BIGNOOB wrote:
The average Chinese dude is small and weak! They stand no chance in 1 on 1 combat.
We're talking about a difference of a couple of inches on average. There are still greater numbers of tall people in China.
Roughly 50 million over 5"10' in the US v. 60 million in China.
I understand why people think China would win this kind of war simply because of their huge numbers but after spending the last six months in China I'm not so convinced.
The people here are not very tough and avoid any kind of physical activity like its the plague (people literally will wait on line for an escalator instead of climbing one flight of stairs). The Chinese people who do go the gym and workout are not particularly strong. I stand at a very puny 5'8 155 pounds and I can lift more than 99 % of the people who workout at my gym. Also, the vast majority of Chinese men are huge smokers so in a long drawn out hand to hand combat they would tire out very quickly.
But all in all I think the top 5 would be...
1) USA (big population, a lot of big and athletic people)
2)China (despite my rant above they do have a shit load of people and from what I've seen they are probably tougher than the Indians)
3)Brazil (pretty large and healthy athletic population)
4) Russia (decently large population and the people are tough as well as physically big)
5) Nigeria ( population of 170 million, tough people, and from the few Nigerians I have met they seem to be pretty naturally athletic)
ditka
The U.S. would win without casualties.
We have Chuck Norris.
End of thread.
Russian, have you seen those crazy Russian grandmothers?
Dunno who would win but Israel would be the first to lose
guns are for puzzies wrote:
That's why they get so scared when the gvt threatens their gun rights. Their fat azzes wouldn't be able to defend themselves otherwise.
I'm from the U.S., and I find myself agreeing with this. By and large, those that eat, sleep, and shower with their beloved guns are fat, lazy slobs - not unlike the ilk you see riding scooter carts around walmart.
If you knew much about US history, you'd discover that Americans are the most deer-eyed, obedient bunch going. When their own government and corporations take advantage of them, Americans go back to watching 'reality' television on their aching sphincters.
There are many, many countries where people actually stand up for things (e.g. Greece, France, Egypt) that would crush Americans.
George Carlin on the American Dream
You ever think of Canadians? They hunt all year long in the cold? You think any America. Could survive -87 degrees Celsius? Thy beat USA once. Plus they score higher on academic tests. Canada wins by staying back and making other countries come to them in cold,wet,mountainous environments.
unfortunately the USA is the fattest country on earth ...obesity would kill them before anything else..about 60% of the population is overweight or obese
I feel like America's biggest weakness is a generally sedentary, obese, wealthy population who desire comfort and convenience above all else. This sort of culture does not breed warriors. I'm a fairly big, strong, athletic guy (was a sprinter in college, not a distance guy)....but in all honesty, I live a pretty comfortable life, and I'm not sure how I'd fair in a worldwide, drawn-out battle to the death. I like to think I'd be tough if I had to be, but I've never been faced with this sort of hardship and I honestly don't know how I'd handle it.
Second, our collective arrogance is a huge disadvantage. Underestimating our enemies would likely bite us in the rear big time.
Furthermore, I question our ability to operate cooperatively on a large scale. In our society we have a very individualistic mindset. I'm sure we'd come together a little better when faced with war, but a country like China already has a 1-up on us in that regard.
Our biggest advantage would be our wealth. We have a ton of food and clean water. And from a survival standpoint, obesity could actually be a good thing. Plenty of fat to burn for fuel when food needs to be rationed.
Our size and strength would also be an advantage. Despite not being all that experienced in hand-to-hand combat, I'm 6'2"/200 lbs, I can bench press more than my own body weight easily, squat 300+ pounds, and can run 100m in under 12 seconds. Not exactly a specimen of greatness, but hand-to-hand vs. a 5'6"/150lb Chinese man? I like my chances. Although I'm just not sure I've got it in me to beat a man to death with my bare hands.
Anyways, my hunch is that China's numbers would just be too great to outmatch. I also think that, man-to-man, Russia would be a tough match for us. They have a smaller population, but Russians are big and I'd wager they are generally a much tougher nation.
i kinda like running wrote:
Not exactly a specimen of greatness, but hand-to-hand vs. a 5'6"/150lb Chinese man? I like my chances. Although I'm just not sure I've got it in me to beat a man to death with my bare hands.
Oh, you've got it in you, my friend. You do... trust me. In the heat of battle, even the most civilized man becomes a savage animal. I've got stories and pictures that prove it, but I don't show those to many people.
Canuck_dropping_the_puck wrote:
Ummm....remember when Canada destroyed the White House. I think that adds a delusion of how the US could stand a chance against much stronger countries with much higher populations.
China by far.
You can't say it was Canada as we didn't become a country until 50 years later. You have to say it was Britain that destroyed the President's palace.
I love how stupid topics like this get a lot of serious, pseudo-serious contemplation and little if any outright criticism. However, if you chose any thread where it appears like someone is asking a sincere, practical question and you will always find at least one, if not many, people making fun of the original poster.
too bad wrote:
unfortunately the USA is the fattest country on earth ...obesity would kill them before anything else..about 60% of the population is overweight or obese
Oddly, and perhaps luckily, in a time of world deprivation and strife, three months in, having started obese will be an advantage. Fatties take longer to starve and die, and can fight for food and survival against the once fit who are now emaciated. Also, don't for a moment underrated the self-preservation interest of those who overeat. They may over fight, over kill and over plan in a time of war to survive. If they over fed themselves in peace time, they will overreact in war too. Look out thin countries.
USA is fat but their biggest competition in this category, China, is not a healthy nation by any regard. I spent three years over there teaching and I was actually shocked by how unhealthy the people lived. They smoke like chimneys and love fast food just as much as Americans do, if not more. The avoidance of physical activity in northern China especially is actually kind of impressive, they will go to fantastic lengths to avoid going up any kind of stairs. I also saw only a handful of other runners while in China and a did quite a bit of running while I was there. I assure you that you are severely overestimating the fitness of the Chinese people and underestimating the fitness of Americans.
That being said I think the Russians are being underrated in this little discussion. They are a sportive, tough, and physically large people who can handle quite a bit of pain as we have seen in the last 100 years of their country's history. Unfortunately they simply don't have the population to compete with China or the United States when it comes to this.
Scotland easily - If we were allowed to do it gradually. 5 million Scottish versus 5 million from any other country in a square go especially if we are fueled up with tennent's lager. 1 fight a day would mean that it would take us 62 days to batter the whole of america. Susan Boyle could take at least 10 americans per hour.
If we are sticking to World War tradition, the U.S. would ally with several other democratic nations.
I foresee the following teams:
US - European Union - Canada - Australia - Japan (Japan gets let in because of strategic global positioning)
China
India
Africa, Middle East, and South/Central America team up.
Now it's anyone's fight.
Surprised nobody has mentioned Japan?...Isolated, culture, martial arts, industrious...I think people would be too busy attacking China...plus Japan already occupied China within the last century, they know whats up.
ditka