isn't entered in the steeple chase, which was the race we were talking about people getting outkicked in.
4) i stand by my statement that no one in the miac outkick erichsen in the steeple... he did get blown away in the kick by kosgei last year @ nationals, but he is not a miac runner
actually, your original statement said you didn't think anyone in the miac can outkick erichsen. to justify that statement, you cited his kick in the 1500 at conference last year, so why would i assume you were only talking about steeplechase?
the point is, he'll probably win the steeplechase, but he is going to be relatively tired. it won't be nearly as easy for him as everyone thinks. if he does decide to run the 5k, he'll have the steeple and the 10k behind him, while gleason only has two 1500s to worry about. and since gleason did outkick him before, i think he could outkick him again - this time in the 5k.
and no i don't think ruon is experienced enough to win.
Which is the tougher double?
10K/5K
1500M/5K
steeple/5K
I would think the 10k/steeple/5k is the toughest, so the answer is none of the above. Unless you're Chris Erichsen. He is the real Jesus; I just happened to look like him.
if you score the meet based purely on entries...(which assumes no points for erichsen in the 10k and wins for him in the steeple and 5k)
the meet plays out something like this:
1)UST 178
2)St Johns 155
so its not impossible for the St johns to win...a lot of big ifs can happen but st johns could win
ari gold... you are a douche and will always be a non-factor. disappear.
i would say 10k/5k/1500 is the toughest considering it is 4 races in 2 days. and erichsen is at least 30 seconds faster than everyone in the steeple so it shouldnt take much out of him.
in response to dr killebrew, noone was peaking at carleton relays so what was your point? that he got outkicked because he wasn't 'peaked' is bad logic.