Also, can someone tell me why you think LAX is a contender -- is someone missing from this list posted earlier?
UW -LAX
Dedering, Josh 30:38
Peterson, Jacob 14:59
Rohlman, Andrew 15:03
Laudia-Banta, Eric 31:50
Simones, Sam 14:54
Barbeln, Alez 32:00
Linner, Tom 15:17
Yes, multi-time all-american David Stillin, who was 3rd in the 5k outdoors this year
Besides missing Stilin, those times don't really reflect the quality of what LAX has. Peterson ran 3:49 and Linner ran 3:52 in the 1500. They'll be better cross country runners than their 5K marks give them credit for. LAX also has another 3:49 1500 guy (Jerry Kerska), and his brother Garrett was the #5 man on their cross team last fall (not sure what was going on with him in track, never performed too well). They also have Nate Routhier who was like 50th at CC nationals last fall.
Yeah that list of returners is not very accurate, LAX returns something like this:
Stilin: 14:20
Dedering: 30:38 and 30th in cross
Peterson: 3:49
Jerry Kerska: 3:49
Linner: 3:52
Rohlman: 9:07 steeple
Routhier: 42nd in cross
Garrett Kerska: 5th man from nationals last year
Simones: 14:54 and on cross national team
Slaustance wrote:
pizzaburger wrote:I think it's going to be between North Central and La Crosse. Nationals is kind of like the SAT. It doesn't test how smart (fast) you are, but rather how well you take the test (run the race). Nationals, with really good competition and a larger crowd than the rest of most teams' meets combined, is a completely different beast than every other race.
Traditionally, there are some teams that really step up (NCC, Bates last year), and there are some teams that choke (WashU).
When does WashU choke? I can't think of any time recently that they've done significantly worse than expected. They were what, 5th last year?
And why do you say Sparks isn't running? He just ran at nationals, so unless you know something I don't he should be back.
Wash U kids, get out of this thread.
pizzaburger wrote:
I think it's going to be between North Central and La Crosse. Nationals is kind of like the SAT. It doesn't test how smart (fast) you are, but rather how well you take the test (run the race). Nationals, with really good competition and a larger crowd than the rest of most teams' meets combined, is a completely different beast than every other race.
If you really believe that, you're a fvcking idiot.
WashU wrote:
Wash U kids, get out of this thread.
A. I'm not a WashU kid
B. F*ck off, the guy was spouting BS.
Slaustance wrote:
A. I'm not a WashU kid
B. F*ck off, the guy was spouting BS.
You forgot to add, "My high school can kick your high school's ass!"
Half of the stuff on this site is BS that's run by trollz. I still don't understand how a good 1500 converts to XC. An 8k is over 5 times the distance. Where is the corellation?
H8terade wrote:
Half of the stuff on this site is BS that's run by trollz. I still don't understand how a good 1500 converts to XC. An 8k is over 5 times the distance. Where is the corellation?
^very true. For example- if a guy whose really only run a good 1500, similar to some of the LAX guys, is considered someone relevant for cross, what about a guy like Sullivan, whose run pretty damn fast in the 1500? If I recall, he's an OK cross runner having run 2510s, but he has yet to make a national meet- and if hes one of the best 1500 guys, that doesn't bode well for the other "only" 1500 guys like kerska and peterson
Traditionally, this is true. You don't see most of the Division I 1500 guys being competitive in cross at all. That said, DIII is diluted enough that a top 1500m guy can be a #3, 4, 5 guy on a lot of still very good teams. You couldn't build a team around a mid-distance athlete, but they can certainly contribute. Especially on faster, flatter courses that are traditionally run in the midwest.
-RM
Lyndon LaRouche wrote:
You forgot to add, "My high school can kick your high school's ass!"
Well I didn't want to represent their school because I'm really not a WashU kid, just an ex-D3 guy from St. Louis. I do think people should call out the crap that gets thrown around here though -- every year someone will claim a guy is injured or transferring when he isn't.
Slaustance wrote:
Lyndon LaRouche wrote:You forgot to add, "My high school can kick your high school's ass!"
Well I didn't want to represent their school because I'm really not a WashU kid, just an ex-D3 guy from St. Louis. I do think people should call out the crap that gets thrown around here though -- every year someone will claim a guy is injured or transferring when he isn't.
This poster is indirectly saying that he's Kevin Sparks and he is injured and/or transferring. I have deciphered his post
I'm surprised Bobby Over isn't getting thrown into the mix. He finished 2nd last year, 2 time region champ. He seems to show up at the big races.
I think that NCC and Lax gotta get the tip given they've earned that respect. NCC's guys especially showed up at outdoor track and they are the reigning champs. That said the margin of victory was not low and I believe that this year, you have to tip your hat to Haverford and WashU as well. It'll be a 4 team race for #1, with the title ultimately coming down to the 5th guy. WashU has shown in track that the depth they've so desperately been missing is finally there, and Haverford has always been deep. And despite losing Schillit, they will be a force to reckon with. I think any one of these teams can get a title on right day. It doesn't matter about the regular season, what matters is that the champion runs their best on that particular day.
Hahaha well played; I'll agree I don't think Pless will make Bates' top 7.
I really think Coach Diemer and calvin are going to do better than that. I wouldnt be surprised to see top 6. Any word on incoming freshman who will be running divison 3?
Central's Horton is transfering.
somebody wrote:
Hahaha well played; I'll agree I don't think Pless will make Bates' top 7.
I heard he is planning on dropping 200 pounds and pounding the pavement this summer, then returning to Bates to compete in the fall. Don't count him out. I learned from xfit-guy-the-real-1 (or whatever is name is) that explosive, thrower type strength is absolutely critical for success in the longer distances.
Skip wrote:
Central's Horton is transfering.
It's posts like this that drag down the thread.
I'm a current XC runner on a top-10 team. No one is transferring anywhere.