Colorado won when it counted at Nationals so Wisconsin can have the title of "deepest," but who cares.
Colorado won when it counted at Nationals so Wisconsin can have the title of "deepest," but who cares.
words wrote:
OR in the late 1970s, early 1980s...McChesney 13;14, Chapa 13;19, Hill 13;19, Salazar 13;21, Clary 13;25, Ken Martin 13;37...
Wasn't Salazar on drugs then ?
It all depends on how you define "deepest".
If it is how many guys run under 14:00 in and out then Wisco may be best ever by the end of this year, or they may be the best now.
They had six in one race, and then add in Withrow and Eagon, who could probably do it. But they will be redshirting so they don't really count.
Their have been teams with MORE than one sub-28:00 guy on it. More than one WR holder too (WSU in '78 had Kimobwa and Rono at 27:30 and 27:22). They may have had other super fast guys too I can't remember.
If you score "depth" like a cross race, then teams like WSU - '78, UTEP - '81, and Oregon - '78 always come out on top because they have the 13:12 Nyambui's and 13:20/27:40 guys. The fact that the superdeep teams from Wisco or Stanford recently MIGHT beat their 4th and fifth man easily doesn't matter.
In a dual meet a team scoring 1-2-3 is mathematically unbeatable.
I have more respect for a school who gets 18-19 year olds and develops them for 4-5 years and they run 13:30-13:40 and actually makes them go to class and they graduate.
Why? Because that is much harder than what went on with UTEP and WSU way back in the day. That situation is more like what goes on with football or basketball. If you throw enough money and privileges at some 25 year old African WR holders they will come and run for you. Getting a 3:51y/13:12 runner to dominate the NCAA ain't too hard.
Boostis wrote:
If you are willing to count indoor and outdoor times together, here is Stanford's top 15 5K runners from last season. It doesn't even count Don Sage, who didn't run the 5K last year.
1. Louis Luchini, 13:25.19
2. Ian Dobson, 13:40.91
3. Ryan Hall, 13:45.00
4. Chris Emme, 13:53.19
5. Jacob Gomez, 13:56.77
6. Nef Aria, 13:56.99
7. Seth Hejny, 13:57.22
8. Peter Meindl, 13:58.49
9. Grant Robison, 14:06.63 (p.r. of 13:40.30)
10. David Vidal, 14:10.03
11. Neil Davis, 14:10.25
12. Isaac Hawkins, 14:10.28
13. Jonathan Pierce, 14:13.72
14. Andrew Hill, 14:15.84
15. Brett Gotcher, 14:15.63
Thank you bootis. and that stanford team won in dominating fashion. Wisco should have as well instead the blew it.
The Montreal Canadiens of the late 50's and 70's, the Green Bay Packers of the mid-late 60's, the Boston Celtics circa 1965 and the NY Yankess since Steinbrenner took them over (excluding the last 3 years).
OOOps...wrong sports, sorry.
I have a difference between Bairu and the UTEP boys, Bairu is 21 while most of the UTEP guys were in their late 20s.
I'm thinking that they're going to land McNamara too.
Boostis wrote:If you are willing to count indoor and outdoor times together, here is Stanford's top 15 5K runners from last season. It doesn't even count Don Sage, who didn't run the 5K last year.
1. Louis Luchini, 13:25.19
2. Ian Dobson, 13:40.91
3. Ryan Hall, 13:45.00
4. Chris Emme, 13:53.19
5. Jacob Gomez, 13:56.77
6. Nef Aria, 13:56.99
7. Seth Hejny, 13:57.22
8. Peter Meindl, 13:58.49
9. Grant Robison, 14:06.63 (p.r. of 13:40.30)
10. David Vidal, 14:10.03
11. Neil Davis, 14:10.25
12. Isaac Hawkins, 14:10.28
13. Jonathan Pierce, 14:13.72
14. Andrew Hill, 14:15.84
15. Brett Gotcher, 14:15.63
And this simply marvelous group nailed how many NCAA titles to the wall?
They are just jogging through their meets keeping in shape for cross in the fall.