Bullet_Proof wrote:
Harambe wrote:
800k excess deaths is decent enough evidence of the risk, you'd agree?
I'm not afraid of COVID.
1.) Nope don't agree. Average age of covid death is 80+ yr olds. Not much of a risk there.
Google 'excess deaths'
Also, in the recent waves, 50-75 y/o's make up a much larger share of deaths. It turns out that being unvaccinated is bad if you don't want to die of COVID.
carmine9 wrote:
More Covid cases and deaths in 2021 than in 2020.
2/3rds of all Americans fully vaxxed in 2021 (more if we exclude kids -- who are under little threat from the virus).
None in 2020.
But the vaxx works!
Amazing
That’s not a vaccine. It's a flu shot.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FEVki4OXMBA6BI0?format=jpg&name=smallI remain happily unvaxxed.
Harambe wrote:
Also, in the recent waves, 50-75 y/o's make up a much larger share of deaths. It turns out that being unvaccinated is bad if you don't want to die of COVID.
And being vaccinated is bad if you don't want to die from anything else.
https://aaronsiri.substack.com/p/whistleblower-fda-and-cdc-ignore-3e2(Un)safe and (In)effective!
Harambe wrote:
https://covid.cdc.gov/covid-data-tracker/#rates-by-vaccine-statusjoed|rt1 wrote:
The sad truth is that when the CDC saw the data coming out of Israel, they stopped officially counting breakthrough cases back in May, so that individuals like yourself would still believe that vaccines remained largely effective. The reality is that those with a previous COVID infection are getting sick at a far lower rate than those who have only been vaccinated (in Mesa County, the most recent weekly breakthrough infection rate was 28.1 cases per 10K fully vaccinated individuals, whereas the reinfection rate was 4.2 per 10k individuals with a previously confirmed COVID infection).
here is data on breakthroughs through September. YOu may have missed this. They also have hospitalizations and death. Data is updated monthly so we expect more of an update soon (last updated Oct 15th).
As usual your posts fall victim to base-rate fallacy (high % vaxxed means that raw breakthrough %'s are hard to interpret) and/or Simpson's paradox (age explains both vax rate and susceptibility to COVID which can -invert- trends, paradoxically).
The vaccines are, of course, still very very protective against severe disease, which most of us prioritize. Only the anti-vaxxer case-obsessed fearmongers are still quivering about cases. Funny how things change :). Boosters look to be outstanding for those terrified of cases still.
Actually, it seems like the entities mandating vaccines are obsessing about cases. If breakthrough cases are not a concern, as you claim, then vaccine mandates should be unnecessary. If someone chooses to take the risk of not taking a vaccine, they should be free to do so. Again, those under 25 and those with a previous COVID infection should not be forced to get a vaccine.
ricky.rickk wrote:
I keep hearing about this stupid logic that being naturally immunized is better than the vaccine.
So how do you know you have a natural immunity to the Delta variant unless you catch it?
You could end up sick and die like one of my close college friend.
How many of you guys are going to write the exact same sentence: "You could end up sick and die like one of my close college friend.[/quote]
WE have the above sentence from ricky.rikk.
Or "You could end up sick and die like one of my close college friend." from 347893.
Identical sentence -- right down to the friend instead of friends.
What are the odds this guy poising as multiple guys actually had a close college friend die from Covid?
How about 0.01%?
Harambe wrote:
Google 'excess deaths'
Why?
These past 300 posts make it seem more like a pandemic of the susceptible to grifter conspiracies…
Obviously highly correlated with the unvaccinated.
2600 bro wrote:
These past 300 posts make it seem more like a pandemic of the susceptible to grifter conspiracies…
Obviously highly correlated with the unvaccinated.
Why don't you have a job?
2600 broscience wrote:
Harambe wrote:
Google 'excess deaths'
Why?
I didn’t know DanM had kids.
2600 bro wrote:
These past 300 posts make it seem more like a pandemic of the susceptible to grifter conspiracies…
Obviously highly correlated with the unvaccinated.
I'm unvaccinated Predict my demise?
2600 bro wrote:
2600 broscience wrote:
Why?
I didn’t know DanM had kids.
Neither did I. But he's as old as you ain't he? So it's possible.
I don’t know a single unvaccinated person who has the LRC trifecta:
Sub 14 5k
250k+/yr
9/10+ wife
Amazing the QoL the unvax are willing to give up.
2600 broscience wrote:
2600 bro wrote:
I didn’t know DanM had kids.
Neither did I. But he's as old as you ain't he? So it's possible.
Absent fathers sure have dire consequences…
439 wrote:
2600 bro wrote:
These past 300 posts make it seem more like a pandemic of the susceptible to grifter conspiracies…
Obviously highly correlated with the unvaccinated.
Why don't you have a job?
I followed the advice in the “Down goes the Dow” thread and now I’m too wealthy to work.
2600 bro wrote:
2600 broscience wrote:
Why?
I didn’t know DanM had kids.
Nope. At a time like this, I'm happy that never happened. Imagine the authorities pushing a vaccine onto your kid that you don't want ? Incomprehensible.
2600 broscience wrote:
2600 bro wrote:
These past 300 posts make it seem more like a pandemic of the susceptible to grifter conspiracies…
Obviously highly correlated with the unvaccinated.
I'm unvaccinated Predict my demise?
If you are under 25, you will likely be just fine. If you are over 50, you are kind of a fool.
Just chatting with people lately, I can tell people are coming around and realizing what a sham this all is. They are getting fed up, their children are being forced to wear masks everywhere. Some places say the parents and kids should be masked up inside the house too. No kidding. Basic rights and freedoms being stripped in a lot of places. The longer this goes on, the more people who will be fed up and realize the truth or rebel. The sheep who like to do what they're told by self interested authoritarian leaders can do as they please, but don't try to get everyone to conform to oppressive measures for big pharmas self serving agenda from a virus that was purposely created and released from a lab in a communist country.
joed|rt1 wrote:
2600 broscience wrote:
I'm unvaccinated Predict my demise?
If you are under 25, you will likely be just fine. If you are over 50, you are kind of a fool.
Agreed.
But I believe under 25 should still get vaccinated to prevent spillover into the older age group, variant evolution, and overall disease prevalence.