"Pandemic of the unvaccinated" CONFIRMED

The institution feared they were losing control so their tactics became to assert the most control possible. Who are their protégé? Their protégé are the most successful authoritarian regime in the world, the communist Chinese governemt. The Chinese are uber successful when it comes to economics and control. The others are now trying to emulate them. Say goodbye to human rights. WAKE UP YOU SHEEP

Harambe wrote:

The pandemic of the unvaccinated continues. The denier-fearmongers spin more elaborate conspiracies and move goalposts ever further back, filled with rage that people aren't dying of COVID. Chilling.

It's not the pandemic of the unvaccinated. Quit being so intellectually dishonest & pull your head out.

carmine9 wrote:

Why are these types of pro vaxx propaganda okay but we cannot list all the healthy young people who have died shortly after being jabbed?

Or an older healthy person who criticizes the vaccine hesitant:

Remember when the pro-Covid team was all like, "Masks don't work! There's no RCT to prove it!"? And today they're all, "You can keep your filthy RCTs involving tens of thousands of people! I know this one guy who died of the vaccine!"

It's sad. They've gone from demanding that measures to fight the pandemic meet the highest standard of scientific rigor, to dismissing any study they don't like as a conspiracy involving every national government, pharmaceutical company and media outlet.

it all makes cents wrote:

Here are 120+ studies that suggest that natural immunity is better than or equal to vaccine immunity...

Uh huh.

...Were it not for the fact that three-quarters of a million Americans have DIED in the process of *acquiring* that natural immunity. Roughly similar numbers of Americans have been infected and vaccinated; even using the numbers presented by the most zealous anti-vaxxers, the number of deaths-by-vaccine is at least *two orders of magnitude* lower than the number of deaths of the unvaccinated.

Y'all... wrote:

it all makes cents wrote:

Here are 120+ studies that suggest that natural immunity is better than or equal to vaccine immunity...

Uh huh.

...Were it not for the fact that three-quarters of a million Americans have DIED in the process of *acquiring* that natural immunity. Roughly similar numbers of Americans have been infected and vaccinated; even using the numbers presented by the most zealous anti-vaxxers, the number of deaths-by-vaccine is at least *two orders of magnitude* lower than the number of deaths of the unvaccinated.

Did you know that on December 31, 2020, 99.86% of all Americans who should have been alive on that day were, in fact, alive ?

Y'all... wrote:

it all makes cents wrote:

Here are 120+ studies that suggest that natural immunity is better than or equal to vaccine immunity...

Uh huh.

...Were it not for the fact that three-quarters of a million Americans have DIED in the process of *acquiring* that natural immunity. Roughly similar numbers of Americans have been infected and vaccinated; even using the numbers presented by the most zealous anti-vaxxers, the number of deaths-by-vaccine is at least *two orders of magnitude* lower than the number of deaths of the unvaccinated.

Most of them died before the vaccine roll out.

Stop with the misinformation.

DanM wrote:

Y'all... wrote:

Uh huh.

...Were it not for the fact that three-quarters of a million Americans have DIED in the process of *acquiring* that natural immunity. Roughly similar numbers of Americans have been infected and vaccinated; even using the numbers presented by the most zealous anti-vaxxers, the number of deaths-by-vaccine is at least *two orders of magnitude* lower than the number of deaths of the unvaccinated.

Did you know that on December 31, 2020, 99.86% of all Americans who should have been alive on that day were, in fact, alive ?

Did YOU know that 0.14% of all Americans is more than 460,000? More than the population of Minneapolis or Tampa? Of Tulsa or Cleveland? Of Wichita or New Orleans?

And did you know that in the *47 weeks* since then, hundreds of thousands more have died? And that deaths have been above what would have been expected in EVERY ONE of those weeks?

2600 broscience wrote:

439 wrote:

+1

I think Harambe aka Andrew Coggan is just trolling. He thinks it's funny to goad people like this.

There is this thing called demographic cycles, it has major influence on…demographics! Old baby boomer generation! More people die.

I guess my question is in excess of what? Is it in Excess of the death rate ten years ago? But aren’t there more people than there were, on top of that, aren’t the people who are here much older than they were? Add to that the continued contamination of the environment combined with the commercially viable poision in our food and you get unhealthy fat people, even some healthy, dieing from a highly resistant flu. How do you figure “excess”? Are you merely comparing death figures across the years? Harambe if you were half as smart as you thought you were you wouldn’t post half as frequently as you do. Not to mention, surely, someone of your caliber genius has better things to do. Imagine if all the time spent on let’s run was spent doing something productive, you might just be as smart as you clearly very desperately want to be, or at least perceived as such. Whatever your preoccupations with your ego are I’m sure I do not care, but do know you come across as a jerk. While such an approach is commonplace here in the cesspool, you should realize you are not endearing yourself to anyone, and if your real goal truly is to persuade people to take this flu more seriously you are failing miserably.

2600 broscience wrote:

Y'all... wrote:

...Were it not for the fact that three-quarters of a million Americans have DIED in the process of *acquiring* that natural immunity. Roughly similar numbers of Americans have been infected and vaccinated; even using the numbers presented by the most zealous anti-vaxxers, the number of deaths-by-vaccine is at least *two orders of magnitude* lower than the number of deaths of the unvaccinated.

Most of them died before the vaccine roll out.

Stop with the misinformation.

To be clear, I wasn't suggesting *any* particular timing: just that 750,000 Americans who might have developed natural immunity to Covid-19 died from from the disease before that natural immunity could help them. Hundreds of thousands died before vaccines were widely available--undisputed--and hundreds of thousands have died since.

Not arguing (on this point), I just don't see any misinformation there.

Y'all... wrote:

2600 broscience wrote:

Most of them died before the vaccine roll out.

Stop with the misinformation.

To be clear, I wasn't suggesting *any* particular timing: just that 750,000 Americans who might have developed natural immunity to Covid-19 died from from the disease before that natural immunity could help them. Hundreds of thousands died before vaccines were widely available--undisputed--and hundreds of thousands have died since.

Not arguing (on this point), I just don't see any misinformation there.

The virus didn't 'jump' from bats to humans. It was part of a science experiment. The death tolls were already projected in 2016. This whole thing was planned.

Can you address these issues? Or will you deny them and call it conspiracy theory?

2600 broscience wrote:

Y'all... wrote:

To be clear, I wasn't suggesting *any* particular timing: just that 750,000 Americans who might have developed natural immunity to Covid-19 died from from the disease before that natural immunity could help them. Hundreds of thousands died before vaccines were widely available--undisputed--and hundreds of thousands have died since.

Not arguing (on this point), I just don't see any misinformation there.

The virus didn't 'jump' from bats to humans. It was part of a science experiment. The death tolls were already projected in 2016. This whole thing was planned.

Can you address these issues? Or will you deny them and call it conspiracy theory?

You are speaking to a heavily sedated cult. Do not expect reality but, rather, twisted facts. How anyone can say this is a problem w the unvaccinated at this point, as cases rise w vaccines rising, it’s really quite clear and simple.

Just compare California to Florida. 2 large States heavily populated. Heck, Alaska is having 10x the cases of Florida.

Y'all... wrote:

it all makes cents wrote:

Here are 120+ studies that suggest that natural immunity is better than or equal to vaccine immunity...

Uh huh.

...Were it not for the fact that three-quarters of a million Americans have DIED in the process of *acquiring* that natural immunity. Roughly similar numbers of Americans have been infected and vaccinated; even using the numbers presented by the most zealous anti-vaxxers, the number of deaths-by-vaccine is at least *two orders of magnitude* lower than the number of deaths of the unvaccinated.

How to miss the point.

The over 100 million Americans who have already had covid now have far better immunity than the vaxxed who have not had it and so should avoid these Big Pharma drugs.

Conservative Right-Winger wrote:

Harambe wrote:

The pandemic of the unvaccinated continues. The denier-fearmongers spin more elaborate conspiracies and move goalposts ever further back, filled with rage that people aren't dying of COVID. Chilling.

It's not the pandemic of the unvaccinated. Quit being so intellectually dishonest & pull your head out.

The large majority of those dying and hospitalized since the start of the Delta wave are unvaxxed. Without the unvaxxed, COVID would be close to flu-levels of burden. It is most definitely a pandemic of the unvaccinated.

You can very easily look up how excess deaths are calculated by the CDC and other sources. It's obviously not just comparing raw death counts across years.

Take a look at this graph and tell me if this half-baked idea "gee, maybe the experts haven't correct for the most obvious counfounders!" makes sense:

2600 broscience wrote:

439 wrote:

+1

I think Harambe aka Andrew Coggan is just trolling. He thinks it's funny to goad people like this.

No, I'm just being right as usual. Immunity after infection is much more variable than the vaccine and can be boosted to superior levels with just one dose! Those two facts (that you don't dispute) make vaccination after infection a clear choice for ending the pandemic.

You all will continue to whine or move onto another drama-of-the-day to rage about. I look forward to embarrassing you there as well :)